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Look like a cracked slide to you?
I noticed this today. The first pic was taken through a jewelers loupe. The second one was taken with my iPhone. It looks and feels like a crack to me. What are your thoughts?
I'm going to contact S&W about this. I've only owned this guy for less than 6 months and have maybe 250 rounds through it. Never been dropped or anything done to it which would cause this (if it's a crack).
This is my M&P Shield 9.
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Certainly looks like a crack! Contact S&W CS and send an image via email. That way you will have documented evidence in case you need it later!
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It could also be a solvent stain. Did you try cleaning that area?
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Looks like a crack associated with the rear sight.
Perhaps S&W's notoriously tight fit on the rear sight required extra force to simply mount the rear sight.
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It could also be a solvent stain. Did you try cleaning that area?
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Yeah. I took some Ballistol to it because I thought maybe I could clean it off. I took the pics after I tried cleaning it off.
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What does it look like on the inside?
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I'm going with crack as well. Send her back.
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IMHO, it doesn't look like a crack, possibly a flaw during manufacturing, but not being there it would be hard to be certain. Under magnification can you see the bottom of the area in question?
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What does it look like on the inside?
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Can't see it on the inside because it is so thick right there. Maybe I could see it if I detail stripped the slide but I'm going to wait to see if S&W wants me to send it back.
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IMHO, it doesn't look like a crack, possibly a flaw during manufacturing, but not being there it would be hard to be certain. Under magnification can you see the bottom of the area in question?
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What do you mean the bottom? Like can I see if there is a separation?
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Does the line appear on the perpendicular edges of the 'fish scales'
--the thin edges that your fingers catch when retracting the slide?
If the line isn't visible up those thin edges, it's probably not a crack...
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Does the line appear on the perpendicular edges of the 'fish scales'
--the thin edges that your fingers catch when retracting the slide?
If the line isn't visible up those thin edges, it's probably not a crack...
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It is visible on those edges. After looking in better lighting, I can see the crack goes up over top of the slide and over to the other side of the firearm. I can really see that it's a crack now.
Well, I'll keep you all posted. Hoping to hear back form them this week and I'm sure they will want to see the entire firearm or at least the slide.
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Place a small drop of light oil or a similar liquid on the suspected crack. If it soaks in, it is a crack. If it stays on the surface, probably not.
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Can't see it on the inside because it is so thick right there. Maybe I could see it if I detail stripped the slide but I'm going to wait to see if S&W wants me to send it back.
What do you mean the bottom? Like can I see if there is a separation?
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A crack will go all the way through and you will not be able to see the lowest area of the line. If you can see an end to the depth then it isn't a crack.
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A crack will go all the way through and you will not be able to see the lowest area of the line. If you can see an end to the depth then it isn't a crack.
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Still not quite sure what you mean.
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A crack will go all the way through and you will not be able to see the lowest area of the line. If you can see an end to the depth then it isn't a crack.
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If you're saying a crack has to go all the way from one side to another 'to be a crack', no. It can start at one side and progress a certain distance and stop. Visualize the steel more as modeling clay with a tear, than a piece of glass. I've seen that in a slide, where the crack started at slide stop notch. It continued up the slide till the slide thickness increased, and it stopped there.
That said, that's one bizarre crack on OP's slide!
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I have to lean toward it not being a crack (just barely)
Edit: seems like an odd place to crack
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Does a small thin edge " catch " on that line? If it's a stain or something your nail or a strip of plastic for instance will not catch on it, but it will if it's a crack.
I'm betting it's a crack done at the factory when installing the sight.
But, I've been known to be rather on the wrong side of things more than once ...
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Try putting a single drop of penetrating oil on the crack and see if it stays on the surface or runs into (gets wicked into ) the crack....that should tell you something .
Sure does look like a crack from photo.
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I would not even mess around with that. Looks like a crack. Call S&W and email those picture in. Let them deal with it.
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They requested that I send it in. The entire gun, not just the slide. I'll ship it tomorrow, and when I get it back I'll report back.
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They requested that I send it in. The entire gun, not just the slide. I'll ship it tomorrow, and when I get it back I'll report back.
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almost 100% of the time they ask for the entire gun sent back
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Save some money shipping, ask S&W to send you a shipper.
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Probably too late if you're sending it in, but take it too a machine and have them magnaflux it. The put a ferous powder on it and apply a strong magnet, while tapping the slide lightly with a small hammer. If it is cracked, the powder aligns in the crack.
