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Old 03-19-2016, 07:15 PM
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I would like to know from the loyal M&P 9 users, which hollow point would you recommend? Thanx
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I asked the same question about a week ago. Check the "Ammo" section of the forum.

Good 9mm hollow point? Online ammo?

I want to try R.I.P. But can't find any in 9mm.
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Federal premium law enforcement tactical 124 grain hst hp is probably the best in my opinion. That's what I carry. Item# p9hst1.
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I prefer Federal HST 147 gr (standard pressure), but I'm also quite happy with the same round in 124 gr.

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Federal premium law enforcement tactical 124 grain hst hp is probably the best in my opinion. That's what I carry. Item# p9hst1.
Out of curiosity, why 124 vs. 115 or 147?
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Out of curiosity, why 124 vs. 115 or 147?
The 9mm Luger was originally made for the 124gr bullet. The 115gr bullet came about to save metal in wartime. The 147gr was designed for subsonic shooting with suppressors.
Therefore the 124gr HP is most likely to work in all barrel lengths (note the OP failed to mention whether he has a 3", 4" or 5" barrel), be readily available, simple to reload with many powders, and does not get hinky about slow twist barrels (like a light handload with 147gr).

Depending on specific guns and tastes, usually a suitable load can be found with any of the common weights.
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My shied likes federal premium HST 147 and/or 124 gr.
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#1. Federal HST in "any" weight. Then I use either Hornady Critical Duty +P 135 gr. Or Speer Gold Dot 124 gr. standard pressure or +P. We enjoy shooting milk jugs filled with water in order to "trap" the bullets to check expansion. Also to see how many jugs they penetrate. Actually, we haven't had any "failures to expand" in ANY 9mm factory hollow point ammo. Hope this helps. It's a good excuse to buy ammo in order to "test" em!
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Just to add, it has to feed and cycle 100%, be accurate for you and with your particular pistol, and available in enough quantity so you can practice with it. A documented record of effectiveness (usually from LE data) doesn't hurt either. Any expanding bullet from a major US ammo manufacturer in the 115-124 gr range will likely suffice.
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Federal P9HST2 147gr standard pressure in all my 9's. Very accurate and greater expansion than lighter grain bullets. Only available through mail order, AFAIK.
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Federal premium law enforcement tactical 124 grain hst hp is probably the best in my opinion. That's what I carry. Item# p9hst1.

This is the one. Check out shootingthebull 410 on YouTube
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The 5 Best 9mm Self-defense Loads - OutdoorHub
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The 147 grain is a nice round but has less penetration because of the expansion so it will not penetrate as much. So it's your choice. More penetration or more expansion.
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All of these have done well in the FBI tests. Pick one that is reliable in your gun and never worry about it again.

9mm

Barnes XPB 115gr HP (35515) such as loaded by Cor-Bon (DPX09115)
Winchester Partition Gold 124gr JHP (RA91P)
Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
Winchester Ranger Bonded 124 gr +P JHP (RA9BA)
Winchester Ranger-T 127gr JHP +P+ (RA9TA)
Winchester Ranger-T 147gr JHP (RA9T)
Winchester Bonded 147gr JHP (RA9B/Q4364)
Speer Gold Dor 124gr JHP
Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP +P (53617)
Speer Gold Dot 147gr JHP (53619)
Remington Golden Saber 124 gr +P JHP bonded (GSB9MMD)
Remington Golden Saber 147gr JHP (GS9MMC)
Federal Tactical 124gr JHP (LE9T1)
Federal Tactical 135gr JHP +P (LE9T5)
Federal HST 147gr JHP (P9HST2)
Federal HST 124gr JHP +P (P9HST3)
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I thought this was a helpful guide with a wide range of brands tested.

Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data
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my criteria.

1.availability
2. reliability
3. accuracy
4. affordability

virtually any premium load on the market will suffice if it meets those criteria.
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My wife and I carry only Federal 124 gr. HST bullets in our Shield's.. Have had zero problems with them and accuracy is excellent..

JMHO

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Winchester PDX1 124 grain +p bonded.
same as ranger T bonded and availbable at wal marts nationwide. 1200 fps good bullets!
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The newer M&P's have a 1 in 10 twist. All the guys I shoot IDPA and USPSA with use 147 grain ammo, which gives the tightest 25 yard groups. The slower the twist, the lighter the bullet. Older M&P's used 1 in 18.75 and shot better with 115 grain ammo.
For self defense, I carry Federal HST, 147 grain +P.
Here are some penetration and expansion test results with photos:

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The newer M&P's have a 1 in 10 twist. All the guys I shoot IDPA and USPSA with use 147 grain ammo, which gives the tightest 25 yard groups. The slower the twist, the lighter the bullet. Older M&P's used 1 in 18.75 and shot better with 115 grain ammo.
For self defense, I carry Federal HST, 147 grain +P.
Here are some penetration and expansion test results with photos:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....f-Defense-Ammo

Handgun Self-Defense Ammunition - Ballistic Testing Data
So, if I have a M&P 9mm full size that was made on Oct 2015, I should be using 147 grains, not 124? I'm confused.
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So, if I have a M&P 9mm full size that was made on Oct 2015, I should be using 147 grains, not 124? I'm confused.
I tried just about every brand and bullet weight out there and had the tightest groups with American Eagle 147 grain, 4-5 inches, off a pistol rest, at 25 yards, which was better than the 10 inch groups with other ammo. I fitted an Apex barrel and now get 1- sub 2 inch groups off a rest at 25 yards.
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I don't see a big difference in group size between the 124 and 147 HST that I shoot bt I do like the recoil pulse of the 147 better. It seems easier to control during rapid fire than its lighter counterpart.
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So much ammo to test, so little time!
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