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Old 08-06-2014, 08:30 PM
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Well, my doctor released me to return to work, on light duty, starting the 18th. Interpreting that to mean "you can do stuff, just take it easy", I shot the first 10 rounds through my 9mm Shield today. We'll not do that again for a while. As Forest Gump would say,"stupid is as stupid does", and I was stupid. Suffice it to say, I can feel it, not bad, but I can feel it.

All that aside, I have now shot my Shield, and I like it a lot. Minimal recoil, very accurate for its' size, carries easily and conceals very well in a Sticky holster, and not a bad trigger considering what I've read here and elsewhere. I doubt I'll change anything other than some sights that cater to my poor vision a little better. I'm now looking forward to the next time I go to shoot (maybe after another month or so of healing).
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Get well, get well soon, we want you to get well!!!

Is it a "safety-less" shield? C'mom, let's stir the mud up while you recover.
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The Shield is the best of the small single stack carries to me....
Good stuff, glad you got to shoot it.
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Is it a "safety-less" shield? C'mom, let's stir the mud up while you recover.
Mine has the safety, but it was previously owned, and at $314, I wasn't going to let it get away. They've been few and far between around here, with prices floating around $400 +/-. The nice thing about it, I can simply leave it disengaged if I so desire. Since I carry it in a Sticky holster, I don't have to worry getting something caught in the trigger, I simply return the gun to the holster, and insert the whole affair back in my waistband. I'm covered either way.

Now, sling that mud.

One other positive... the Shield fired my reloads and my chosen defense ammo, wonderfully. Win, win all around.
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Gunny, glad you got to shoot your new shield. Hope you keep on getting back to 100 percent.
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Old 08-06-2014, 11:41 PM
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:28 AM
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That skateboard tape, Gunny?
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Nicely done. That's how I plan on doing too. Just ordered a couple of sheets of skateboard tape. Looks like just one patch each section and no relief cuts necessary, right?
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That skateboard tape, Gunny?
Actually, this is a modified Talon grip. I liked the full coverage, but the grip actually snagged on the holster like velcro, making a draw all but impossible. By removing all but the material on the front and rear strap area, the problem was solved. In hindsight, had I known this would be a problem, I would have used the Talon rubber grip instead, and still may.

M&Pmeister, there are relief cuts down the back in order to mate to the curve of the back strap area. I'll try and post a pic of it.

Here you go.

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Old 08-07-2014, 01:13 PM
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Thanks gunny. That helps a lot. I've got a whole sheet of it, so I can afford a few screw ups before getting it right.

I know what you mean about snagging on holster and clothing. I'll try just the front first, as that is usually where I need the most grip on a subcompact.
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Quadruple bypass. Split me like a grape and took about a 1/4 mile of spare vein out of my leg to redo the plumbing. Not exactly what I had planned for the Summer.

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Hope ya heal fast and well !

Will my little Shield conceal easier if I actually have my appendix removed?
I was out to the range again this week and my Shield seems to get smoother all the time. Still a bit cranky on the slide racking, but either it's loosening up just a tad or I'm just getting used to the little bugger....

Found two boxes of 124g HSTs for $21 a box this morning.... life is GOOD...
I'm up in the nawth woods currently, and ya never know when an enraged porcupine might attack out of nowheres ..... I just hope I can click the TS down before it's too late!

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Quadruple bypass. Split me like a grape and took about a 1/4 mile of spare vein out of my leg to redo the plumbing. Not exactly what I had planned for the Summer.

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Had that done a couple years ago. They told me the sooner I started walking the sooner I would be out shooting again. I walked that afternoon, they chased me down the hall yelling that I had to have all the equipment off first. In on Monday afternoon home Friday making dinner, nothing to it. Medicine is amazing these days. My dad was one of the first ever in this country years ago and he recuperated for 6 months before he was allowed to walk stairs.

Sorry about the hijack, just had to share. Back on track, I like your work on the grips. I don't have a Shield yet...
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Martya, No problem at all. They can certainly do wonders. I had surgery on June 25th, released on July 4th, released to return to work on the 18th of August (albeit on light duty). Hopefully by the end of the year I'll be 100%. Have to do plenty of walking, and maybe some snow shoeing when the white stuff drops.

