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Old 11-18-2014, 01:02 PM
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I have one that is now running like a top. It was painful, with several trips to S&W to get it that way. Lots of folks have great results new out of the box, others not.

If you have patience and want that weapon to work, go for it. Hope it will click sooner than it did for me.

(Mine is also a 9mm)
OK! Took my replacement Shield 9 out yesterday and fired fifty rounds. (Had five hundred with me) Accuracey? Tore out a three inch hole in the center at 25 yds. Extraction perfect! Ejection? If I'd had a bucket and was standing perfectly in same place after reloading the mags__all the fired casings would be in that bucket.
Problem__troublesome recoil spring assembly. Had noticed it when cleaning and lubing the piece. S&W is mailing a new spring assembly. I was having serious doubts about the Shield. No more
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:51 PM
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I love my 9mm Shield. No problems with it so far. I put black rubber Talon grips on it and they look and feel great. I pocket carry it in a De Santis pocket holster and forget it is there sometimes. My daughter shot it and liked it so well that she bought her one. She will pick it up in a couple of days.
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Old 11-18-2014, 04:35 PM
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Arguably the best small 9mm or 40cal. pistol on the market today. And I've owned and shot most of the alternatives.
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:51 PM
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I have a Shield in 40. I use Fiocchi and Sellier & Bellot in 180 grain ammo. It has never had a problem and is very accurate. I carry it all the time. Great weapon IMHO.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:42 PM
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No regrets on trading my SP101 for my Shield 9mm.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:09 PM
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I'm a woman and love mine. Had to work with the rack for a bit. It has gotten better or I have one. The more I shoot it the better it gets.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:15 AM
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I haven't put that many rounds through mine, but every time I do I am amazed at how a little gun like that can be so accurate. It is kind of uncanny. I shoot mine better than any of my other guns. Easy to carry as well.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:42 AM
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"Are you happy with your Shield?"

So much so that I have two.
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Old 11-20-2014, 11:23 AM
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Mine has been awesome. Never any issues....except for the typical tight rear sight to remove. My girlfriend did not like the feel of the trigger at first but she was dead on shooting it. She wanted the LC9 instead. Buy the gun that fits her the best.
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:21 PM
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OK! Took my replacement Shield 9 out yesterday and fired fifty rounds. (Had five hundred with me) Accuracey? Tore out a three inch hole in the center at 25 yds. Extraction perfect! Ejection? If I'd had a bucket and was standing perfectly in same place after reloading the mags__all the fired casings would be in that bucket.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:15 PM
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I'm asking this because my wife wants a M&P Shield 9mm...

Thanks in advance...
I had one and sold it. Replaced with S&W .380 Bodyguard. Lighter and feels better in my hand.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:17 PM
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Default I love the 9mm M&P Shield BUT.....

All of the operations are stiff and do not soften up with use. I had to get a 3.1 barrel swap and it took over 3 months of haggling. The "aftermarket" with the FFL guys for parts for this pistol is virtually non existent.

My wife is becoming accustomed to these operating issues BUT will not load a magazine without using her loader helper!

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Old 11-20-2014, 05:21 PM
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When I first purchased the SW Shield 9mm, the gun was stiff and I needed King Kong strength to rack the slide. After approx 100 rounds a the use of a good cleaning and lubricant (I used Rand CLP) the operation of the slide became easier to use.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:23 PM
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I did not like mine. Too many issues. Factory repaired it, but I sold it.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:26 PM
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Love mine. One very worthy upgrade is an Apex Tactical Trigger kit. The factory trigger pull of 6.5 lbs (possibly more with some state specific versions) is, IMHO too much for a pistol of that size. The Apex kit reduces the pull down to 5-5.5 lbs and is worth every penny.

I've also added Hi-Viz sights (for my old man eyes) and Talon rubber grips.

I've put about 500 rounds through it with zero issues. As others have said, stiff slide, but will loosen up after a couple boxes.
My set up is identical. I have had 3 different shields... The first had the stock trigger and yes, you pull it down and left. Second I got an APEX ADEK trigger - 2.5lbs... way too light for a carry gun. Third is my EDC now. APEX trigger, about a 4.5# pull and TFO sights for my old eyes... and I shoot it lights out!
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:28 PM
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Great pocket gun. But rent it for her first to make sure she is ok with it. It isn't a question of "can" but whether she is comfortable with it. Some people think it's a little snappy (even the 9). I rotate it as a pocket gun with an LC9s (the newer striker version). It's another one to look at. Personal preference? The Shield 9 is a class act.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:29 PM
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Love mine! Have the Shield in 40 and put 600 rounds flawlessly.

