I kind of kind of like the loaded chamber indicator that California imposed on my shield .40 caliber. I was about to order a do-dadd to remove it and decided to leave it alone.

Got one on my ruger LC9 and on Springfield Xds40.Not an issue on either one the M &P 40 doesn't. Have one

It's your gun, it's your choice. I choose differently.

I've owned way fewer semis than revolvers over the years . . but a few of the semis I've owned have had loaded chamber indicators. To be perfectly honest . . . I've never paid any attention to them one way or another. Not being "flip" about it . . . I just always treat the handgun as though there IS on in the tube unless I've locked the slide back, dropped the mag and cleared the piece. But then I'm a little weird about "counting shots" as well. I was trained many, many years ago on revolvers to count the rounds going in to the cylinder and to count the as fired. I do the same when loading mags and shooting semis. I'm amazed sometimes at the range when I see folks that don't follow that practice whether it be a wheelmen or a semi. Whenever I work with a "new shooter" - that's one of the first thing I hammer in to their head - count your rounds in and out - then treat the handgun as if it is always loaded unless you've cleared it.

They're not that bad. The SD-series and Shields for Kalifornia have them. I usually tell folks that it's a tactile reassurance the piece is loaded in diminished light.

I also like the mag safety. Many lawmen have been saved by it...

I have no issue with either.

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I really like the one on my Five-seveN. It's just a small, unobtrusive metal piece. It's very visible, yet doesn't hinder sighting. I also like the BG380's method.

Hello fellow weirdo...you are not alone

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Totally useless bit of kit. A half *****ed appeasement attempt.

....but if you are going to impose something this idea at least makes sense. I would much rather choose for myself, though. Won't be long until they make a gun that is too safe to fire.

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Why would anyone care about where the extractor is located or what color its sides are painted? Simple. It's a visible reminder that the firearms makers have to occasionally bow down to the Feds. Every businessman that breathes has to do the same in some form or other or get hounded out of business. I look at it differently. AR-15 makers got to keep on making AR's all through the "assault weapons ban" by merely grinding off the bayonet lug. Who looked like a fool in that deal? When did you last see a bayonet on an AR, civilian or military? Smith & Wesson bought indulgence from the idiot Clinton administration by the simple expedient of a safety, operable only by a key that gets lost or thrown away. Who looked silly? Only the chattering class that is offended by clumsy and easily deceived government intrusion. My P.08 Luger has a loaded chamber indicator with the catchy German word "Geladen" (loaded). Don't mind it a bit. It taught me one of the few German words I know. My Walther P-38 and PPKS have elaborate little loaded chamber indicators. Never heard of anybody railing against the Weimar Republic or the Third Reich for their politically correct firearms design intrusion.