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Old 10-27-2016, 07:26 AM
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Picked up a Shield 45 a few weeks back. First two times out, it ran without a problem. The next time out, I had four FTF's. For whatever reason, the slide didn't pick up the next round. The slide locked back as if the mag was empty. I sling-shotted the slide, and everything was fine. Went out yesterday and had one FTF, same as before. I'm using Federal 230gn FMJ. Anyone else out there having this issue with the new 45?

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Mine did the same thing, S&W replaced the barrel locking block. Call them and get a return label. Write, "Locks back prematurely" and they will understand the problem.
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Thanks for the tip, Bone.
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Donn,
My .45 Shield does the exact same thing...on the second or third round of either magazine, the cartridge fails to move up to be chambered. No jams or other lock-ups...the slide just fails to move forward and chamber the next round in the magazine.

I sent it to the factory once, and the problem is still there.

I'll send it back again, but this time bonephish, I'll tell them that I have a premature lock-back problem with the slide. Maybe they'll replace the slide lock mechanism this time.

I'm actually not sure exactly what they did the first time I sent it back, but this Shield isn't designed as a range "toy", and if it fails to feed the second or third round without racking the slide, then I'm basically carrying nothing more than a single shot or derringer if I need the pistol as a defensive tool.

My 9mm and .40S&W Shields never gave me any problems, which is why I thought I'd try a .45.

I hope you get your pistol fixed, and if so, please let me know. Thanks, and have a great weekend.
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It's getting somewhere around three months for my Shield 45. Has been to a desert range numerous times, as well an an indoor. Not one failure of any kind. Many types of factory, as well as re-loads have been shot through this gun. Two new mags also worked without a hitch. I understand frustration, but as far as I'm concerned, this 45 is as dependable as it gets for a semi-auto. I also have the 9mm Shield,but prefer the 45.
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My .45 Shield does the exact same thing...on the second or third round of either magazine, the cartridge fails to move up to be chambered. No jams or other lock-ups...the slide just fails to move forward and chamber the next round in the magazine.

I sent it to the factory once, and the problem is still there.

I'll send it back again, but this time bonephish, I'll tell them that I have a premature lock-back problem with the slide. Maybe they'll replace the slide lock mechanism this time.

I'm actually not sure exactly what they did the first time I sent it back, but this Shield isn't designed as a range "toy", and if it fails to feed the second or third round without racking the slide, then I'm basically carrying nothing more than a single shot or derringer if I need the pistol as a defensive tool.

My 9mm and .40S&W Shields never gave me any problems, which is why I thought I'd try a .45.

I hope you get your pistol fixed, and if so, please let me know. Thanks, and have a great weekend.
Mine was at the factory twice for 3 weeks each time. First time they replaced the slide lock, second time the locking block. Now the pistol runs all kinds of ammo 100%.

When your gun returns from S&W there's paperwork explaining what they did.
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Old 10-29-2016, 01:02 PM
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Once again, I caution all of us to smack our .45 Shields on our palms to make certain that the rounds are all seated as far back against the rear side of the magazine as possible before loading and shooting. In some cases, this may have to be done as we are loading the mags to prevent the bullet tips from touching the front wall of the mag and tipping the rounds as they move downward.

The tolerance for the rounds inside these mags is really tight, I'm sure in order to allow the mag to fit inside the grip area available to keep this platform as small as possible. Different brands of ammo are or may be loaded to slightly different over-all length. Bullet construction is slightly different between brands. Some bullet profiles are a tiny bit longer than others.

