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Old 07-17-2015, 08:15 PM
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Bought a bodyguard 380, have not shot it yet but when I go to unload it, take magazine and pull back slide but the live round will not eject, it appears stuck no matter how hard slide is pulled back, etc. I have to physical push it to come out. Has anybody had this issue,

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Old 07-17-2015, 08:39 PM
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how did you load the round that's in the chamber? Did you put a loaded magazine in the gun and let the slide closing strip off a round from the magazine (this is how you're supposed to do it) or did you put a round into the chamber with your hand and then close the slide on it (this is how you're not supposed to do it). If you do it the second way, the extractor may not be engaging the round.
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:02 PM
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I loaded magazine and let the slide chamber the round. Every time I unload it the chamber round is stuck at the end of the slide at the firing pin location
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If it is every time, including when firing, you have a broken, missing, or nonfunctional extractor. The simplest problem would be a piece of junk under the extractor preventing it from engaging the case rim. It is also possible that you are riding the slide slowly home, causing the extractor to not engage the case rim. Grab the grip in one hand, the slide in the other, push the grip forward, yank the slide back, and let it fly into battery. If this doesn't work, you need the explore the issues I described.
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I loaded magazine and let the slide chamber the round. Every time I unload it the chamber round is stuck at the end of the slide at the firing pin location
This is a different scenario than the first post(at least in my mind). If the round is coming back with the slide but won't eject out of the port, then there is a problem with the ejector (which is different than the extractor) It may be that the pistol was assembled without the ejector, hard to imagine that but the round should be knocked off the extractor hook even when cycling the slide by hand. Can you post some pictures of your pistol looking into the open port of the slide? It might help diagnose the problem.

Since I don't have a Bodyguard, I looked up the owners manual at the S&W website, below are a couple of pictures, the blue arrow and circle in the first picture shows the ejector, make sure your pistol looks like that (minus the arrows of course )
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Old 07-18-2015, 12:30 AM
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Thanks, it does appear that the ejector is missing. I will have to see if previous owner took apart or what.

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Old 07-18-2015, 06:13 PM
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Mine will get caught with the round ball ammo just not enough room get coughs between extractor and barrel. Have to push it down out of empty mag chamber
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If the gun is used, then the extractor or ejector could be damaged or missing or there could be crud built up under the extractor which keeps it from grabbing the rim.
Regardless, it can be fixed by someone who knows what to do/ how to do it.
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Old 07-18-2015, 07:44 PM
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From your post . . it's used . . but you haven't shot Instead of using live ammo to play with . . I'd be using either snap caps or dummy rounds (casing & bullet only) to be checking the hand gun out. You are "learning" the gun and unfamiliar with ti . . . why take the chance of shooting yourself or someone else or putting a slug through a wall, etc.? Sorry to be such a "stickler" . . . but I've seen too many gunshot wounds due to carelessness. The place to try those things is at the range whee it can be pointed down range. IMHO

Your post is a little confusing . . . first it's stuck and you have to push it out . . . and then you say it is stuck at the end of the slide by the firing pin . . . which leads me to believe that you are loading and unloading it numerous times? If the pistol is used but "new to you" . . . you have no idea if there are other problems as well. The last thing you want is the cartridge stuck to the ejector and then slapping back into battery and possibly an accidental discharge.

It sounds fixable and probably isn't anything major . . but have a gunsmith check it out so that you know it is 100%.
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Found this thread after my new Bodyguard 380 I bought just last week had exactly this problem. It fires just fine and ejects spent casings. But if I drop out the cartridge and try to eject a live round in the chamber by working the slide the round does not eject. I compared my gun to the image posted above and sure enough the ejector is simply missing!! Very risky trying to remove a round manually. Plus it's actually quite difficult to free it up so that it drops down. Contacted S&W and have FedEx'd it back for repair/replacement. How the heck does a gun get shipped without this ejector?? Anyway, thanks for this thread because I was at a loss for what I was doing wrong.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:27 PM
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There are certain brands of live ammo that will not eject from my BG. I quit using those and have had no problems.
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:39 PM
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Following up on my earlier "me too" post. I sent my BG380 that would not eject a live round after dropping the mag and sliding the rack back to S&W (spent rounds ejected fine). After 7 weeks it was returned today and now ejects live rounds without the mag inserted just like it should. No explanation of what they did (same serial number so I didn't just gets a new gun) so no confirmation of what the problem was. Happy they fixed it so won't complain that it had a significant problem out of the box. I really like this little gun for CC so want it to work as it should.
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I also purchased an M & P Bodyguard as a pocket duty backup based on hi recommendation from colleagues. It too was missing the ejector out of the box. Extractor worked fine. Back at Smith for repair although I have asked for replacement. Doubt that I will ever carry it though. How could QC allow a weapon out of the factory without an extractor? Guess I'll go with a Glock 42.
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Old 09-03-2017, 03:11 PM
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How could QC allow a weapon out of the factory without an extractor? Guess I'll go with a Glock 42.
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Same way Glock sent out all their Gen 4 pistols with bad Recoil Springs and had to do a "Recall" Which they called an Upgrade!
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All manufacturers have had problems with springs,mags etc. That is something I can deal with. What I find unacceptable is a MISSING part that should be detected by visual inspection during QC. My M&P Bodyguard was missing the ejector out of the box and I am not the only one either.
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Old 09-03-2017, 04:06 PM
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Sadly bad/weird stuff sometimes happens and what happened to the OP & others is bad & scary!

Long Story short, couple of years ago in late fall bought 4 guns in 3 weeks NIB and cleaned and lubed them all ASAP but just did not find time to shoot the last purchase a FN 5.7 pistol before it snowed etc.. so decided to wait till spring shooting it, did cycle manually a mag loaded with different types of ammo and was fine.

Decided to put gun up for a few months and put a squirt of CLP down the barrel then slapped mag in and chambered a round, about 3-4 months later getting ready to take it shooting so wanted to take it apart etc.. dropped mag and I knew I still had 1 in chamber, so I racked slide and nothing came out, same 2nd time as well as 3rd time.

I knew I had a round in chamber racked it again and it flew out the 4th time, which was very scary so always visually check chamber.

Never had a issue with gun and al that could have happened was the CLP over a period of 3-4 months created an Air-Seal between bullet & Chamber and I actually heard a Whosssh when it flew out!

Never had anything like this happ before or after and have owned guns for 50 yrs. and like many have tons of them.
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its really a shame that S&W has been getting QC issues like this. I think they are cranking out mass production guns too quickly. the QC checks are not working . I like my BG380. but I wish that the QC was better, Mine had to go back in the first year for roll pins coming loose in the frame.
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