Use it as my primary CC daily.

Very accurate on range my only issue is that my hand starts to fatigue and after 50 rounds I start loosing accuracy not the gun.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:31 PM
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I love my shield 9mm. It was great out of the box as well as its twin I bought a few weeks later..the only thing I changed is I built up the thumb safety just a bit with Brownell's fiberglas and then rounded it off a bit. It is perfect but S&W needs to improve it and get rid of the sharp edge on top of the lever. I highly recommend the Shield 9mm but would not buy the 40 unless I could reload them and reduce the load...The 40 in a compact is not for fun at all!

Do buy the Shield in 9mm. The mag springs could be clipped a few links to make them easier to load but buy an Uplula and save your thumbnail! I have only to install the XS Big Dots on mine and it will be perfect. The stock rear sight also is very sharp at the rear. S&W has beat Glock to making a thin gun for EDC with the Shield! I will never buy another Glock 26..
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:35 PM
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Wife prefers the 442.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:38 PM
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I think my response will be the first from The People's Republic of California. I took delivery of my California compliant M&P Shield 9mm in May 2014. I couldn't be happier. A few things that some people don't like are the external safety and the red-sided shark fin tactile Loaded Chamber Indicator. First I'll address the external safety. It is way harder to engage the safety than disengage, so if you choose to carry with the safety off, there is little change of accidentally engaging it. I carry IWB appendix, which many don't like because of the possibility of mortal injury in the event of a negligent discharge. Because of this carry method, I carry with the safety on, but have trained to flick the safety as part of my presentation of the firearm during the middle of my draw stroke. I can have my first shot on target in a little over 1.3 seconds this way, and still carry a safe firearm. Second, regarding the "shark fin" LCI: It's a non-issue. It doesn't hang up on anything, and does not interfere with the sight picture. Although a little stiff for the first few hundred rounds, this gun has run flawlessly since the day I bought it. I brought it home, cleaned it and treated all metal surfaces with Frog Lube before I ever ran a live round through it. It runs like a top! We recently bought another for my wife, and she loves it!

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I am in California also and will pick up my Shield (9mm) on the 25th.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:40 PM
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I carry my Shield 40 everywhere and love it. Perfect size for CCW. As mentioned, it's a little stiff at first, but that loosens up with use.

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Old 11-20-2014, 05:43 PM
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I love mine. A little stiff at first, but nothing a few hundred rounds won't cure. Great gun.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:48 PM
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My wife has the Shield in 9mm & I can tell you she loves it, (so do I when she leaves it home), not one problem so far & she's had it over a year now. I also got her the Crimson Trace laser for it, that's really a great combo if you like lasers, I know it helps my wife because of her eyesight
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Yes I love it. I have had it about a year with no problems.
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Old 11-20-2014, 06:17 PM
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It is a great gun. Very accurate. I didn't like the trigger pull when I got it. Felt gritty. I had an Apex trigger kit put in and it is smooth as silk. It is my favorite carry gun.
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Old 11-20-2014, 06:35 PM
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I cannot recommend the Shield highly enough!
Yes, it can be a little tricky at first. They're tight and it can be difficult to get the slide locked back, for example.
But once you learn the gun and it's broken in, it works beautifully. It's easy to shoot, accurate, reliable and concealable.
I've been a confirmed Glock guy for years but liked the Shield from the first moment I saw and handled one. I'm glad I bought it. It's my primary carry gun now and fun to shoot. I plan on getting one for my wife and my son-in-law down the road.
When S&W introduced it, it was an immediate game changer. Everybody else has been forced to play catch up.
Ditto, what he said. Love it now.
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Old 11-20-2014, 07:34 PM
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I really like my shield. It's one of the newer (no safety) pistols. The only problem is that it's very hard to insert the 7 round mag. Works okay if you only load 6.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:07 PM
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Can't add much more.
This is a great gun.
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Old 11-20-2014, 08:45 PM
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I really like my shield. It's one of the newer (no safety) pistols. The only problem is that it's very hard to insert the 7 round mag. Works okay if you only load 6.
I had the same problem, got a Maglula and problem solved, makes loading the mag a breeze.
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Although not as concealable as my Ruger LCR, my wife likes it. The biggest issue with it is the extreme difficulty loading the magazines! Getting the 7th and 8th round in is tough without using an Uplula.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:32 PM
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I'm asking this because my wife wants a M&P Shield 9mm...