I have not had this issue, but it is my practice to smack every loaded magazine against my other hand to fully seat the rounds against the rear portion of the magazine. I am NOT saying there is not a problem with the guns as reported in this thread, but I am saying that I think it is important to do what I have suggested so that a round travelling upward in the mag during shooting does not bind on the front of the magazine and slow it's travel upward. I present this just in case it might be helpful to any or all of us. It has been helpful for me. Take a look at your loaded rounds in the mag. Even after it is certain they are resting against the rear of the mag, there is very little room between bullet tips and the front of the mag. Again, I have not seen the problem described here. But anything that hinders the movement of the rounds inside the magazine can certainly be a problem. I just want all to be aware of this possibility!
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guess I'll be sending my Shield 45 to S&W soon, the FTF issue keeps happening, though not as often, for my off duty carry weapon, once is too often! I love the weapon, wow do I ever! but I believe when I get it back it will be traded in on a Glock, I'm undecided on the model

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Old 10-29-2016, 05:39 PM
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After speaking with S&W Customer Service a few times about my .45 Shield, I'm convinced of their dedication.

When they get your gun, the only thing they have to go by is your written description of the problem. They inspect and change a part, etc., test a few rounds and ship it back to you. You should test a full magazine of several brands and types of ammo.

I've heard about several Glocks that went back to the factory. Gun sales are pushing production and a few lemons get shipped out.
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taking the Shield .45 of my want to buy list, I can't deal with sending guns back, after that I don't trust it anymore.
I'd say I'm in the 1200 rounds of ammo, through my Shield 45 at this point. This is based on the amount of primers I go through, for reloads. Not a hint of failure, using many different loads & types of bullets. Factory & reloads.

It appears that the vast majority of Shield 45 owners have the same experiences I'm having. I bought this 45 due to very positive comments within the month or so after it's release to the market.

As far as trust goes, its at the top of my list for a concealed carry weapon.

Like everything else, thousands of units can work perfectly. A few don't, but those few always get a lot of attention on the internet. Some problems are factory, and no doubt that some are user caused.

edit: So I already posted about the same a week ago. In the meantime, the Shield spent more time at an indoor range this last week shooting two brands of factory, and three different formulas of reloads. Couldn't get a malfunction if I tried (but then I don't limp wrist or hold a thumb against the slide). It shot as accurate up to the 25 yrds as usual. Much better at 25, than any of my 9mm's.

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One more comment...........

The Shield 45 is a mechanically operated device. It's basic design must be a good one, because of all the positive reports. Some gun designs just stink. They have problems that stick with them. I've had a few, and some I sold, because I couldn't stand them anymore, let alone trust them.

Obviously, in the case of the Shield, something wasn't installed correctly, or there is misuse. I have a mechanical mind. I'll look for the reasons that a device doesn't operate correctly, especially when the design is proven. The Shield has a short track record, but I believe it's a good design. The failures I read about, are not after long use. It's not a worn gun. It must be simple issues that can be taken care of.

I built and flew high performance airplanes. Hundred of things could go wrong. These guns are rather simple. If the design is working well for most owners, then it's fixable. It's not something I'd fret over.

Just look at the hundreds of positive reviews from Shield 45 owners, during the short few months of it's release. It does mean something!
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Old 10-30-2016, 04:35 PM
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Once again, I caution all of us to smack our .45 Shields on our palms to make certain that the rounds are all seated as far back against the rear side of the magazine as possible before loading and shooting. In some cases, this may have to be done as we are loading the mags to prevent the bullet tips from touching the front wall of the mag and tipping the rounds as they move downward.

The tolerance for the rounds inside these mags is really tight, I'm sure in order to allow the mag to fit inside the grip area available to keep this platform as small as possible. Different brands of ammo are or may be loaded to slightly different over-all length. Bullet construction is slightly different between brands. Some bullet profiles are a tiny bit longer than others.
I'm an old Vietnam vet. Tapping my M-16 mags on my steel pot prior to loading was second nature. It's the first thing I tried when this problem arose. Don't wear a steel pot any more, tapped the Shield mags on the shelf at the range. No joy.
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There isn't anything wrong in the design of the Shield 45. They work great and cycle with a nice solid "crisp" action. If you have one that doesn't eat all types of ammo then something isn't right. It should be stone reliable. Mine is.