Now go get yourself a Shield.
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Quadruple bypass!!! You should have listened to the DOC!

Hope you are back to full speed soon.

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I feel you pain, I had neck surgery and my Dr. Told me the only thing I can do is sleep and walk. Can't even reload! Hope that will change in two weeks when I see him again.

Glad you like your shield. I shoot mine as often as a I can. Hope you get back to 100% soon
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Gunny or anyone-

Would you share your thoughts, if any, on the Sticky holster vs. the Nemesis?

Best wishes in your recovery.

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Would you share your thoughts on the Sticky holster vs. the Nemesis?

Best wishes in your recovery.
Thanks, recovery seems to be going well, just not as fast as I would like. Patience, patience, patience.

I've never used the Nemesis, so my opinion on that one is of little use. The Sticky and Remora holsters, being very similar, work well depending on how you want to use them. If you're looking for pocket carry, either of these work well, especially if you're carrying one of the small .380's. For the Shield, carried in larger pockets or cargo pockets, they are equally up to the task. They both stay put once in place. Remora offers one option that Sticky doesn't, a tuckable model. I've tried one of those before, it works, but in my opinion, requires a lot more procedure to get it in place than I found convenient. If you're thinking of getting something like this, Remora has a deal going right now, buy a holster and get a free Remora mag pouch.

I just got back from a two day road trip to pick up my Granddaughter in New Mexico. The Shield road in my waistband at about the 3:30 position for two days straight, and was barely noticeable, but always available.

Something else you might look at, if you prefer leather, check out Talon holsters. Good looking holsters for just about every situation, including wallet and cargo pant holsters. Prices seem fair. Talon Training Group

I don't work for or represent any of these guys, so all you're getting is my opinion, based on my personal use or research.

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Thanks for your informative, detailed response, Gunny.

I have been considering the Sticky, but also the DeSantis Pocket-tuk for the Shield, because it serves similar use, both IWB and pocket.

I really prefer pocket carry, so first will see how I feel with my new Shield (waiting period) with a Nemesis, and a UM #4 pocket holster, before spending more on either the Pocket-Tuk or Sticky holster.

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I have been considering the Sticky, but also the DeSantis Pocket-tuk for the Shield, because it serves similar use, both IWB and pocket.

I have the pocket-tuk and it works well as a pocket holster. I'm not as happy with it for IWB. Seems to print more than I'd like and it's tricky to get clipped on.
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[QUOTE=gunny4053;138042122] The nice thing about it, I can simply leave it disengaged if I so desire.

I feel if it has a safety you have to use it. Always.
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I can understand the sentiment but when one is left-handed it is an annoyance, so if the gun is overall safe with thumb safety OFF, that's how it will be for me and other southpaws. I really hate having to reach over to activate/deactivate it. Sigs s*ck, so do 1911's, if you are a left-handed shooter.

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Here's to speedy recovery. So u can get back shooting. You know the fun little things in life.
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The nice thing about it, I can simply leave it disengaged if I so desire.

I feel if it has a safety you have to use it. Always.
If it were a 1911, oh yes, on the Shield, no, not really. The only real difference between the Shield with the safety and the one without, the one without has a plastic block filling the void where the safety lever would normally reside. The trigger safety and striker block are still in place on both models. With the safety disengaged, there's no difference between the two models and a Glock. Keep the "booger hook" off the "bang switch" until it's time to engage a target and you'll be fine.

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Welcome to the forum, and congrats on the Shield. Great little firearms. Shoot it a bunch before you change your trigger, as they do smooth out on their own. You might be surprised, and the money you save will help feed its' ammo needs for a while.

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I can understand the sentiment but when one is left-handed it is an annoyance, so if the gun is overall safe with thumb safety OFF, that's how it will be for me and other southpaws. I really hate having to reach over to activate/deactivate it. Sigs s*ck, so do 1911's, if you are a left-handed shooter.
I too am left-handed, but I look at the manual safety a bit differently. On a CCW like the Shield, which I typically carry in an IWB holster tucked tight against my side. The safety on the left side is actually where I want it. Because of the trigger safety, firing pin block and the longish trigger pull, the Shield is inherently safe without the manual safety. The only time I engage the safety is normal handling & storage when it's outside the holster and especially when reholstering the firearm, when the greatest danger occurs for an Accidental Discharge. Once it is holstered, I click off the manual safety, which for a leftie is on the exposed side of the firearm and easily accessed.

