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Old 12-28-2014, 08:33 PM
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Hell yeah I am happy with my Shield 9. It is very easy to conceal and is fun to shoot. What's not to like?
X 2 and the longer I've had it the more I love it !!!
It's a great little gun that shoots well , feels great and conceals nicely .
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Old 12-28-2014, 09:11 PM
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Very happy with my Shield...but even happier with with my LC9s.
I heard a lot of complaining about the original LC9 trigger pull. IMO, the Shield trigger is worse with 7# pull and long over travel(after the sear breaks). LC9 trigger is long but easy to master with some practice, producing very good results for a defensive carry weapon. The LC9 is easier to manipulate and doesn't have gorilla recoil or magazine springs. Smith and Wesson gets a D- on their thumb safety. I have learned from someone here that the secret is to push hard into the slide with your thumb to make the safety work better. Both are excellent little guns in an effective caliber.
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Old 12-28-2014, 09:16 PM
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like most folks... love mine !
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Old 12-28-2014, 09:27 PM
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Wish I would have waited for the no thumb safety. So used to the third gen and got to think, "is it on or off".
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Old 12-28-2014, 09:38 PM
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I heard a lot of complaining about the original LC9 trigger pull. IMO, the Shield trigger is worse with 7# pull and long over travel(after the sear breaks). LC9 trigger is long but easy to master with some practice, producing very good results for a defensive carry weapon. The LC9 is easier to manipulate and doesn't have gorilla recoil or magazine springs. Smith and Wesson gets a D- on their thumb safety. I have learned from someone here that the secret is to push hard into the slide with your thumb to make the safety work better. Both are excellent little guns in an effective caliber.
I believe the complaints were on the LC9 that's not striker fired . The striker fired LC9"s" the s stands for striker fired and it's got a very nice trigger . The reset is a little long but doesn't take much to make it go bang . Just picked one up a few weeks ago and haven't made it to the range yet but I'll tell you what dry firing it puts a smile on my face and seems to impress those that have shot it . I love my shield though also and both will be in my EDC rotation Im sure .
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Old 12-28-2014, 10:07 PM
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I have had a 40 since they came out. No problems shooting more than 500 rounds of 40. Only problems were with the S&W 9 mm barrel. I now shoot my Shield exclusively in 40. I find that felt recoil is reduced with a standard 180 grain load versus lighter loads.
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I don't know why anyone would load mags by hand when UpLulas exist! I recently introduced several people in their 60s, who have arthritis, to UpLulas. They saw me loading mags while shooting and were very interested. They borrowed mine, and were amazed they could load mags without hurting their thumbs. They bought one at the range before leaving. I have carpal tunnel, so I've used an UpLula since day one of getting my first pistol in 2013.
Prior to reading this thread I'd never heard of an UpLULA but it couldn't have been more timely as I went to the range just today and put 200 rounds through some paper and my thumb is a little sore. Already ordered one. As for liking the Shield, yes, with the exception of my index finger feeling a little tweaked.

I'd been having problems with hits being left and slightly low so I tried the 1st joint instead of the pad, and the shots are better. More practice will bring even better results, hopefully.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:25 AM
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Just bought a M&P shield 9mm couple weeks ago and finally took it to the range just the other day and I'm happy to report that it overall surpassed my expectations. It was more accurate than I thought it'd be, recoil is comparable to my .38 spl and the trigger is very good. I put 125 rounds thru it and only had two rounds that didnt feed into the chamber, Hornady "Critical defense" and Winchester W "Train & defend". Regular Winchester FMJ fed no problems. I would describe my pistol as being tight and getting the last round or two into the magazines when loading are very difficult at first however I noticed the springs in the magazines loosen up a bit after some use... Like I said I only put about 125 rounds thru it so far. I would highly recommend the M&P shield. As far as the 2 out of 125 rounds not feeding into the chamber I'd say that's probably because the pistol needs a decent break in period...

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Old 12-29-2014, 02:03 PM
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Prior to reading this thread I'd never heard of an UpLULA but it couldn't have been more timely as I went to the range just today and put 200 rounds through some paper and my thumb is a little sore. Already ordered one. As for liking the Shield, yes, with the exception of my index finger feeling a little tweaked.