There are lots of issues with folks needing to check their grip style or be careful how they load ammo but that usually works itself out fairly quickly.
I haven't found the 45 to be all that critical on grip and it has always functioned well off hand and left handed and at a non-vertical angle and such when shooting around cover objects . Limp wristing doesn't SEEM to be all that touchy but I'm sure one could induce a stoppage sometimes.

If you check your grip, and the mags AND the alignment of he mag release and locking mechanism and find no problems but it still has cycling issues then for sure just send it in and get it fixed. Something isn't right. It should work fine every time. So far mine has been flawless and very satisfying to shoot. The mags were very tight at first but have gotten better after just a few hundred rounds down range and carrying every day fully loaded all the time. Still a bit stiff but the follower runs smoother now.
I do indeed tap the mags to seat the rounds on the rear of the mag.
And YES we always did this with M14 and M16 mags back in the day ....
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in over 2,300 rounds I have had 3 failure to feed's, Never a Lock back just a failure to feed the next round. I attribute that to a break In period, In the last 600 rounds or so it hasn't happened. I'll shoot more tomorrow (at least another 200 rounds and see what happens

I also had a mag pop out 3 times while firing, But after changing out the mag release it has not happened again.

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Decided to give the 45 one more try yesterday. 50rds of FMJ ran flawlessly thru both mags. Holding off sending it back just now. We'll see how it runs next time, go from there.
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if so its possible that your thumbs or thumb is riding up and making contact with the slide lock. try shooting left handed, It only take slight pressure to engage that lock regardless if the mag is loaded or not.
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guess I'll be sending my Shield 45 to S&W soon, the FTF issue keeps happening, though not as often, for my off duty carry weapon, once is too often! I love the weapon, wow do I ever! but I believe when I get it back it will be traded in on a Glock, I'm undecided on the model

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I bought a Glock 30S this spring and at first could not get through a magazine without either a FTF or FTE. Very frustrating but I found my answer on a XD forum: apply 4 times as much oil and shoot it! After some 300 rounds it loosened up and will fire factory loads 100% but I still have problems with some reloads that I had loaded a little light for the wife. My 'full power' reloads work fine. This tells me it just had/has a very tight fit and needs more break-in.
Perhaps the .45 Shield is the same?
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if so its possible that your thumbs or thumb is riding up and making contact with the slide lock. try shooting left handed, It only take slight pressure to engage that lock regardless if the mag is loaded or not.
Anything's possible I guess. I've been shooting auto pistols a long time, mostly my M&P's in recent years. Never had that happen before. BTW, shooting left-handed is part of the weekly drill.
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I have had the issue of slide locking back on a loaded mag also. I see it as the magazine causing the issue. Each time it happened, the cartridge wasnt up high enough in the mag for it to be picked up. The pistol functioned as though the mag was empty. Im going to be conscious of loading and tapping the mag to keep rounds back in the magazine. I believe the issue will be gone.
As an aside. 450 rounds through the gun. Locked backed 5 times with 4 different factory magazines
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Anything's possible I guess. I've been shooting auto pistols a long time, mostly my M&P's in recent years. Never had that happen before. BTW, shooting left-handed is part of the weekly drill.
Yes, but on the full size M&Ps its less likely because you have more of a grip to hold onto and your fingers and thumbs are further away from the controls (more space on the grip) The smaller the grip (Shields) the more likely your thumb/s will come in contact with the guns controls,(less space on the grip) ie slide stop, mag release.
Did the slide lock back while shooting left handed.

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fired well over 700 rounds of Winchester 230+P SXT with Zero failures with my M&P shield 45. Prob well over 1,200 round total (500) American Eagle 230 Ball.
Great shooter, very accurate, and a pretty mild recoil
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Just another data point here, for what it's worth...

