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Old 01-04-2016, 04:53 AM
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Question Installing APEX Flat Faced FSS Trigger on M&P9 CORE, Do I need the APEX RAM as well?

Ordered the APEX Flat Faced FSS Trigger Kit to install on my M&P9 Pro Series CORE 5" (no mag disconnect or safety model, Jan. 2014 model).

Saw that many guys install the APEX RAM (reset assist mechanism) for a better tactile reset on their M&P's ... but didn't know if something in this kit helped with the reset already and didn't need this?

Or is the CORE compatible with the RAM?

So in closing ... Do I need it and will it work on my specific M&P model???

Thanks so much for any help or info you can provide.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:21 AM
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Absolutely you should install RAM. Not doing so would be like putting unleaded gasoline in your M5. For the money you cannot go wrong. It will bring your reset down to almost nothing. I did the trigger upgrade a couple of weeks ago and the RAM was a nice complement to the process.
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The RAM does not work with some of the most recent M&P models, nor is it necessary IMO. Not sure when the cutoff occurred, but check with Apex before purchase for your gun.
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Old 01-04-2016, 02:26 PM
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Absolutely you should install RAM. Not doing so would be like putting unleaded gasoline in your M5. For the money you cannot go wrong. It will bring your reset down to almost nothing. I did the trigger upgrade a couple of weeks ago and the RAM was a nice complement to the process.
Was it on an M&P CORE?

I was told this RAM does not work in some of the newer model M&P sear housing blocks.
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Old 01-04-2016, 02:40 PM
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The RAM does not work with some of the most recent M&P models, nor is it necessary IMO. Not sure when the cutoff occurred, but check with Apex before purchase for your gun.
So i called APEX and they asked a coupe questions about my CORE ... if it has a polymer plug in the back of the frame right in front of the rear roll pin and if it was square or round.

I do have a plug installed and it is round

According to her with that info my firearm would take the RAM

She said it is of course not necessary but with a lower weight competition spring on the FSS kit I would lose that tactile feel and sound on the reset ... this would just bring back that feel and sound a bit she said.

Now the question is do I really need it?
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Found out here is way to see if you have the sear block that will take a RAM from APEX.

Picture Below ..............
The part on the far left is the one that is RAM compatible (although in the image it's missing the ejector). Look online for Apex DCAEK install videos and remove just the Sear Housing Block and examine yours. This is by far the easiest part of the installation process. You may also be able to judge it without removing the SHB. You'll notice in the picture the middle and right side SHBs have a little extra nub of guide rail just behind the ejector base. If your gun has this then you have a newer, non-RAM compatible SHB. Only the one without the extra nub and the big hole through it is compatible (the RAM goes through that hole). The slight exterior changes to the SHB in the newer guns prevents them from being installed in older guns and vice versa.

Also you need to make sure you frame has the round insert with the notch and like arrow thing around it as well ... that is the only frame that will take a RAM as well.
The one with a square insert and also anything with the safety lever a RAM will not work in your gun.

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Old 01-04-2016, 06:54 PM
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I found mine is in fact the one on the left and can take a RAM.

They make two different models of the RAM as well ... one that is made for an M&P that Has the mag disconnect feature ... that RAM will keep that feature intact.
Then there is a second one as well that is made for an M&P that Does Not have the mag disconnect feature.
Mine does not so I had to get the RAM that is made for one that doesn't have that.

I placed my order one just now to install at the same time I install my new Flat Faced FSS Trigger Kit!

According to the girl at APEX if you can take the RAM to do so as when installing a lighter competition type trigger you tend to lose all audible and tactile reset ... the RAM will give back what you lose in moving to the Comp. trigger ... Plus the M&P Blows for reset anyway so it needs it regardless.

Anyway just sharing what I found for those in the future who may be curious about this and how to find out if you need it, if your M&P can actually take it and what one you need if so.

Thanks so much.
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I installed the FSS trigger kit with the red aluminum flat faced trigger in my Performance Center Ported Core. It definitely helped the trigger but it still had no audible or feelable reset. I put in the RAM and wow!! I could feel the reset and hear it. It's still pretty quiet but you can definitely hear it. I just wanted to be able to feel it since I can't hear really well when I shoot because of ear protection. I would definitely get one!!
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I installed the FSS trigger kit with the red aluminum flat faced trigger in my Performance Center Ported Core. It definitely helped the trigger but it still had no audible or feelable reset. I put in the RAM and wow!! I could feel the reset and hear it. It's still pretty quiet but you can definitely hear it. I just wanted to be able to feel it since I can't hear really well when I shoot because of ear protection. I would definitely get one!!
Ya I saw someone else said the same thing after they installed their trigger that there was absolutely almost zero audible and tactile reset after the new FSS trigger install.
And said they installed the RAM and it was Amazing how they could feel it and hear it No Problem.
I am glad not my M&P CORE is capable of taking the RAM so I can now have a killer new APEX trigger along with solid loud reset with the RAM.

Thanks so much for the help and info and hopefully this thread will help out someone else int he future curious about this.
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