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Just stop drill it and call it good.
Works on airplanes, it should work on the slide.
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If I did that..
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Just stop drill it and call it good.
Works on airplanes, it should work on the slide.
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If I did that a chunk would fall out like the Sphinx's nose, then S&W would ask what the hell I thought I was doing.
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Save some money shipping, ask S&W to send you a shipper.
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They did. FedEx Prepaid.
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I'm fine with that. I'd rather ship the entire thing, plus then you have to inform FedEx that there is a firearm in the box and that helps because they DON'T want to lose a firearm in shipping. Not Good.
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Probably too late if you're sending it in, but take it too a machine and have them magnaflux it. The put a ferous powder on it and apply a strong magnet, while tapping the slide lightly with a small hammer. If it is cracked, the powder aligns in the crack.
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LOL. No offense, but why would I go to that trouble? I'll just let S&W deal with it.
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Just stop drill it and call it good.
Works on airplanes, it should work on the slide.
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LOL. Riiiight. I'll get right on that.
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They did. FedEx Prepaid.
I'm fine with that. I'd rather ship the entire thing, plus then you have to inform FedEx that there is a firearm in the box and that helps because they DON'T want to lose a firearm in shipping. Not Good.
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Very good point!!!
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OK folks. Got it back today via FedEx all is well.
They replaced the slide. Funny thing is they never told me if it was cracked or not. In the box there was a paper that said "Melonite stain" in red pen. I wonder if that is the coating on the slide (kind of like Glock's Tenifer coating)? If so I wonder if it wasn't a crack and just a messed up part of the coating?
Total turnaround time was very good in my opinion. I shipped it on 9/28/16 and I got it back on 10/26/16. Under 30 days.
Anyway....now off to shoot it.
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OK folks. Got it back today via FedEx all is well.
They replaced the slide. Funny thing is they never told me if it was cracked or not. In the box there was a paper that said "Melonite stain" in red pen. I wonder if that is the coating on the slide (kind of like Glock's Tenifer coating)? If so I wonder if it wasn't a crack and just a messed up part of the coating?
Total turnaround time was very good in my opinion. I shipped it on 9/28/16 and I got it back on 10/26/16. Under 30 days.
Anyway....now off to shoot it.
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Glad to hear. It's seems strange that there would be a flaw in the finish, but anything is possible. Glad they fixed it, I'm gonna go look over my Shield and see if there's anything haha
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Melonite
Joining the thread a month late and a few dollars short...but seeing the photos I was going to suggest it was a cosmetic flaw in the Melonite treatment. If you look at the way the line wandered through all those fishscale serrations, that alone suggested it was not a crack. The serrations would probably have the effect of interrupting the propagation of a surface crack. At any rate, glad to hear you're back up & running OP, and that S&W took care of you. Their CS is truly world-class.
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I personally think that rather than tell a customer that they have a cracked slide that they just said it had to do with melonite.
I will be selling this Shield and buying a Glock 43 now. I've owned 3 Glocks and never had to send them in for anything. I've owned one S&W and I had to send it in within months of it being new.
NOT Selling it. See my reply below...
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OP: So in summary, you get a bunch of opinions on this board; send the gun in to S&W; they send it back with a brand new slide and indicate it was a problem with the melonite (you didn’t know what melonite was in post #28); you say you’re happy with the service and turnaround time; then you accuse S&W of lying and decide to jump ship? I’d never want to be in a foxhole with you, man. Go have fun with your Glocks.
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At 10:13AM you said:
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Anyway....now off to shoot it.
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I will be selling this Shield and buying a Glock 43 now.
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What happened in those 5 hours to make you so sour? Did you even go shoot it?
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Sorry about that...
Sorry guys. Had a really bad couple days. I'm not selling it. It was more of a knee-jerk reaction. I'm going to keep it and shoot it. If I have something that works, I use it. I just want it to be reliable. Didn't mean to cause any trouble. Just had a bad day. Thanks guys!
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They did. FedEx Prepaid.
I'm fine with that. I'd rather ship the entire thing, plus then you have to inform FedEx that there is a firearm in the box and that helps because they DON'T want to lose a firearm in shipping. Not Good.
LOL. No offense, but why would I go to that trouble? I'll just let S&W deal with it.
LOL. Riiiight. I'll get right on that.
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