Left-handed shooter with >400 rounds of FMJ and JHP ammo across 7 different brands (Win, Rem, Federal, Fiocchi, Herter's, PMC, Aguila) and 8 factory magazines (3 6-round mags, 5 7-round mags) with absolutely no malfunctions. I've fired it hot, dirty, and continuously in rapid-fire sessions and it continues to eat the ammo and put it on target!

MP1SG's point is a valid one regarding the left-handed question, as there is no slide lock on the right side of the frame.

Personally, I love this little thing and concur that it's accurate, smooth-running, and has great grip stipling for management of the surprisingly mild, albeit stout recoil.

Best of luck to everyone having issues though...I hate to hear that people are having problems!

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Another plug for the S&W tech department, mine now runs flawlessly on Federal, Winchester, Blazer, Browning, Hornady, Liberty... Back in rotation with my other CCW's. I'm carrying it with Liberty Civil Defense 75gr +P = 1900fps and a few oz lighter to carry.

I will say that normally I won't carry a gun that had issues. I sold a XDS .45 that sometimes didn't return to battery because of a dirty extractor channel. But I like my .45 Shield and am satisfied that it's running 100%.
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i actually ran FOUR (4) 7 round magazines with different ammo brand loaded a mix of ammo in each 7 round mag with ZERO malfunctions
Speer 230 gold dot and 200 grain +P
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10 Different weight grain and brands of ammo, The gun just works very pleased with its accuracy, reliability and concealability
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I've been having the same kind of problem with my new .45 Shield.

It was flawless for the first 6 or so magazines run through it. Then it started malfunctioning. Nothing had changed. Same original two magazines. Same ammo. Gun clean or dirty didn't matter. Happened with both mags. So I tried some different ammo. Made no difference.

I could not get through either mag without at least one failure, usually several. The 6 round mag seemed to be worse than the 7 round.

The problem was after firing a shot, the slide would stay back, but I looked at it carefully and noticed that it wasn't all the way back and the slide lock was not engaged. If I pulled the slide back and let it go, it would load the next round and fire ok after that until the next failure, which was sometimes the next round.

I looked at it even more carefully and noticed that the cartridge in the top of the magazine was not fully up into the lips at the top of the mag. I don't know how that would cause the slide to stop part way back, or come forward part way and stop.

So I took both mags apart and cleaned them thoroughly with Rem oil. Without cleaning the gun, I went out and ran both mags full through without a hitch. It will take some more testing of course, but I'm encouraged by the initial results.
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I am having the same (almost exact) issues as outflyin. 1st range session 150 rounds Speer ball - 1 FTF dismissed as break in issue. 2nd range session (cleaned & lubed) 150 rounds Speer ball - numerous FTF always the second round in the magazine. 3rd range session (cleaned and lubed again plus all magazines disassembled and cleaned but not lubed) 150 rounds Speer ball with numerous FTF of the second round in magazine. FTF's occurred across 4 different 6 round magazines. It was sent back to S&W (told not to send the magazines by CS rep). Returned about 10 days later. Paperwork said the locking block and RSA was replaced the the gun test fired. Took it to the range and it continued to have FTF's. Tried both ball and WW Ranger 230 JHP. The rounds appear to be nosediving and catching at the bottom edge of the locking block. Pulling the slide fully rearward and releasing chambers the round.

Shot a friend's Shield 45 last week. Every round chambered and fired without any type of malfunction.

