Saw Wolf steel case ammo, box of 50 rd. for < $10 at AIM surplus, Middletown OH. Heard some discussion about whether steel case would jam but figured for $10, what the hell. Bought a box and ran it thru my 9c, no problems. At that price, think I'll stock up 3 or 4 boxes.

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I've ran a bit of it in the past, no complaints although there are plenty that will tell you this and that about it without any real experience. I can tell you I've had a few rounds where the primer was crushed in side ways, enough to go ***. Always give it a once over pretty much goes for any factory ammo. The only issue I ever ran into is the lacquer finish on the cases would bind and hang up in my Browning HP mags, pretty much all my own reloads these days. enjoy

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A few years ago I purchased a 500 round pack of the steel cases cheap wolf ammo at a price I couldn't turn down. It ran every gun i shot it just fine, I do not believe I had a single issue.

Never had any issues with it myself.

Never any issues.Not X-ring bullseye ammo l would take to Camp Perry but for 90% of the shooting most people do it is fine. I have used it for IDPA matches and for shooting steel and find it quite acceptable.Have also fired thousands of rounds of Wolf ammo through various sub guns from Uzi's to Thompsons with nary a problem. FWIW It has to meet SAMI specs or couldn't be sold. For the price if you do not reload its a good deal.

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Shot a lot of the Wolf stuff in the AR, never any problems.

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I know I may be way off base but, I've never bought any steel cased ammo because I was concerned that the steel cases might, after many rounds damage the barrels chamber. I'm sure it's just me. I also reload so I like getting the free brass.

I'd also prefer my steel extractor yanking on non steel cases. GARY

During the Second World War the bulk of 45 acp ammo produced was steel cased,the war department did not have any issues with it.

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My range forbids it, so no point in it for me. Also, my H&K VP9 explicitly voids the warranty if steel or aluminum case ammo is used.

No up side in it for me.

The VP voids warranty on steel case ammo? I just lost a bunch of respect for HK.

Interesting.

I shoot the steel and aluminum in my AK and have used aluminum in my hand guns with out issue. I'd run it in my guns as long as proper caliber. Shouldn't be an issue

From the VP9 user manual (I see nothing about voiding the warranty):

CAUTION: HK firearms are designed to function with quality, manufactured brasscased ammunition. Use of steel or aluminum-cased cartridges is not recommended and could adversely affect safe and reliable functioning. Use of cast-lead bullets is also not
recommended.

Is it steel CASED or steel JACKETED ammo that is banned? Steel jacketed I can understand, but not steel cased.

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Steel cased ammo works great in Commie guns since they were designed to use it. In higher quality arms its hit an miss. I had a friend that was buying a lot of the Wolf .223 when he first got into guns. I was at the range with him one time and he had a stoppage, I cleared it for him and discovered the cause was the lack of a flash hole in the steel case. He had a couple of those that particular day. It was easy to diagnose since the primers popped out, getting them out of the action was kind of a pain at the range.

So they just don't recommend it! That's different. Cause I find it odd that a company that has a reputation built on extreme reliability is going to fuss over steel cases. After all their HK45 is tested to be able to shoot out a lodged bullet and still function in a gun fight

I called and asked. They said the warranty would not cover damage related to steel or aluminum cases. The issue seems to be the stepped chamber. Long explanation I didn't have the technical expertise to understand, or the time to care to. Carry-away for me is "No"

My range forbids steel cases. Couldn't speak to steel in the bullets. Never had one, never used one, no need to ask.

I have shot wolf ammo in jus about every single gun I have ever owned without any problems. So it's a little bit dirtier than US made ammo but I clean my guns well anyways.

This. Not my top choice, but have used it for high volume training classes.

My wife's M&P 40c feeds Tula a steel case just fine.

I shoot some steel case in all of my center fire semi-autos, 9s, 40s, 45s and 223s. Never had an issue (except for as noted below). I also reload but like to keep a couple of boxes of all of the above for my trips out onto the country. Sometimes it is not practical to pick up my brass. In the summer there are things out there that take issue with me sticking my hand into and under bushes and rocks and in winter(like today),I do not have to feel bad about leaving a few steel cases in 6 inches of fresh snow. I have had issues with steel in 30 carbine, not in my Inland but with my Ruger revolver. Very difficult to extract/eject from the cylinder. The problem with the pistol ammo is that of late, the cost is higher than I can buy brass cased ammo. (Bummer) Still I do buy it when the price is right. As for being hard on the gun, I find that the 223 is a lot dirtier than most other ammo available and while not as robust as the AK platform the AR system is still pretty tough. And anyone that shoots ARs much should have a few extra ejectors, extractors and springs on hand anyway. GB

One of the ranges in my area has the same rule. No steel or aluminum cased ammo is allowed. They also have a rule that you must not sweep or pick up any brass. The stated purpose of these rules is for safety concerns, but they only have these rules so they can easily collect the brass and sell it. We all know there is nothing unsafe about using factory steel or aluminum cased ammo, and it's more dangerous to leave a bunch of spent brass on the ground than occasionally policing the area.

I use steel 95% of the time. The only problem I noticed is that the Sig P220 mags won't load to capacity. Can only get 4, 5 if I try hard and force it in. Otherwise all my guns shoot it no problem

The steel case isn't nearly as bad as what the bi-metal bullet does to your barrel.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/bras...el-cased-ammo/

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That's absolutely ridiculous. You can't collect your own brass THAT YOU PAID FOR???

I might be convinced that it'd be ok if you bought the ammo from them....maybe....but in general, that's a gouge.

Yea but that 50k rounds IN ONE DAY. You think it would be much better with brass/lead fmj?

Check your local Wally World.

They have been stocking Federal Aluminum cased 9mm FMJ for $9.97 per 50.00

Not as good as brass, but better than steel (IMO) and it's non magnetic.

My range does not allow any kind of ammo that attracts a magnet.

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