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Old 04-12-2016, 03:10 AM
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After waiting about a month, I finally got the PC Shield!
Already have the regular version, but the PC just kept taunting me..

So, took it to the range today and put about 500 rounds (124gr Blazer Brass and Lawman ) thru it!

Had no issues until I tried the Federal HST! The gun was obviously dirty after 500rds, and I wanted to test with JHPs. The first one went bang, but the next had a FTF !

So, cleared it, and tried a few more HSTs.. Of the 20 I put thru the PC, I had 3 FTF issues Tried a few more ( ~50 ) more FMJ Blazer and no malfunctions! The HSTs are 124gr ( no +p )

What gives ?

Otherwise, the PC shot true, and the HiViz sights felt great. The PC version is def. worth the wait !!

Compared to the regular Shield, the trigger ( for me ) is night and day! The PC's trigger is just awesome! I tried both, and the difference is substantial!!

I also noticed a decent difference in muzzle flip. It was much easier to get back on target with the PC

All in all, I'm very happy with the purchase and the only issue that might hold me back from EDC'ing this pistol would be repeated FTF with defense/carry ammo !

Going to try some Hornady and Gold Dots in a couple of days and update my findings...
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:55 AM
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I've had no trouble with my PC but I have not tried that many different brands of ammo. Maybe it will get better with break in. If not I would call S&W. The PC models are supposed to be gone through and be top notch when they leave the factory. Oh yeah, I really like mine.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:00 AM
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Have any of you tried firing the ported Shield in the dark? I had heard that the flash was a bit blinding.

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Old 04-12-2016, 10:32 AM
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Have any of you tried firing the ported Shield in the dark? I had heard that the flash was a bit blinding.

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I'm not the OP and I don't have any experience with the ported Shield myself, but last year Julie Golob of the S&W Shooting Team used one at the IDPA BUG Nationals where there were a few low-light stages.

She was using full-power defensive ammo and she claims that the flash was not too distracting.

Watching the video it didn't seem like the flash was much more than a non-ported short barrel pistol, but different ammo might have different results, of course.

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Old 04-12-2016, 11:28 AM
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My primary concern with ported guns has always been the possibility of hot gases being vented into the eyes/face when firing from a ECQ or retention position.

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From all the videos I have seen the flash is so fast even the camera can't catch it every time. Every one that has shot one says its not a problem. I have not shot mine in the dark but I can say its not a problem in low light.
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Old 04-12-2016, 11:30 AM
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My primary concern with ported guns has always been the possibility of hot gases being vented into the eyes/face when firing from a ECQ or retention position.

Have you tried firing from various retentions positions?
Why would you want to and with the exception of LEOs it probably will never happen in any encounter I may have. I have carried for over 30 years and it not even come close to happening.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:08 PM
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And you're basing that statement on what?

I've spent the last 3 decades training Officer's and working with PD's on their DT programs. As such we've spent a lot of time not only preparing and going over what they encounter as LEO's, but also how various civilian defense scenarios occur and ECQ scenarios are a relatively common occurrence.

Everyone can train how they see fit, but I highly recommend at least having a basic working knowledge of ECQ methods.
I base that on MY experience and I did state with the exception of LEOs. And I am an experience combat veteran. You have made it clear of your bias toward ported guns, that's cool so If you don't like them by all means do not ever buy one but let the ones who like them enjoy them. I have 13 hand guns and I enjoy them all including my ported M&P. You have a very pleasant rest of the day.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:43 PM
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Had no issues until I tried the Federal HST! The gun was obviously dirty after 500rds, and I wanted to test with JHPs. The first one went bang, but the next had a FTF !

So, cleared it, and tried a few more HSTs.. Of the 20 I put thru the PC, I had 3 FTF issues Tried a few more ( ~50 ) more FMJ Blazer and no malfunctions! The HSTs are 124gr ( no +p )

What gives ?
I believe you answered your own question. Plus porting, almost by definition, helps foul a semi-auto quicker.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:08 PM
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I noticed that my PC gets dirtier much quicker than my Glock. It is the nature of the beast.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:24 PM
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I have tested HST 124's in both my current Shields with no issues and one of those is a Ported PC. It is the defense round I carry in all my 9's. As far as issues with the porting when firing I have shot mine from every position I know. I did not shoot with the gun directly under my chin. Other than feeling a little heat at the upper chest tucked position I did not experience any difficulties or discomfort.

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Old 04-16-2016, 12:22 PM
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Someone can buy a ported handgun if they want, but if personal defense is the primary objective, I would avoid ported models and think it best to reserve their use to range and sport only. You can find opinions advocating for or against just about any position or perspective on the internet, but I would seriously consider heeding the words of some of the most distinguished and recognized experienced leaders in the industry.

