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Old 08-15-2018, 11:37 PM
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BG .380 warm months. pocket carry in Remora. cool months, Sig P239 9mm in Wright OWB. if conditions are right, my BG .380 in Wright OWB.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:17 AM
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M&P 2.0 9mm 4.25" for duty
M&P 9c Gen 1 for plain clothes
M&P Shield Gen 1 9mm off duty
Ruger LCP always

Just waiting to see if S&W re-makes the BG .380. That might replace my LCP.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:35 AM
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Shield 45 most days.
Glock 19 when going to the city (ATL)
Ruger SP101 if I wear cowboy boots.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:36 AM
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Either a Sig 365
A S&W 340M&P
A Seacamp 380
In the car a Sig 320 Compact
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:42 AM
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This is an interesting thread. It's educational to learn what others carry and why they choose to do so. It allows us to consider things of which we may not have thought. We can utilize that information in whatever manner we see fit.

Personally, I carry various configurations and sizes of M&Ps, situation dependent. I will carry a BG380, M&Pc with CT grip (most often), Shield, Compact 2.0 (least often) and FS w/red dot. I own a P365 and am convinced, in my opinion, it is an "ideal" carry gun. Mine has been flawless; but, I will admit, the condemnations written about all over the internet have caused me to hesitate in making it my carry gun.

As usual we have the usual absurdity that makes some of these discussions "political like" talk whereby, in order to justify our own choices, we feel the need to impute non-existant justifications to others who make other choices for legitimate reasons.

"People who carry revolvers believe they will always have one stop shots". Really? That's why? What an absurd assertion.

"People who carry multiple magazines just want to rely on spray and pray". Really? That's their plan? Give me a break.

It goes on and on. The fact is, most people make their choices based on what are, to them, legitimate reasons and their analysis of their situation and the state of the world as they see it. If I disagree with them and choose to do differently, it doesn't make them wrong.

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Old 08-16-2018, 09:44 AM
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In the "old days" I had lots of gun choices, and lots of calibers.

It's really hard to carry anything larger than a 1911 concealed, and having all that other ammo became a chore. Try carrying a long barelled .44 mag in the summertime, or a cowboy long colt .45 with shorts and a T shirt. And that extra ammo is really heavy!

About 5 or so years back, I decided to get more organized, and keep what is really more practical, and get rid of the rest.

I decided that 9mm, and .357/.38 spl were gonna be my choice.

Yes, I still have lots of .22 stuff, a lil .32 Tomcat, and the aforementioned .380, and 1911 - but really moved to full size 9s for fun shooting and Zombie stopping, and Compact 9s for carry.

I'm very comfortable with this decision, as the technology of ammo has skyrocketed in the 9mm and .380 ammo, making them very formidable stoppers. It's kinda nice having some of those cannons gone, and I really didn't need those .40 autos, or 10mms.The 9mms and the .45ACP kinda covered them, and I don't regret not having all that BIG ammo any longer.

On the plus side, everything I have gets used more regularly now, and maintenance is less intense with a lot more stainless stuff!

Another addition this past year to my rifle and shotgun cabinet, has been my Ruger AR, basically as a SHTF backup. And, a 1000 round box of .223 or 5.56 aint that big! Even my rifles are kinda standardized now, in .357, .22, and 5.56, plus various shotguns. Gone are the BIG rifles, that seldom got used!

Like I said, I am an accumulator - and even though my stash has shrunken considerably, I do like choices - and most everything is just different enough to be specifically useful.

I could go thru the differences, but that would be better in a different thread.

Ain't it wonderful to have choices, unlike a lot of countries!

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Old 08-16-2018, 09:50 AM
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:00 AM
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M&P Gen 1 40C with a spare mag. Carried in a Blade Tech IWB winter and summer. 165 grain Hornadys. Ameriglo night sights.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:12 AM
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Kinda depends on what I plan on doing or where my day will take me, and might cover a range from a pocket carry .38 Special or 9mm to an open carry .45 ACP or .357 magnum. A shotgun, AR-15, or .30-06 is added when headed on backcountry roads for a day in the country or woods when hunting or just kicking around.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:10 PM
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Life happens, and CCW choices reflect that, at least for me. Mine have ranged from a LW Commander .45 with ivories to a dehorned M37 and everything in between. More recently it has been a well worn 442 or a BHP 9mm. Like everyone else I own a G19–just prefer the elegance of the Browning. It seems the 9mm is now “good enough”.