In fact, I can discretely check the manual safety by clicking it ON/OFF through the shirt I'm wearing just by feel. I instinictly do this when my situational awareness alerts me of potential danger... just to make sure it is absolutely ready to go, if necessary.

Still the Shield's manual safety is well-recessed and unlikely to be bumped out of position. Same applies to the Bodyguard. The Compact and FS, OTOH, have large protruding manual safeties that are too easy to flick ON/OFF. Thankfully, they are full ambi, so I can easily thumb sweep regardless of which hand is holding the weapon.
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M&Pmeister-

I really hate safeties or decockers that are solely on the left side of the firearm.
Would've preferred one without the safety for that reason, despite their inherent benefit mentioned by you and that one can chamber round and clear weapon with it ON.

In any event, do you use your left hand to manipulate the safety on/off and if so- what finger(s)?

Mine is still in 'jail'.

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Gunny...When did you have your surgery? I had open heart on July 2nd but haven't been back out to the range. I had an aortic aneurysm repair and aortic valve replacement. It took me a good month to shake the anesthesia. Felt groggy-foggy. The biggest thing was no appetite. Literally had to force food down. Most food had an extreme salty taste.
I'm going to wait for a little while longer before I hit the range. Main reason is the road out there. Have to drive a couple of miles down a rutty-bumpy-washboard dirt road, a lot of bouncy-bouncy. That's not good for a healing sternum!
Glad you like your Shield. I love to target shoot and do reloading. Take her easy and glad to hear you're on the mend! We've both been through the ringer!
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tedburns3, don't get me wrong, I don't like "rightie-only" controls on firearms either. But the reality is that not every pistol I shoot is going to be leftie-friendly, so I always try to keep my Methods of Operation as neutral and universal as possible. That means a few things:

1. Magazine release always kept on left side, even it is reversible. I use trigger finger, which in many instances is actually quicker and causes less change in grip than using thumb... mostly because I have small hands.

2. Likewise, I almost always use trigger finger to release slide in a "combat reload" situation, regardless of whether there is an ambi release lever on the right side or not. That, or "slingshot" with right hand. I don't want to have to "think" which gun I have and react differently in a stress-filled situation. For normal handling, sure, a right-side release lever is nice.

3. Manual Safety. This is a big can of worms. About 1/3 of my pistols have ambi manual safety, but upon drawing from holster, I always sweep with my left thumb regardless of which gun I am shooting and whether there is a safety there or not. It's a habit I consciously developed.

Okay... what happens if the gun has manual safety only on the left side? This goes back to what I said in my post#31 above. Pistols like that, I only buy if it can be carried safely in a holster without the safety engaged. As soon as the pistol is holstered, I click OFF the manual safety. Since holstering is usually done in "peace time", I can take my time and do it with whichever finger that is convenient. So then... the gun is ready to fire directly out of the holster.

This can be a striker fired either with a long, heavy DA trigger pull (Bodyguard), or with a trigger safety (M&P Shield). Or hammer fired DA trigger that I can decock or otherwise lower the hammer.

If a pistol must be carried Condition 1 (1911), then I would only buy one with ambi manual safety. The left thumb sweep habit then takes care of it. My P938 is like that.

All this might sound convoluted, but in practice it's actually very straight forward, once I drilled the MO into my CC routine. And it works with virtually any pistol. The only exception is, say, a 1911 with no ambi safety, which to me is about as good as a brick.

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Thanks for your comments. I can assure you that if you holster with safety ON you will more than once forget to disengage it before your next gunfight, and as a leftie, you will be out of luck.

I now only purchase firearms that are user-friendly for lefties, with one compromise- the Shield. And I may sell that too if it p*ss*s me off.