The biggest negative thing I see with the porting is that if you have to fire from a retention position, it will blast hot gases and debris up toward your eyes. That's not just a distraction; it could cause permanent vision damage, and at the worst possible time. - Massad Ayoob

I donít like ported barrels on self-defense guns. The clearest danger is the risk of hot, explosive gases vented up into the shooters eyes and face. - Michael de Bethencourt

Ported barrels can be downright dangerous when fired from retention. I have personally seen where what appeared to be part of the jacket embed itself into the face of one of our officers during retention training. Even if no hard particles leave the port, the gas definitely is directed straight into your face.- Mike Moore, Gunsite Academy Instructor


I have zero use for the comped Glocks. I have seen people injured from shooting them from retention and not getting the gun canted outboard enough before pulling the trigger. - Chuck Haggard

I do know one thing about the retention position. It sucks when one is using a ported gun!!! - Marty Hayes


Compensated Glocks--retention shooting is miserable, flash is increased, and I am aware of one organization that had reliability issues with them due to debris build-up. - Dr. Gary Roberts aka DocGKR

A thorough explanation as to why porting should be avoided on a defensive firearm... Snub Training – Ported Barrels |

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Old 04-16-2016, 02:54 PM
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Someone can buy a ported handgun if they want, but if personal defense is the primary objective, I would avoid ported models and think it best to reserve their use to range and sport only. You can find opinions advocating for or against just about any position or perspective from anonymous posters on the internet who may have little to no experience in regards to the topic at hand. You can choose to listen to them or heed the words of some of the most distinguished and recognized experienced leaders in the industry. I would recommend the later.

The biggest negative thing I see with the porting is that if you have to fire from a retention position, it will blast hot gases and debris up toward your eyes. That's not just a distraction; it could cause permanent vision damage, and at the worst possible time. - Massad Ayoob

I donít like ported barrels on self-defense guns. The clearest danger is the risk of hot, explosive gases vented up into the shooters eyes and face. - Michael de Bethencourt

Ported barrels can be downright dangerous when fired from retention. I have personally seen where what appeared to be part of the jacket embed itself into the face of one of our officers during retention training. Even if no hard particles leave the port, the gas definitely is directed straight into your face.- Mike Moore, Gunsite Academy Instructor


I have zero use for the comped Glocks. I have seen people injured from shooting them from retention and not getting the gun canted outboard enough before pulling the trigger. - Chuck Haggard

I do know one thing about the retention position. It sucks when one is using a ported gun!!! - Marty Hayes


Compensated Glocks--retention shooting is miserable, flash is increased, and I am aware of one organization that had reliability issues with them due to debris build-up. - Dr. Gary Roberts aka DocGKR

A thorough explanation as to why porting should be avoided on a defensive firearm... https://snubtraining.wordpress.com/2...orted-barrels/

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Old 04-16-2016, 03:23 PM
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Old 04-16-2016, 03:51 PM
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All good things said by all. I agree about the retention position for self-defense. I'm a retired LEO and would use that position if required and it might well be instinctive. I have a non-ported 9 Shield and I'm happy with it and now I don't need to purchase the PC version. Enjoy your handguns. BTW I've shot quite a few rounds of PerFecta 115 Grain 9mm Luger, Tulammo USA, Inc. and that stuff provides a nice bright white flash in a lighted range out of my 9 Shield, let alone in a dimmed light ported environment. Shoot safe everyone.

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Old 04-16-2016, 06:44 PM
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mr x please never buy a ported gun. I have a suspesion you won't be happy with one. To save your self money and heart ache just don't do it. Personally I don't care either way but I would feel bad if I didn't advise you on this. So please don't do it.

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Old 04-16-2016, 11:31 PM
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Irregardless, are the men I quoted wrong?
I believe the ports on the shield are not directed completely upward. At least on my M&P CORE they directed in a V shape. This is a change from most ported guns. It would not direct hot gasses directly upward towards the face unless you were holding the gun wonky.
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I believe the ports on the shield are not directed completely upward. At least on my M&P CORE they directed in a V shape. This is a change from most ported guns. It would not direct hot gasses directly upward towards the face unless you were holding the gun wonky.
And that's the point. When shooting from a 'typical' standing retention position, the gun is on the side of the body and will be canted slightly using the thumb as an offset to allow the slide to cycle. In an ECQ scenario there's really no telling what position you could have to fire from. For example, it's possible to have to bring the gun out across the body and fire such as in a car-jacking situation or in particular, grappling entanglements.