Discussed the problem with an armorer friend who suggested locking the slide back and fully loading the magazines and leaving them sit for two weeks. It has been two weeks and I will shoot it again this week. I will bring my friend along with his Shield. If it FTF I will have my friend shoot it. I will also try his magazines in my Shield. If it has FTF's it will go back to S&W.
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I am having the same (almost exact) issues as outflyin. 1st range session 150 rounds Speer ball - 1 FTF dismissed as break in issue. 2nd range session (cleaned & lubed) 150 rounds Speer ball - numerous FTF always the second round in the magazine. 3rd range session (cleaned and lubed again plus all magazines disassembled and cleaned but not lubed) 150 rounds Speer ball with numerous FTF of the second round in magazine. FTF's occurred across 4 different 6 round magazines. It was sent back to S&W (told not to send the magazines by CS rep). Returned about 10 days later. Paperwork said the locking block and RSA was replaced the the gun test fired. Took it to the range and it continued to have FTF's. Tried both ball and WW Ranger 230 JHP. The rounds appear to be nosediving and catching at the bottom edge of the locking block. Pulling the slide fully rearward and releasing chambers the round.

Shot a friend's Shield 45 last week. Every round chambered and fired without any type of malfunction.

Discussed the problem with an armorer friend who suggested locking the slide back and fully loading the magazines and leaving them sit for two weeks. It has been two weeks and I will shoot it again this week. I will bring my friend along with his Shield. If it FTF I will have my friend shoot it. I will also try his magazines in my Shield. If it has FTF's it will go back to S&W.
Too bad they told you not to send the magazines in. Will be interesting to see how your friend's magazines work in your gun.
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I will also try my magazines in his gun.
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I got a chance to do some more shooting and the first 4 magazines (twice each on the 6 round and 7 round) had no occurrence of the slide getting stuck back, so I thought things were looking pretty good.

I did however have 2 occurrences of the magazine being released while firing which was also happening to me previously when I first started having the slide problem.

So I loaded up the two mags again and fired them all again with my thumbs held completely away from the gun. Had no magazine releases so it must be me.

However, I did have two more occurrences of the slide getting stuck during that last session with my thumbs held out. Both happened with the 6 round mag using rather pointy hollow points. Once again the cartridge was not completely up into the lips at the top of the magazine and the tip of the bullet was stuck against the lower feed ramp that is part of the frame of the gun. I didn't realize that's what was happening until I read Operator 203's description. That's why the slide stops.

I wonder if this problem has anything to do with why the magazine springs are so darn stiff from the factory, but soften up after being compressed after a while of use. It's as if the springs when new were able to push the cartridge more firmly up into position but now that they're a little weaker, it's not quite making it all the time.

Could be cleaning the magazines may have just masked the real cause of the problem temporarily.

Guess I'm going to have to call S&W. Sure was hoping I wouldn't have to send this in for repair.
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I have photos of both HP and ball ammo getting hung up on the bottom of the locking block. I am very surprised it happens with ball. None of my FTF's involve the slide stop lever. They are all due to the round being stopped during the feed cycle. It's a shame. The pistol feels great in the hand and is a tack driver.

I will be shooting it again on Thursday and will report the results.
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I know. Happened with ball ammo and hollow points with me too. I've been waiting for a gun like this for a long time. It is a shame. It worked so well at first. Everything about it was just exactly what I was looking for: very compact .45, accurate, low recoil, 6-7 rounds and the quickest back on target I've ever had. Sure hope this is fixable.
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Add me to the list of those with no problems. I feel bad for those who have had an issue, it is a fine weapon and I gladly bet my life on it every time I carry it.
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Here's a picture of the ramp. Has quite a lip on it and what looks like some indentation visible too.

The forum reduced the resolution of my first pic. I've added a zoomed in version that should show the lip better.
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Questions:

Is everyone who has this problem pulling the slide back and releasing it to clear?