I'd been having problems with hits being left and slightly low so I tried the 1st joint instead of the pad, and the shots are better. More practice will bring even better results, hopefully.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:30 PM
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Great little gun, as with most here, a very stiff spring, until you send about 250 rounds down range. After that, wow, what a joy to shoot! Wife loves it, over my 1911's. Has the thumb safety, but never use it, so it's not in my way!
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[QUOTE=roadcykler;138295366]Prior to reading this thread I'd never heard of an UpLULA but it couldn't have been more timely as I went to the range just today and put 200 rounds through some paper and my thumb is a little sore. Already ordered one. As for liking the Shield, yes, with the exception of my index finger feeling a little tweaked.



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Old 12-29-2014, 10:46 PM
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Love Mine... It backs up the primary, a 45 ACP Colt Commander
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Old 12-31-2014, 06:17 PM
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After some initial problems the first time I took my Shield 9 to the range, (limp wrist hand-hold), it has performed flawlessly. I have several hundred rounds through the thing after that first day and love using it. I would not hesitate for a moment purchasing it again. I'm "very, very" happy with my Shield.
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Old 12-31-2014, 09:08 PM
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I LOVE my .40 SHIELD

It's gets CCW'd a lot and shot a lot
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Oh and I love my Shield 9 to !!😍
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So far I like it. Have only 100 rounds but no issues yet. It's better built than my Kel Tec PF9 it replaced.
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Old 01-11-2015, 09:13 PM
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The more I shoot mine (9mm) the more I like it.
Loaded with Winchester 124gr HP +P ready to go
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Old 01-11-2015, 10:32 PM
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Just picked up a shield 9 yesterday, put 100 rounds through it today. Had a problem with the slide not locking back after the last round fired.
With help from this forum, found I was covering the slide lock lever with my thumb preventing the lock from engaging the slide. Altered my grip and problem solved.
Gun is very accurate and trigger to me is fine,although I haven't shot a 1911 so maybe I don't know what a good trigger feels like. I had a G26 and think the shield trigger is just as good or better.
I love this little gun already!
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my wife said it was too heavy. She has the BG380 to carry and the Shield 9mm on the night stand


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Old 01-26-2015, 03:14 PM
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Great gun this MP 9mm my opinion is the best. I didn't like the action, trigger pull was gritty sent it back to S&W explaining to them got the gun back what a difference.
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Just wanted to update on my last post made in December. In short, I LOVE this pistol! Initially it was tight and I had I think 2 FTF that I now strongly believe was due to a 8 round mag that was much noticably stiffer than my other mags. After a good cleaning it loosened up a lot. .. I have since then disasembled all of my mags & clean them with Hoppes#9 after a day at the range & the problem has disappeared. 600 rounds later, no issues at all, and it is a joy to shoot at the range.

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I really like my shield. It's one of the newer (no safety) pistols. The only problem is that it's very hard to insert the 7 round mag. Works okay if you only load 6.
It seems to be a problem inherent in the Shields, at least the 9mm. The problem was solved beautifully for me by installing the MagGuts kit by Corso Inc. at magguts.com. The kit replaces the factory follower and spring with new ones that retain the original factory spring pressure but allow for one extra round. What I have found is that the new follower and spring create a little MORE than 1 round of room, which creates a little extra headroom at the top of the magazine, now loaded with EIGHT rounds instead of seven. The result of this is that the magazine seats FAR more easily in the magazine well with one in the pipe than it did before! It’s a Win-Win situation!
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After I installed the Apex carry kit, new sights, and grip decals...I am now VERY happy with my EDC. It carries and shoots great for its size.
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I've owned my Shield 9mm for nearly 2 years now and to date I have put over 8,235 rounds... I bought mine new with the intentions of being my EDC. I practiced with it, passed my CHL class with it, I used it in IDPA matches. It is with me always... Since then I replaced the stock sights for a set of Ameriglo night sights. part# SW-345. I had to replace the stock mag springs cause they got so loose. I bought replacement springs from Wollf. A couple emails to S&W cust service & guess what?
They sent me free of charge not one.... but two brand new RSA's....
This is truely an amazingly well built pistol that's worth every penny..

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Extremely happy. I just purchased the new 9MM Shield, no thumb safety, with tritium night sights. An outstanding pistol - much better than the first one I bought right after they were introduced.