Here's an example of a pretty standard standing retention firing position...starting at 1:30


From a student who took a ported Glock to a Shivworks(Southnarc/Craig Douglas) ECQC course...

"Run my GLOCK19C during livefire and having some issues with the muzzle blast during several positions. I have to switched it to a regular Glock19 after my nose and mouth was bleeding."

Source- AAR: Shivworks ECQC Sacramento 10/5-7/12

ECQ scenarios and having to fire from a compressed or retention position while entangled or otherwise engaged with an assailant are very common occurrences during civilian defense occurrences. Anyone is free to disagree and dispute that as fact, but the stats demonstrate otherwise as does practical experience and common sense.

With that being said, is the possibilty of vented gas from a ported handgun causing affecting vision by making contact with the eyes, the primary concern in an actual defense scenario? - Absolutely not...and I never said it was, but it is nonetheless enough of a tangible potential problem that it should still be a consideration(albeit somewhat of a relatively minor one compared to other factors)and is easily remedied by simply selecting a non-ported model as pretty much every single personal defense instructor recommends.

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Old 04-17-2016, 10:38 AM
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Old 04-17-2016, 11:16 AM
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Old 04-17-2016, 05:10 PM
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There is no shortage of experts or "what if" scenarios. If I paid attention to all of them I would be on a thorazine drip bottle. I could get a face full of hot gasses if my gun went off while picking my nose. Being prepared and always being aware of your circumstances and surroundings will do more to protect you than anything else.
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First off, congrats to you, M5Rahul on your new pistol.
Completely unrelated to the OP, but I believe most any
experienced trainer is going to validate misterX's assertions in this thread. We might not like it, but the "danger" is what it is. I believe even S&W, in the back of the manual, agrees with him also. Plus, it states that you shouldn't even chamber a round with your hand over the ports. Kinda tricky on a pistol as small as the Shield.
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:44 PM
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First off, congrats to you, M5Rahul on your new pistol.
Completely unrelated to the OP, but I believe most any
experienced trainer is going to validate misterX's assertions in this thread. We might not like it, but the "danger" is what it is. I believe even S&W, in the back of the manual, agrees with him also. Plus, it states that you shouldn't even chamber a round with your hand over the ports. Kinda tricky on a pistol as small as the Shield.
We're all free(so far) to buy what we want, but we don't need to ignore
potential dangers associated with that choice. Ported pistols make dandy range and "fun" guns though.
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IMO, the ported shield is a "hype" pistol. Meaning the sales were dropping on the shield. So they had to hype it up a little. Just like when they introduced the NS version of the Shield. Sales dropped, so they hyped it up a little more. Watch what happens next. After sales drop again, u will see a NS version of the PC shield......Its S&W idea of making more money off an old design. At least until they come up with something fresh from the drawing bored.

Why do u think they were quick to stop shipping out the factory 9mm barrel to distributers once they learned we were converting the .40 to 9mm. Obviously they knew the barrel would kill their sales on the Shield 9mm.

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Old 04-18-2016, 07:18 PM
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:24 PM
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I'd rather not offer an opinion about the merits of a ported self defense handgun, myself never having owned or even fired one. However, I recently watched a You Tube review of the PC Shield by hickok45, whose opinion I would give a lot of credence to. His review of the PC Shield is actually a very solid review of the Shield platform in general:


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Yeah and mr x can quit worrying about me and my ported barrel and start sleeping again. I bought a Sig P938 SAS with night sights yesterday and if it works out at the range I will probably be carrying it. Life is good.

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Old 04-21-2016, 10:45 AM
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I bought both a PC 9mm and a PC .40 cal. Have had no issues with the 9mm but had to send the .40 back to S&W with my notes on failures to feed. S&W cleaned up the ramp and tweaked some other things and I have had no FTF issues since.

I also live out in the country and have fired the PCs at night just to test the flash for myself. I could not tell a difference firing a regular shield and a PC shield at night with respect to flash.

Also if I have to ever use my carry PC shield in close quarters I believe that any flash burns will be soon forgotten if I live through the battle.
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Yeah there are too many hand wringers and the sky is falling crowd that want to dictate what other people should want in a gun. They would do well to manage their own problems in my opinion.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:38 PM
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I bought both a PC 9mm and a PC .40 cal. Have had no issues with the 9mm but had to send the .40 back to S&W with my notes on failures to feed. S&W cleaned up the ramp and tweaked some other things and I have had no FTF issues since.

I also live out in the country and have fired the PCs at night just to test the flash for myself. I could not tell a difference firing a regular shield and a PC shield at night with respect to flash.