Thanks in advance...
I have a Shield in a .40 and really like it. I reload mostly 165gr, light loads for shooting paper
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:25 PM
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Love mine. One very worthy upgrade is an Apex Tactical Trigger kit. The factory trigger pull of 6.5 lbs (possibly more with some state specific versions) is, IMHO too much for a pistol of that size. The Apex kit reduces the pull down to 5-5.5 lbs and is worth every penny.

I've also added Hi-Viz sights (for my old man eyes) and Talon rubber grips.

I've put about 500 rounds through it with zero issues. As others have said, stiff slide, but will loosen up after a couple boxes.
It seems as though Poolie is looking in my windows. I opted for Williams Firesights, as I find them to be a bit brighter than any else. Talon grips, Apex and a bit of white Testor's paint for that "custom" look. And cleaned up/polished the feed ramp.
However, my 40 Shield is no longer my EDC. It's been relegated to a disassembled Fobus holster permanently mounted in my vehicles. I just found over 2 years that I just didn't like carrying IWB or OWB. I'm a BUFF (not to be confused with buff) and I'd rather carry in-pocket.
Yes, I know-can't draw from there in a vehicle-hence the Fobus mounts in all vehicles.
My EDC is a Sig P938/Ramora kit. Worth the $$$ and as accurate as a sub can be.

Back to topic: I still LOVE the Shield. Great shooter. Comfortable, safe and reliable (750+ rounds down-range). I cut my teeth on 1911's and always prefer carrying locked and cocked. I must have a safety for peace of mind.

Only your wife will know. She MUST find one she can borrow/rent and just try it out.

P.S. Don't let her get her hands on a P938. It WILL cost you. Beautiful pistol.
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When I first purchased my M&P Shield, I didn't like the gritty trigger pull, so I installed the APEX Trigger kit and voila'; the trigger is as smooth as butter now. This is (IMO) the best compact conceal carry handgun on the market. I have about 600 to 700 rounds through it, and it has eaten everything I've put through it. I am very impressed with how accurate this handgun has been. Especially since the barrel is only 3.1" long; amazing.

I would highly recommend this handgun to anyone that is looking for a comfortable, accurate and reliable conceal carry weapon.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:51 PM
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Real happy with both of my 40 Shields. No problems with either in the last 2 years that I have had them.
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I have had the .40 since they first came out. Loved it so much I just purchased another in 9mm. Haven't had a chance to get to the range with the 9mm yet but, I expect nothing but the same results as my .40, HIGHLY recommend the Shield!!
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:09 AM
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Both the kid and I carry one for CCW. No issues or failures; 100% dependable in over 1000 rounds each. Sights close to point of impact and nicely accurate to boot.

I've had shooters with rather small hands successfully try my Shield; it fits a range of hands well.

I'd suggest doing a rental to try one out for you just to be sure it fits.
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Absolutely love my shield, 3000 rds and no problems
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:47 AM
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Thumbs up Do I like the shield??

Absolutely! Can't say enough about it, my favorite gun by far for carry... It runs great, it's accurate, and I've had zero malfunctions through approx. 500rds. aside from my own goof-ups..lol. I wouldn't want anything else for the money.

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Old 11-21-2014, 09:39 AM
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I have one that is now running like a top. It was painful, with several trips to S&W to get it that way. Lots of folks have great results new out of the box, others not.

If you have patience and want that weapon to work, go for it. Hope it will click sooner than it did for me.

(Mine is also a 9mm)
What all did you send it back to Smith for? Mine is at Smith for the second time because the trigger pull is hard and inconsistent. It came back the first time somewhat better, but still really inconsistent. The inconsistency is what is bad. If it pulled hard everytime, I probabably get used to it.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:56 AM
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My wife couldn't operate the slide so she settle with a 38 special Z back
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:00 AM
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I'm asking this because my wife wants a M&P Shield 9mm...