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We love our Shields. My wife and I each have a .40 with tritium night sights that we purchased in January. No problems whatsoever, although I had to return mine twice to S&W to have the front sight centered. No hassle with customer service either. My wife wears golfing gloves to shoot and rack the pistol because her hands suffer somewhat from arthritis. With practice, the guns are easy to shoot and very accurate. We recommend them.
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3 years + 3,500 rounds + 1% failure rate (ammo related) + Trijicon Night Sights + Apex flat faced FSS AEK + Traction grips = happy owner

It's no longer my EDC but I still conceal carry it during the colder months. The Apex kit made the biggest difference. It's got a light trigger at 4lbs but with the safety and lots of practice I'm okay with it.
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I have had my 9mm since they first came out. No problems, great gun.
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I'm one of the million or so satisfied owners. My 9mm has been flawless for over 2 years and is my EDC.
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Love my 9mm Shield. The more I shoot it the more I like it.
I'm getting close to 1000 rounds through it, and have had almost zero failures of any kind.
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Got my 9mm in March 16. Love it with 800+ rounds. Carry almost everyday.

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I'm going to be the odd one here I guess.

Dumped mine after 2 months. 1 month of the ownership it was at S&W factory being repaired. Still wasn't 100% right after it was returned. Couldn't shoot it accurate for the life of me from the beginning.

Ended up giving it to my daughter as she needed an EDC. I have a custom made CZ 75 Compact being built as we speak. Once you have shot a CZ everything else is just a downgrade...

I'll stick with S&W Revolvers. Hoping to get a Performance Model Revolver within a month or two... Just not a fan of their M&P line. To each his/her own I guess...
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I would try an XDS before buying the Shield. The slide is a lot easier to operate on the XDS which is generally very important for the ladies. I traded my Shield for and XDS. Like the XDS much better in every way.
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I believe I will end up liking my 9mm Shield. I have only had a chance to run a hundred rounds through it. The first fifty went perfect. The next fifty had several failure to feeds, which I later found out it was because the spring broke in the magazine in the 8 round mag. S&W is send me a new spring. So I'm going to assume that with the magazine working properly, it will work as well as it did the first fifty rounds, and if it does I will like the gun a lot. It shot well, with little recoil,but one thing, get yourself an Uplula magazine loader. It will save your thumb, those springs are almost impossibly stiff. But I'm sure you will like the gun.
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Bought a traditional Shield. Liked it so much I bought a PC Shield after that . Both are excellent!
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I'm asking this because my wife wants a M&P Shield 9mm...

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The good: it will eat any ammo. Mine is seven months old and I have not had any failure to fire or failure to eject out of it yet (in about 1400 rounds). It is easy to break down and easy to clean. I am an old guy with arthritis and at least with mine I don't have any issues racking the slide. It is a good weight and feel with medium hands. It does not print much with my nemesis holster (I guess not much of a problem for a lady.)

The bad: I had to get a loader to be able to fill my mags easily and quickly. The trigger was gritty and very heavy even after a few hundred rounds so I replaced it with an apex sear. (It is perfect now). I am not at all happy with the accuracy. I will state two things. I have shot for 59 years. I consider myself a good shot. I expect in my hands to be able to place all my shots at 5 and 7 yards in a 2" circle and a 4" at 10 yards. I have yet to be able to do that. I fully realize this is not a target pistol, but I have no trouble doing this on my Glock G42. I have now eliminated winchester white box 115 gr and SW UMC 124 (both fmj) as inconsistent. and am working on finding target ammo that is acceptable (BTW in self defense ammo federal LE HST in 147 gr std pressure is getting close to my accuracy needs).

If I had it to do over again I would not have bought this without running 100 or 200 rounds through a rental. I got to impatient waiting for a glock g43 and got a good deal on this one. So, I should have waited. the glocks are all more accurate in my hands. If I wouldn't lose my shorts in the deal I'd swap it for a g43 in a hearbeat, and I feel a lady would likely feel that way too.
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The bad: I had to get a loader to be able to fill my mags easily and quickly. The trigger was gritty and very heavy even after a few hundred rounds so I replaced it with an apex sear. (It is perfect now). I am not at all happy with the accuracy. I will state two things. I have shot for 59 years. I consider myself a good shot. I expect in my hands to be able to place all my shots at 5 and 7 yards in a 2" circle and a 4" at 10 yards. I have yet to be able to do that. I fully realize this is not a target pistol, but I have no trouble doing this on my Glock G42. I have now eliminated winchester white box 115 gr and SW UMC 124 (both fmj) as inconsistent. and am working on finding target ammo that is acceptable (BTW in self defense ammo federal LE HST in 147 gr std pressure is getting close to my accuracy needs).
I like you couldn't stand the trigger. After 500 rounds it still was very bad. My daughter noticed that the first time she shot it. I may upgrade hers with an Apex down the road.