However I just completed a long no-frills, chaotic trip where which CCW to carry was the least of my concerns. On the way out the door I grabbed a recently purchased Ruger LC9S and three spare mags. Such shooting as I had done with it showed it to be reliable, easy to hit with, and it was ridiculously inexpensive. For the next 6 wild weeks I’d just drop the thing in my front pocket and forget about it. Always had it, never needed it, but it was there.

Everything I needed, nothing I didn’t. Good enough in my world.
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Old 08-17-2018, 03:51 AM
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At work M&P40
Not at work M&P9
At home M&P9C
I think it's interesting to go back and look at some of these old posts and see how things change.

Within 6 months of posting the above I returned the gun on top to my previous employer and got a new job and I sold the gun on the bottom and bought a Glock 19.

I decided to trade in the 9C for a Glock 19 because the Glock 19 even though slightly bigger is a less bulky gun with a higher standard capacity.

Less than a year after buying the Glock 19 I decided to pick up a Glock 26.

I went with the 19 and the 26 for the same reason that I chose the FS9 and the 9c, compatibility of magazines and the similarity between the pistols. The Glock does have the advantage of having much cheaper magazines and much wider aftermarket support though.

Between the two Glocks there's no question that I carry the 26 more often than the 19. The 26 is what I carry at home and I'm there really more than any place else I go. If I'm leaving home I carry the Glock 19. If I'm carrying the 19 I have to reloads if I'm carrying the 26 I have one reload and I use Magpul 12 round magazines for the 26
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:20 AM
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It is interesting how what we carry today and what we carried 2 years ago has changed. We do tend to buy, sell or trade our guns. Today I find myself carrying mostly a Sig P245, somedays it's a Shield 40 S&W or a Shield 9 mm. On occasion I opt for a Sig 250 in either 40 S&W or 357 Sig. Living in Florida where dress is very casual and shirt tail out is the most common form of wear, it is easy to carry OWB and stay concealed. Nice to have choices.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:25 AM
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Summer: M&P Shield9 in Mika Pocket Holster.
All other times: M&P9 M2.0 Compact in Desantis E-Gat holster on hip.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:09 PM
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When in the USA I carry all sizes of revolvers and autos, depending on mood, weather and location. When working in various overseas assignments I carry what’s issued, usually an M4 and M9. In the Philippines I aptly carry my 5” E nickeled RIA 1911.
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Generally, the smallest handgun I will carry is something Glock 19 sized.

Now, since I started losing weight and carrying appendix, the smallest I carry is my P320 Compact. I don't carry it often, because even as a Sig fanboy, I prefer my M&P 2.0 so that is my usual day to day carry. I actually carry my Beretta M9A3 more than I carry the Sig.

I like big guns, and I cannot lie!
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:05 PM
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I carry a 9mm shield and a 9mm 4.25" 2.0. I carry the shield mostly for comfort but when I feel like having my favorite gun I carry the 2.0 owb.
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Well I guess I am the only one hereó-Kahr CM9 right hand pants pocket, spare 6 round mag left hand pants pocket.
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My daily carry is usually a Smith & Wesson J or K Frame with a 2"-3" barrel, chambered in .38/.357. Sometimes a Colt D Frame (Detective, Agent, Cobra).

Occasionally, a Smith & Wesson 3913, 3914 DAO, or 3953. Maybe a Glock 43.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:17 PM
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I'm very comfortable with this decision, as the technology of ammo has skyrocketed in the 9mm and .380 ammo, making them very formidable stoppers

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Please explain....what technology is involved with bullets today that wasn't present yesteryear
I remember Speer being good
Black Talons also....the same technology as today.

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And bullets from handguns are really poor man stoppers in point of fact
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:21 AM
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Just to name one - JHP that really work, propelled at real speeds! OK, that was two!

And, to use two of your own examples, I can give you two more. Black Talons were first introduced in the 90s, just before my retirement. And Speer claims to continuous improvement of it's entire line. To me, both of these are new technology, neither of which were available to me in the Military.

A guy with your background should know that.

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Old 08-18-2018, 11:27 AM
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Shield 2.0 9 mm or Glock 23.
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:16 AM
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Just to name one - JHP that really work, propelled at real speeds! OK, that was two!