Thanks in advance...
As I said before, I do love my Shield, but your wife is the one who needs to make the decision. It is always better for her to decide for herself. My wife, after shooting my Shield and others, opted for the Glock 42. She loves it. She can shoot is all day and have no discomfort. It is an accurate and soft shooter. It is also lighter fully loaded than the Shield is unloaded.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:17 AM
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I have owned the M&P Shield in 9mm for a couple of months now and put about 150 rounds through it. For some lucky people like me, the 18 degree grip of the M&P line makes for more natural off-hand shooting, desirable of course for a gun marketed for self-defense. While it's similar in overall dimensions to the Glock 42 (.380), it's weight no doubt makes recoil quite manageable.

I very much like this weapon, but there are some annoying properties with mine, and not everyone may experience this with theirs.

A full magazine requires a pretty brisk tap to seat properly. This seems less of a problem when the slide is in lock-back position.

The slide is a little hard to draw back, and does take a committed effort to get it into lock-back position.

The front sights on mine are not centered, and it appears to be impossible for the average gun-owner to adjust them. I tried both adjusting and removing (in the recommended direction) and bent a brass punch in the process. That sight isn't going anywhere without a drift tool or a visit to a gunsmith.

All that said, adjusting my aim provides fairly consistent 2 inch grouping at 25 feet. Still haven't decided if I want to send it off or just spend the money on a local smith to keep from being without it for two or three weeks.

I think if you get one with correctly centered sights, and your wife doesn't have complaints about the weight (19 oz unloaded) I think she would find it easy and comfortable to shoot, and it's good to have the best fire power that she can manage. She might also like having the Pearce grip extension, and the Pachmayr grip glove.

Good luck and always be safe.

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:19 AM
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Make sure she can operate it, the shield has the stiffest springs, both recoil and magazine, that I have seen. My wife cant operate mine, and when I got it the last bullet to go in mag was a pia. Other than that mine has run like a clock, no problems in any way, and it it is very accurate for what it is.
This for sure.Very tight when new. If you will leave the slide locked back for a week or so it will help break in the recoil spring.
Same thing with the magazines,keep them loaded and they will be much easier to load. When you lock the slide back for disassembly,rack it back smartly while pushing up on the slide lock lever.It will save the hide on your thumb.
Other than that it is an excellantlly designed and very reliable pistol and a breeze to carry in numerous different methods.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:27 AM
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I bought my Shield about six months ago and it is now my favorite semiauto. It has given me zero issues through about 1000 rounds at ranges. As soon as I can afford it, I'll add a Crimson Trace greenie to it, fit it out for a Sneaky Pete and make it my primary CCW. My greatest fear is that as soon as the wife recovers from her most recent operation, she'll want to go to the range to try it out; I'm quite sure how that story will end...
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:40 PM
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First the good news. My 9mm Shield has been 100% reliable. Very accurate. Easy to shoot. My wife loves it too. It hides much more easily than my Glock 19. I generally use an IWB holster, but it will fit in my front pocket with a Nemesis holster. Purse carry should be no problem.

Now the bad news. I had to buy an Uplula loader to load the mags. Very stiff mag springs at first. They are loosening up with use. Same with the mags for my M&P 40. Very stiff recoil spring. Hard, even for me, to retract the slide enough to set the slide lock. Also loosening up with use. It is difficult to load a fresh mag if the slide is in battery. You have to push the last little bit really hard, making tactical reloads somewhat difficult. No problem if the slide is locked back. Just make sure your wife can perform all of these functions, which take a bit of hand strength, and she will be very happy with this gun.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:48 AM
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Great CCW. Added a set of tru-glo tfo's and an apex trigger kit. Pull is now a respectable 4.5# and the sights make it easier for fast target acquisition. The double safety is a plus for carrying in condition 1.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:05 AM
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I bought my Shield when it first came out and have not regretted the decision. The only problem that I have with the pistol is not being able to lock the slide back during reassembly. I bought a "Handi Racker" to solve the problem.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:44 AM
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I'm asking this because my wife wants a M&P Shield 9mm...

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I bought it for myself as the wife had a glock 19. she was having some limp wrist problems with the glock so I tried to get her to use the shield. After getting familiar with it the glock went in the safe to never see daylight again. the only issue we have had was the white dot on the front sight fell off I used fingernail polish and got her a veridian green laser. carries it on a custom holster I built for her and in her purse. she is a lefty and it functions without a hiccup over 2000 rounds down the pipe
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