I've sold the Bersa Thunder, Sig SP2009, Polish P-64 for that sole reason. The Shield will be my one and only pistol that has a non-friendly (left-sided only) thumb safety. The only issue will be whether I use it at all, because I do like to chamber round, field strip, and clear weapon with safety ON.

However, since the CA Compliant version has the requisite magazine disconnect, I see even less reason to touch that darn safety, so I am going to use it, if at all, re holstering issues, and with pocket holsters I don't even bother.

I tend to favor the Beretta 92FS as my ideally suited firearm, but it's too big for pocket carry. With that firearm I always chamber round with safety ON, as well as clear it and field strip with it ON. Why? Because it's safer in my view. I do it because the safety/decocker is ambidextrous.

Thanks for helping me come to my decision NEVER to use the manual safety on the Shield. I would carry it only in a pocket holster and mine is coming with the mag disconnect safety feature. The leftie part of me says 'don't use the effen thing'... just keep 'finger off the trigger'...'treat me like a revolver'...

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funny I don't buy MPs unless it has the thumb safety.
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funny I don't buy MPs unless it has the thumb safety.
Are you a right or left-handed shooter?

Question for CA Compliant Shield owners: If you've measured trigger pull with the CA Shield, what are your trigger pull findings with the stock firearm?

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Gunny,

Just wanted to write this post more about your health than your Shield. Get well soon, amigo. My mom had open heart surgery almost a year ago for a benign tumor in her upper right atrium.....a year next month. She is doing GREAT and I call her my "Miracle Mama".

Follow the doctor's orders, get well soon, and get back out there on that firing line!!
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Gunny...When did you have your surgery? I had open heart on July 2nd but haven't been back out to the range. I had an aortic aneurysm repair and aortic valve replacement. It took me a good month to shake the anesthesia. Felt groggy-foggy. The biggest thing was no appetite. Literally had to force food down. Most food had an extreme salty taste.
I'm going to wait for a little while longer before I hit the range. Main reason is the road out there. Have to drive a couple of miles down a rutty-bumpy-washboard dirt road, a lot of bouncy-bouncy. That's not good for a healing sternum!
Glad you like your Shield. I love to target shoot and do reloading. Take her easy and glad to hear you're on the mend! We've both been through the ringer!
Wow, there seems to be a lot of this going around.

I had my bypass on June 25th, and was released from the hospital on July 4th, so I'm closing in on eight weeks. Don't rush it, I got out a little sooner than I should have and, although I didn't shoot but about 10 rounds, I felt it for a couple days. I may try again toward the end of September as I don't want to start over. This is definitely one of those baby steps kinda things.

I can relate to the lack of appetite, mine didn't really return until I'd been out of the hospital for about a week.

Get healed up yourself and take it easy. Shooting is fun, but not so much so when it causes you have to start healing all over again. Good Luck, good shooting, and get well soon.
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Just wanted to write this post more about your health than your Shield. Get well soon, amigo. My mom had open heart surgery almost a year ago for a benign tumor in her upper right atrium.....a year next month. She is doing GREAT and I call her my "Miracle Mama".

Follow the doctor's orders, get well soon, and get back out there on that firing line!!
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Congrats on the Shield, and Welcome to the forum. For the Shield, the Talon rubber grip seems to be the one that works. I replaced the Talon granulate grips on mine with the rubber, and find it works better with my holster of choice.

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Brought my brand new Shield 9 home today and put about 50 rounds downrange. I'm happy, happy, happy!

Two years ago I sold my CS9 and regretted it ever since until today. The feel, weight, trigger pull, reset, ease of mag change, and cost have won me over big time!

Now I hope they come up with the Shield in .45....But I'm not selling this 9 if they do.
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Thanks for your informative, detailed response, Gunny.

I have been considering the Sticky, but also the DeSantis Pocket-tuk for the Shield, because it serves similar use, both IWB and pocket.

I really prefer pocket carry, so first will see how I feel with my new Shield (waiting period) with a Nemesis, and a UM #4 pocket holster, before spending more on either the Pocket-Tuk or Sticky holster.
Update: Received this great firearm last night, and feeling the ropes. In any event, it conceals pretty well in both the Nemesis and the Uncle Mike's #4 pocket holster, with the lead going to the UM #4.

