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Old 11-18-2014, 11:41 PM
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OK so this is gonna sound kinda silly (understatement), but hang with me here.

So I just bought a brand new 9mm M&P Shield, literally my first gun to own for the purpose of eventually getting my CHL (live in Texas). Well I was practicing loading it and racking it etc... (I live a little ways out) and one time I racked it and the round somehow turned itself around and when the slide tried to go back to its original position after I released it the round got logged somehow in the chamber/barrel with the primer facing the end of the gun instead of the other way around. So at this point I don't wanna try and push the round out by stick something up the barrel and pushing on the primer and I can't take the gun apart since I can't get the slide to move forward off of its tracks. Any suggestions? (You know after you finish laughing at me. :P )

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Further Info: Using Fiocchi ammunition.

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Old 11-19-2014, 12:25 AM
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thats what snap caps are for... dont practice loading and racking with live ammunition... thats how you inadvertently shoot something.


i would put a solid brass rod (with a flat end) near the diameter of the barrel, in from the muzzle end and tap it out. The primers are a little recessed so unless the rod is the same size as the primer or smaller, you wouldnt set it off...
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As the prior post suggests, better to use snap caps for practice.

Can you lock the slide back? If so, do so. You might try to drop a small quality lube down the barrel and let the gun set muzzle up for a bit. Ideally in a padded vice etc.

Then use the suggested larger brass rod down and tap the round out gently. A wooden dowel of the near bore size might work as well. Obviously use eye pro and keep your face away from the breech and bore and if a few taps don't do it. Suck it up and go to a gunsmith.

Hopefully the rest of your Shield experience will be les exciting.

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Old 11-19-2014, 12:50 AM
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If you can lock the slide back, do that and with the muzzle pointing up, lightly bump the back of slide on a hard non marring surface. Inertia might dislodge the casing.
You could also take a hollow tube like an arrow shaft and lightly tap it out from the muzzle.
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As others have suggested you have to lock the slide to the rear and hold it in the open position using the slide lock.

If can't get it to lock back manually, try inserting an empty mag and pull back on the slide...should lock back.

If I'm correctly visualizing what happened, until you can get the slide pressure off the round, you're going to have a hard time getting it unstuck. Locking the slide back will take the pressure off.

From there you should be able to use your fingers to unstick the round. A slight wack to the back of the gun might work too, but you also risk the slide going back foward and slamming into the round again. Maybe take a pencil and put the eraser side into the barrel as a last resort.
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I'm more concerned about how the round "somehow got turned around." Could the round have been inserted into the mag backwards or is round reversal a know issue with semi-autos? Also, Fiocchi JHP's are the only ammo I've ever had issues with (FTF) but never saw one do a 180.


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Untill you can shoot your pistol at a range don't worry about how ammo acts. Fiocchi Ammo works for some not for others. Part of the learning process. NEVER again rack live ammo for the sake of practice. Never .
Your lack of skill could cause the problem too. Do like others said using an object to tap the round out but not a flat object. High prime and I nice solid whack and you could have it go off where its at. Arrow shaft, wood dowel but with a 3/16 hole start in the center will work. The 9mm brass is tapperd so its base is wider at the rear of the brass. It could be pressed in pretty good so be careful. Take to a smith if need be. Try another brand but have a rod in your range bag and try the fiocchi again down the road.
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I'm more concerned about how the round "somehow got turned around." Could the round have been inserted into the mag backwards or is round reversal a know issue with semi-autos? Also, Fiocchi JHP's are the only ammo I've ever had issues with (FTF) but never saw one do a 180.


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No, I think what happened to that "backward round" was a combination of you doing things with which you are not familiar. I doubt anything is wrong with the pistol. And let me add my strong recommendation to others: USE SNAP-CAPS!

BTW, you can "rack the slide" without having a (loaded or not) magazine inserted. I know S&W recommends chambering a round that was, but I prefer loading that first round using the slide release, aka the slide stop, button. With my Shield, my thumb or fingers were not strong enough to release the slide that latter way until I'd shot maybe 75 rounds.
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I'm more concerned about how the round "somehow got turned around." Could the round have been inserted into the mag backwards or is round reversal a know issue with semi-autos? Also, Fiocchi JHP's are the only ammo I've ever had issues with (FTF) but never saw one do a 180.


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It's operator error. OP probably partially or fully had the ejection port covered with his hand as he was manipulating the slide. As the round came out it hit his hand and back into the gun.

The fact that it did a 180 is just luck. It could have just as easily oriented itself in any other direction.
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Thanks for all of the advise. I'll post when I've got my results. And Jiman that is probably what happened I can't remember EXACTLY though.

For those saying Fiocchi ammo works for some and not others I can see that. Some of my friends like it, some of them don't. Same goes for my Dad and his friends. Fortunately that wasn't the only brand of ammo I bought when I first purchased the pistol.
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...and one time I racked it and the round somehow turned itself around and when the slide tried to go back to its original position after I released it the round got logged somehow in the chamber/barrel with the primer facing the end of the gun instead of the other way around.
What I want to say will get me kicked off this forum, so I'll just do this...
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You could have simply refrained from posting at all.
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So, vaculatestar, how did things work out? Were you able to clear your Shield? Any damage?
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I'd also recommend discarding the round that got stuck, as rounds that are cycled may be compressed (i.e. bullet may be pushed into the case a bit) and that can cause unsafe pressure.
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No luck trying on my own. So instead of risking damaging the gun (further?) I am taking it to a smith in the morning. Thanks for all of the advise, I can tell that I'm really gonna enjoy being around this forum community.
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You could have simply refrained from posting at all.
Sorry, that's not an option...
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