Or if it is supposedly the slide lock prematurely engaging, have you pushed the slide lock down to clear?
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Just posted another report in the other thread: .45 Shield problem

Meant to put it here.
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The slide lock is not the cause of the FTF's in my pistol. Fully retracting and releasing the slide feeds the round.
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I've seen reports of both happening. Mine was without the slide lock engaged until now when it happened once.
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My shield 45 has the same issue of the slide locking back when the clip still has rounds in it. I have returned it once to S&W with a full description of what was happening. They returned with no repairs being performed stating they put 5 clips thru it and could not reproduce issue. I got it back and went straight to the range where it did it 6 times in 5 clips. It is now back at S&W. I agree that if they can't fix it, it is a nice one shot gun because it is not dependable if I am forced to have to draw and use it. Hope they can fix it because for the most part it is a great gun.
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Smith and Wesson told me to send the gun in without the magazines. I told them the magazines could be the problem. They said if I still have the problem after the gun is returned to me, they will exchange the magazines.
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I am using the 6 round mag that came with the pistol and three additional 6 rounders that I purchased when I picked up the pistol at the dealer. I dislike extended magazines and don't use the 7 rounder. Since my FTF's occur across all 4 of my magazines (I number them) I doubt this is a magazine issue unless they all have weak magazine springs. Looks like we will be rained out for today's range session so my update will be delayed.
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Just checked the Wolff website for extra power magazine springs. No listing for the 45 Shield.
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As others have mentioned, when these magazines are new the springs are extremely stiff. I've had many semi-autos and have never before felt the need for a magazine loader, but I sure thought I was going to have to go that route with this one. Fortunately with a little use they became easier to load. They are still the hardest to load that I've ever had, but manageable now. Unfortunately along with that came the failure to feed problems.
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I recently bought a Shield .45. I have somewhat the same problem. I've only used the 7 rounder, but it won't chamber a round with 7 in the mag. So I load 6, chamber one, then pull out the mag and then it will take the 7 rounds in the mag. I had one actual FTF, but I think that might have been me limp wristing??, but pulling the slide back to chamber a round, I'm having some issues. Slide feels quite gritty when racking also.

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I recently bought a Shield .45. I have somewhat the same problem. I've only used the 7 rounder, but it won't chamber a round with 7 in the mag. So I load 6, chamber one, then pull out the mag and then it will take the 7 rounds in the mag. I had one actual FTF, but I think that might have been me limp wristing??, but pulling the slide back to chamber a round, I'm having some issues. Slide feels quite gritty when racking also.
That gritty feeling is only there on mine with a full mag. I assume it's from the pressure of the fully compressed mag spring. After the first round or two, it pretty much goes away.
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Had two more failures to pick up a round even though the slide cycled normally, and one mag release. No other issues. Ran four mags through. Didn't clean or lube anything since the last outing.
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Stopped by dealer and he was able to rack/load my pistol. He advised to keep the mags loaded as these new springs are brutal. My range is outside, so not a lot of rounds through mine either. I haven't had any slide locking open problems "yet". I"ll check in on this thread for more user info and if anything changes on my end. Thanks to all posters.
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Cleaned gun and mags. Ran 4 magazines through. Had only two malfunctions. They were both failure to pick up a round with normal slide cycle, slide not stuck.

Since I've been working on a better grip I'm seeing positive results. The symptoms have definitely changed and for the better.

I'm wondering if the skinny grip on this gun might be a factor for my hands.
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Cleaned nothing. 4 more magazines. Zero malfunctions. Focusing on grip over accuracy.
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My 45 shield has the same issue. Slide locking back, ammo in mag with bullet tip down. I have sent it back again. The first time they said they polished the barrel and chamber. Not sure how that would solve the problem. They said they fired it and no problem. After getting it back the first time I fired 1 shot and it locked back. Reset the slide and continued to run through that mag. Happens again on another mag. So I sent it on back. Don't think I'll be buying any more new Smith & Wessons.
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My 45 shield has the same issue. Slide locking back, ammo in mag with bullet tip down. I have sent it back again. The first time they said they polished the barrel and chamber. Not sure how that would solve the problem. They said they fired it and no problem. After getting it back the first time I fired 1 shot and it locked back. Reset the slide and continued to run through that mag. Happens again on another mag. So I sent it on back. Don't think I'll be buying any more new Smith & Wessons.
How long were you without it the first time you sent it in?
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