And, to use two of your own examples, I can give you two more. Black Talons were first introduced in the 90s, just before my retirement. And Speer claims to continuous improvement of it's entire line. To me, both of these are new technology, neither of which were available to me in the Military.

A guy with your background should know that.
New technology...
We had the flying ashtrays...we had fast lighter bullets ie: 125 grn 357 mags

Point of fact there is very very little that can be done...
Bigger cavity hollow points ...
Softer lead ...
Better jacket retention ...

After that your better technology is nothing but improved advertising...
YMMV

The only thing that I've seen better with improved technology is that
Firearms ( semi automatics ) are way more reliable these days....
Ammunition....not so much

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I think the improvements to ammo is mostly in consistency. Also there is a LOT more options/choices of SD ammo in design, shape, weight etc. As far as consistency, I think the improvement is in penetration and expansion is much more consistent. (Smaller standard deviation) which therefore results in higher confidence any given bullet will perform as expected. That is a good thing. Is this revolutionary? Well everyone has to judge that for themselves.

380 auto has seen improvement as old ammo was designed with as I understand it lower pressure, and therefore less power than modern produced 380 ammo. This resulting in improved terminal performance.

+P FACTORY availability for 9mm and 38 special also allows for additional performance for penetration and expansion. Prior days this was only available to hand loaders. This too could arguably be considered improvement in ammo compared to yesteryear.

Just my thoughts. YMMV
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Shield .45 haven't noticed the muzzle flip you are mentioning though. Not concerned about the capacity not intending to spray and pray. Statistics show civilian incidents average no more than 2 shots anyway.
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New technology...
We had the flying ashtrays...we had fast lighter bullets ie: 125 grn 357 mags

Point of fact there is very very little that can be done...
Bigger cavity hollow points ...
Softer lead ...
Better jacket retention ...
The flying ashtrays I remember were the 45 ACP loads with a hollow point so large that ability to feed them reliably was uncommon. So uncommon that being able to feed them was considered proof you had an exceptionally reliable 1911.

While the three variables you mention sound simple bullet manufacturers didn't really optimize the balance of expansion vs. weight retention very well in the past. Things like polymer tips to prevent hollow points from clogging and jackets bonded to the core help but todays bullets are mostly more refined versions of past designs. It's kind of like how today's cars are much more reliable than the 70s era cars from when I started driving. A lot more electronics but basically just more refined and better made versions of the same basic technology.

But while modern bullets are the best ever made they are not magic the way so many people think they are. Once you get below 9mm levels of power there is not enough energy to have both good expansion and adequate penetration and no bullet is going to change that.

I am also old enough to remember how Winchester silver tips in the 80s had a reputation as game changing technology that made the 9mm equal to larger calibers. Until there were a few failures that drove the FBI and other law enforcement back to larger calibers like the 40. History tends to repeat.

I feel comfortable carrying a 9mm with modern ammo. But I am not expecting 357 performance due to my carrying magic bullets.
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Although I have 4 Shields and love them, these are my EDCs....no issues whatever in 2,600+ rds.

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My current EDC is a SD9VE with both Apex trigger and spring kits. Eventually I'm going to get some Ameriglo sights for it and that will be it unless I can find a streamlight for cheap. I don't want to invest too heavily in a SD gun considering that if I ever have to use it, it's going to be gone.

I'd say it has about 1000+ rounds through it and handles like a champ. My only complaint for these guns has really just been their grips and stock triggers.
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I carried a 640-1 for several years with .38 loads.

4 years ago my brother gave me his 642-1 Airweight that he carried as his backup gun for years when he was an LEO.

I keep it loaded with 129 gr 38 Special +P Hydra Shoks.

Its been carried and shot a lot.
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When I purchased a SD40VE shortly after the atrocious NY SAFE Act was passed it led me to two things: this gun forum and fondness for the .40S&W. Although the SD40VE was a reliable and comfortable gun for me to shoot I sold to help fund a SIG P250. At the time I was looking for a modular gun that could allow me to have multiple sizes and calibers without requiring the onerous delays of NY's crazy system.

Both my compact and subcompact are .40 cal, have been dead nuts reliable and, when I do my part, very accurate.

I prefer to carry AIWB, hence my preference of the P250 with its hammer over the P320, i am currently using a Vedder holster. However I just ordered a Red River Tactical holster for my recently acquired Walther P99c.
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