I also consider myself a pretty good shot. But I was all over the place with this gun. I may get a Glock down the road, but I prefer CZ over everyone else at this time.
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This is my second subcompact - a 9mm. Used to own a FS Llama 38 super, so this has been an adjustment. It fits in my hands better than my first one, the Taurus PT 111 G2, which I sold. That being said, the trigger is gritty and the grip is slick. Put on Talon grips to help out. Otherwise, it has had no FTE or FTF using various ammo brands. I seem to have better accuracy and precision with 124 grain ammo than 115. Will drop in an Apex kit after having shot my buddy's .40 cal Shield with an Apex trigger kit.
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Traded my PX4 40 in, and took home a shield in 9mm. I had already decided that I was going to part with the PX4, and stick with SW M&P as my platform to build on. Additionally I wanted something that my youngest Daughter would find a bit more comfortable than my FS, in .40.

The store had both a regular with thumb safety, and the Performance Center, I took the regular shield home. I like everything about the performance center model except for the ported barrel. If I were to get one, I would change the barrel to a standard barrel.

Hit the range the day after I got it, and ran about 180 115gr fmj rounds through it. Quite a nice shooting small pistol. Hit the range on Monday with my Daughter and let her put a bunch through it. She did very well with it, and it fits her small hands much better than the FS, mainly due to the width. Picked up 2 extra mags, and have another 2 in the mail. Will get 2 mag guts spring kits, and set up 2 extended mags as 9 round. Going to get some 124, and 147gr and see how I like a few different ammo types.

Next up is a compact, but have not decided on what caliber.
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Wish I would have waited for the no thumb safety. So used to the third gen and got to think, "is it on or off".
So it is weird to quote myself but since someone brought this old thread back and things have changed I would like to note that I still have my 9 shield and have added a 45 shield without the thumb safety.
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Make sure she can operate it, the shield has the stiffest springs, both recoil and magazine, that I have seen. My wife cant operate mine, and when I got it the last bullet to go in mag was a pia. Other than that mine has run like a clock, no problems in any way, and it it is very accurate for what it is.
I have a .40CA Shield. You are correct on the stiff springs. Recently I saw where there are new stainless steel recoil springs for sale for the Shield, although I don't recall where. Might have been on Amazon. They are supposed to reduce the recoil. I'm not certain if I would want one though. What do you think? I am beginning to think I might prefer the 9mm. I have begun buying bullets with lowere powder charges than 180.

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I would try an XDS before buying the Shield. The slide is a lot easier to operate on the XDS which is generally very important for the ladies. I traded my Shield for and XDS. Like the XDS much better in every way.
Can't get these in Mass through an FFL otherwise I'd probably have one. I got an XDM 3.8 45 off a a local LEO in a FTF transaction and it's easily my favorite gun to shoot. HE had and XDS 9mm on him when I bought his .45. I loved the way it felt in my hand the triggers out of the box smoke the M&P triggers. I've had the one on my Shield reworked by an excellent local gunsmith and now it completely kicks all sorts of butt but it annoys me that I had to do that to make the gun a 'shootable" gun. I just picked up a 9C and he is doing that trigger for me this weekend.
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I like you couldn't stand the trigger. After 500 rounds it still was very bad. My daughter noticed that the first time she shot it. I may upgrade hers with an Apex down the road.

The Apex sear made a world of difference in the first Shield I owned. It does make the trigger quite a bit lighter so if proper/safe gun handling is in question, best to not change.
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Love mine. I've only had it a few months, and have only run about 500 or so rounds through it, but it runs like a champ. I don't play with +P rounds, though. I limit my self-defense ammo to Hornady 115 grain Critical Defense of Federal 124 grain HST, both in standard pressure. Both get at least 12" penetration through 4 layers of ballistic denim, and both rounds expand nicely - with the Federal HST performing the best out of the two.
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