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Old 01-06-2017, 06:26 PM
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I bought a .45 Shield about 2 months ago and am delighted with the handling, trigger, grips, and accuracy. However, I've had a recurrent malfunction about every 20 rounds. About 3-4 rounds into the magazine the slide gets stuck without actually being locked back. If I drop the magazine, the slide goes forward. If I rack the slide the short distance left, the round feeds but sometimes jams at a 45 degree angle. This problem is independent of ammo type or magazine.

Any thoughts? I have not yet called S&W hoping that this would be a break-in problem, but it happened today and round count is above 300.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:40 PM
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Anyone have this problem or have any thoughts?

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Old 01-07-2017, 01:52 PM
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Since it is brand new.......If there are no concerns about ammunition, (does this with factory ball ammo) proper grip,( or somehow impeding the slide with your grip) cleanliness and/or adequate lubrication, I would give S&W Customer Service a call. 1-800-331-0852
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:56 PM
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Proper lubrication? A new pistol, shooting quality ammo should not have such issues. If application of a decent oil doesn't solve the problem, you might try light white grease on the bearing surfaces, if that doesn't work, then a call to S&W Customer Service is probably in order.

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Old 01-08-2017, 12:04 AM
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Mine did that, S&W fixed it in 3 week turnaround. Call S&W and get a return label by email to send your Shield to them for repair. Put a note in the box explaining the problem as you have written here.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:08 AM
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Just got mine back from S&W for the second time for a similar problem- mine would lock back on a partially full magazine on a regular basis. Only difference was my slide actually locked back, not stick back. First time they replaced the slide lock which didn't help at all and the second time they replaced the locking block which appears to have cured the problem. Just put around 150 rounds through it at the range with only one early on lock back and no further issues. Will need to put another 100-200 rounds through it before I consider it reliable for carry.
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:25 PM
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Thanks for your replies. This is not a lubrication or "limp wrist" problem. I'll call S&W tomorrow; it sounds like I'm not the only one to have this issue.
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I bought a .45 Shield about 2 months ago and am delighted with the handling, trigger, grips, and accuracy. However, I've had a recurrent malfunction about every 20 rounds. About 3-4 rounds into the magazine the slide gets stuck without actually being locked back. If I drop the magazine, the slide goes forward. If I rack the slide the short distance left, the round feeds but sometimes jams at a 45 degree angle. This problem is independent of ammo type or magazine.

Any thoughts? I have not yet called S&W hoping that this would be a break-in problem, but it happened today and round count is above 300.
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Thanks for your replies. This is not a lubrication or "limp wrist" problem. I'll call S&W tomorrow; it sounds like I'm not the only one to have this issue.
Contacting S&W is probably the best course of action, so please keep that in mind if you read the rest of my post.

I had multiple malfunctions as you describe with my 45 Shield. What I found was the round that caused the stoppage had nose dived enough that it was getting caught under a ledge on the locking block. Here's a photo that shows where the ledge is located (unfortunately, the photo does not show how substantial the ledge is):

I didn't feel like sending my pistol back (it had already been back for about 4 weeks to fix an out of the box cosmetic issue), so I just modified my locking block and I've not had a re-occurrence of the stoppage.
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Old 02-20-2017, 04:22 PM
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I am also having the issue of the slide locking back when the clip still has rounds in it. I sent it back to S&W with out the clips per their instructions and they returned it back too me saying they put 5 clips thru it and could not reproduce issue therefor nothing to fix. When I got it back I took a dremel to the location one writer talk about on the grip portion of the gun. Took it to the range and it malfunctioned twice on the first clip and 4 more times in 3 clips. I have since returned it to them again with the clips as per their instructions. I am hoping they can fix the issue but not real confident. Is this a common issue? I don't seem to here a lot of this issue. Did I possibly just get a lemon?

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Old 02-21-2017, 12:19 PM
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This exact problem starting happening with my new .45 Shield after about the first 6 magazines had been run through it flawlessly. Cleaning and lubricating the magazines resulted in 4 more magazines without a problem, but it started happening again after that. I'm also having a problem of the magazine releasing unexpectedly sometimes during firing.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:05 PM
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I had that happen with a borrowed .45 Shield. I happened to stop at an indoor range, and looked at the rental guns. I mentioned to the owner if he had a .45 Shield, I would have rented it, being interested in one. He pulled his personal Shield off his hip and offered it to me, telling me he had upgraded from a 9mm Shield and this one could use some rounds through it.

At any rate, I ran through one box of 230 grain FMJ. About halfway through the box, halfway through one magazine, the slide locked back.

Not drawing any conclusions from one malfunction on a new gun. Just passing on that it happened to me too.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:14 PM
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This is just a suggestion, but I have personally encountered problems, as have others I know, with small pistols that have substantial recoil. It depends very much on subtle differences between hands and pistol grips, but often a magazine release can be hit by a thumb with the shooter completely unaware. Sometimes a magazine will fall free when this happens; sometimes it will just drop down slightly but stay in place, and it can make for some weird symptoms.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:35 PM
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Ran 4 more magazines through it after cleaning the gun at the end of the previous outing, overlubing it with CLP, and just spraying a little Rem Oil around the magazine followers.

I used all ball ammo this time in both stock mags, wore gloves and used a firm two-handed grip throughout.

I had no unintentional mag releases and no occurrences of the slide getting stuck part way back.

However, I did have two other failures that were different.

One was the slide did actually lock all the way back with the slide lock engaged and rounds still in the magazine. Thumbs were nowhere near the slide lock lever.

The other was when the trigger clicked on an empty chamber. The slide had cycled normally but no round was picked up.

May have to send it in or just keep "testing" it until it straightens out.

I love how quick this gun gets back on target.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:48 PM
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Posted pics of my ramp in the other thread: Shield 45 issue

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I had that happen with a borrowed .45 Shield. I happened to stop at an indoor range, and looked at the rental guns. I mentioned to the owner if he had a .45 Shield, I would have rented it, being interested in one. He pulled his personal Shield off his hip and offered it to me, telling me he had upgraded from a 9mm Shield and this one could use some rounds through it.

At any rate, I ran through one box of 230 grain FMJ. About halfway through the box, halfway through one magazine, the slide locked back.
Interesting story. So what was HIS reaction (to this overall problem) when you gave it back to him?
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