No further holster purchases are contemplated at this time.

I did notice with my new Shield there appears to be a 'slot' in the butt that would likely house the portable 'tool' used to lower the sear deactivation lever. This slot only is accessible with the 7-rd magazine attached as it's covered by the 8-rd magazine.

I don't believe such tool comes with this firearm, though, and was wondering if there's such a tool dedicated to the Shield for those who intend to use it mostly with the 7-rd magazine (and in the event of a 'fight', hope there's no need for a tactical reload with the 8-rounder! ).
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I did notice with my new Shield there appears to be a 'slot' in the butt that would likely house the portable 'tool' used to lower the sear deactivation lever. This slot only is accessible with the 7-rd magazine attached as it's covered by the 8-rd magazine.

I don't believe such tool comes with this firearm, though, and was wondering if there's such a tool dedicated to the Shield for those who intend to use it mostly with the 7-rd magazine (and in the event of a 'fight', hope there's no need for a tactical reload with the 8-rounder! ).
Not sure I understand what you are referring to. The sear deactivation lever is only used for removing the slide for field stripping. Even then, you could always just pull the trigger instead of using that lever.

Personally, I rarely bother pulling out the "tool" from my FS and C, which come with it. There is always something lying around (pen, pin, screwdriver, etc.) that is more convenient than having to pull that tool, which is seated in the pistol grip pretty darn tight.
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Congrats on the shield! I just sold my external safety one a month ago and bought the new non-external safety model. Shooting it tomorrow with the wife for the first time, fully expect it to be every bit as awesome as the last one. Bought the 40 shield after selling the other 9 and was not in love. Great pistol, but not as fun at the range like the 9, so I bought a new one and won't be looking back. Hope you get better soon and can get back to shooting the hell out of your shield. Take care.
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Not sure I understand what you are referring to. The sear deactivation lever is only used for removing the slide for field stripping. Even then, you could always just pull the trigger instead of using that lever.

Personally, I rarely bother pulling out the "tool" from my FS and C, which come with it. There is always something lying around (pen, pin, screwdriver, etc.) that is more convenient than having to pull that tool, which is seated in the pistol grip pretty darn tight.
I called S&W and there is no such tool dedicated to the Shield. The tool is used to switch backstraps and lower the sear deactivation. I am too lazy to take a picture of my CA Shield grip butt. With only the 7-rd mag inserted, there appears an oval shaped area where such a tool could reside as in other M&P's.

Field-strip: Pulling the trigger with a CA Shield, is a definite no-go, especially with that magazine disconnect safety requiring reinsertion of a mag to pull trigger, and cycling .

Dangerous as with the CA Compliant Shield you are asking ironically for trouble by doing it the non-approved way by pulling said trigger (not even mentioned or referred to in the manual) because the mag one drops during clearing and then reinsert in a hurry to field strip may still have rounds in it and then a surprising BANG.

Any gun that requires, like the Glock, that one pull the trigger to field-strip is LESS SAFE than one that does not (Shield, other M&P's, XDm, Beretta 90 series, Sig?, etc.).

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Gunny, hope your recovery goes smoothly.

I have one of the original safety model Shields. One of the guns made and shipped when the Shield was first announced.

My wife has a Shield that was made in the summer of 2013. Both guns are 9mm.

I installed an Apex hard sear I both guns, along with Ameriglo night sights. The ones with the bright orange front sights.

The stock triggers in both guns were serviceable. But the Apex sears made them just a bit nicer.

My Shield is on my soft body armor as I eat lunch and type this. It's my BUG while at work. It's my slip in my pants while I putz around the house gun. And it's my vacation gun when in low threat places like Sanibel Island in Florida.

For off-duty carry, I prefer something a bit larger than the Shield. But my Shield has replaced my "little guns" like my Kahr PM9 and my J frame 642.

Gunny, listen to your Doc. But once you're ready, you're going to thoroughly enjoy your Shield. Most shooters tend to start to compare their performance with the Shield to a larger size duty gun, and not to a single stack sub compact. Once you get back out to the range, let us know what you think of yours.
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