Also if I have to ever use my carry PC shield in close quarters I believe that any flash burns will be soon forgotten if I live through the battle.
Well said Jack. Too many people cling on the THEORY that flash has to blind you at night because it is light being forced out the ports of the gun. You have practical first hand experience to show that this is simply not the case. And I agree with you on the gas issue.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:39 PM
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I have owned two standard S&W Shields in 9mm. I really hated the triggers. So rather than pay to get better trigger I just traded one and sold the other. I tried out the P/C model at LGS and I was sold. As far as the porting goes I can't really tell the difference. I own 4 other handguns that at ported, one is magna-ported. A S&W model 629 Trail Boss. Highly polished stainless with 2 1/2 in barrel.
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I have owned two standard S&W Shields in 9mm. I really hated the triggers. So rather than pay to get better trigger I just traded one and sold the other. I tried out the P/C model at LGS and I was sold. As far as the porting goes I can't really tell the difference. I own 4 other handguns that at ported, one is magna-ported. A S&W model 629 Trail Boss. Highly polished stainless with 2 1/2 in barrel.
Yeah, I would say that 629 with the 2 1/2 barrel better be ported.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:04 PM
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I'm still with my original shield .40 and a factory 9mm barrel. Both calibers in 1 weapon, cant beat it.
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Also if I have to ever use my carry PC shield in close quarters I believe that any flash burns will be soon forgotten if I live through the battle.
In all probability... yes, but then again, if it's the eyes, maybe not.

Burning gases are capable of inflicting severe wounds to any flesh that is nearby, and the jet that comes out of the compensator can contain small particles of combustion material. These particles can be forced into an unprotected eye, causing severe pain and sometimes permanent damage. For this reason, compensators aren't usually recommended on self-defense guns, where they might be fired in close-quarters.

- Grant Cunningham: Gun Digest Shooter's Guide to Handguns

Guns that are magna-ported, hybrid-ported or otherwise compensated in such a way that they vent gases and gunpowder particles upward, The burning powder particles and hot gases can strike the shooter in the eyes, temporarily blinding them, disorienting them, and possibly causing permanent loss of some degree of vision.

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Old 04-22-2016, 07:28 AM
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You really do have a great hatred for ported barrels don't you. Sad.
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I wonder if they figured out something S&W hasn't?

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Well that's not so .I have a 23c and a gen 2 17c.I also know several of my friends that have ported Glocks. I have fired at least 2000 rounds out of the 23c and nothing has gotten in my eyes or burned me anywhere. The blasts do not go strait up, they go out in 45 degree angles ,UP and AWAY from the body.So does the shield. I have also fired the Glock in close quarter drills with my arm tucked tightly to my body . Now I will add that of course I had on shooting safety glasses ( I'm not stupid) . But I felt nothing any different than shooting any other firearm in the same manner. The muzzle blast of my S&W 4516 is a lot worse.In my opinion the porting helps with getting off faster 2nd and 3rd shots keeping them on target.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:32 AM
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News Flash : So, shot another 250 rounds FMJ, then 100 rounds (mix of Federal HST, Speer Gold Dots and Hornady Critical Defense ) and not a single malfunction !!

All is well in my lil PC land

Now, back to the merits and faults of deploying the ported pistols in SD
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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The only reason I would not go with a ported is the 35fps to 40fps loss of velocity.
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OMG, i wish people would just give it a rest about the shield ported guns.
What in the h.e.l.l do you think people did when they carried revolvers.
Talk about abusive blast... the shield porting is NOTHING compared to revolver flash.

And all this bull about OMG MY BULLETS ARE GOING TO GO SLOWER...
REALLY...???? Todays ammo is soooo much more effective & efficient.

PLEASE, give it a rest, good god.

And to "Mister X", quoting old stories/sayings, from years gone by, that some old comments from whatever guru, that dog wont hunt. Some of those names mentioned within those quotes, they`re OLD theories, old guns, old people, old writers. Things are far different today. Get over it.

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I'd rather not offer an opinion about the merits of a ported self defense handgun, myself never having owned or even fired one. However, I recently watched a You Tube review of the PC Shield by hickok45, whose opinion I would give a lot of credence to. His review of the PC Shield is actually a very solid review of the Shield platform in general:
There are FAR better people giving gun reviews than hickok45.
Hickok45 just likes to show you how good he can shoot... nobody really cares.
Hickok gets paid, gets free ammo, free guns from buds gunshop...so that they can get plugged for free.

Sootch00 and JustinOpinion do FARRRRRR better on reviews.
You`ll get alot more technical things out of Sootch00 & JustinOpinion.
And Sootch00 gets his test guns right from S&W, not from a mom&pop gunshop.

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