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Old 06-18-2018, 06:41 PM
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Ohh MAN.... If this was to ever happen I'd be so jealous of you guys. And then soon after that we'll start seeing these M&P 10mm for sale in Cali for 200-300% over retail.
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If Ruger, Colt, Sig, Remington, EAA, Dan Wesson, Glock, RIA and a couple others can all come up with a platform that can handle the 10mm I'd think S&W would be able to find some way to make it work.

Everyone who thinks the 10mm is just a small niche round hasn't been paying attention for the last couple years as every major handgun manufacturer other than S&W has been able to garner sufficient support to keep introducing more and more models.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:45 AM
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My Glock 20 does everything I need for a 10mm, so NO I would not be interested. I WOULD however be interested in an M&P 2.0 Compact in 357Sig.
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If Ruger, Colt, Sig, Remington, EAA, Dan Wesson, Glock, RIA and a couple others can all come up with a platform that can handle the 10mm I'd think S&W would be able to find some way to make it work.

Everyone who thinks the 10mm is just a small niche round hasn't been paying attention for the last couple years as every major handgun manufacturer other than S&W has been able to garner sufficient support to keep introducing more and more models.

I agree 100%
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10mm is not new to S&W seeing as how they offered them during the 90's so they already have experience with the cartridge and it shouldn't be an issue for them to offer a M&P in 10mm.
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10mm in Glocks are carried in black bear country by semi-auto experienced woodsman.
Need one with a safety and the P220 DA/SA has none.... but G20/G29 can be fitted with a thumb safety as Ive read.

Anyone knowledgeable about that?
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:30 AM
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Why does the A-10 have the GAU-8? Because it's awesome and destroys everything. I would like that option in an M&P.
Me too. Id buy a M&P in GAU-8 right now.

....but Im probably one of the few that actually WANT a GAU-8
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Was thinking same, thanks for posting.
For those thinking the 10mm is just for chest pounding or blowing things up at the range (which is fun), it is a preferred round in the back country out here with bears and mountain lions whether hiking or hunting. A 10mm in an M&P platform would be great.
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Old 07-21-2018, 01:59 AM
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It would be even LESS popular than the 40 s&w. It would be a boutique gun that would NOT sell well. Doesn't make much financial sense for S&W to make the tooling, etc for it.
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It would be even LESS popular than the 40 s&w. It would be a boutique gun that would NOT sell well. Doesn't make much financial sense for S&W to make the tooling, etc for it.
Possibly, but I think otherwise for this reason. When choosing between the 9 and .40, they are pretty much in the same playing field. Shooters think, "should I get a 9 or .40?" Then it comes down to preference. The 9 is a cheaper round to shoot and technology has evolved such that it's as effective as the .40, or even more so - at least the FBI thinks so; hence their switch back to the 9.

The 10mm is NOT in the same playing field as the 9 or .40 with muzzle energy ranging from ~500ft-lbs - ~800ft-lbs depending upon ammo brands and loading. Pretty much fills the gap between 9/.40/.45 and 44 mag. And, it has made quite a comeback in recent years as a number of folks have stated. Clearly Glock and other manufacturers support it both in polymer and 1911 platforms. As such, I believe S&W will do well with this offering as their M&P line has become very popular. But, only time will tell.
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Old 07-22-2018, 10:24 PM
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M&P 10mm, I would buy one, that would be fun, l especially like the 1076, I'm a lefty and without changing my grip I can decock it, eject the clip, rock the slide, it's just been a lot of fun over the years.

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Yes i would like to have a M&P 10 mm.
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No, I don't need another caliber to reload for.....
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I’d love to have a 5”-6” full size and a 3.6” or 4” compact. My father and I would both snatch up each of those the second they became available.
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Id love to have a 5 full size. My father and I would both snatch up each of those the second they became available.

I would buy a M&P 2.0 5" in black or FDE, FDE 5" in 10mm would be very cool.
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Makes me think of Colonel Jeff Cooper more than miami vice

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I would love a 10mm M&P

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Old 08-04-2018, 09:58 AM
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10mm is not new to S&W seeing as how they offered them during the 90's so they already have experience with the cartridge and it shouldn't be an issue for them to offer a M&P in 10mm.
True, but they also had experience with the .357 SIG round but discontinued that round late in the M&P 1.0 life cycle. They didn't reincarnate that round with the 2.0, even though they could have made change to the design to allow it during that version's development period.

I'd be surprised if they ever offer 10mm in the M&P line.

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True, but they also had experience with the .357 SIG round but discontinued that round late in the M&P 1.0 life cycle. They didn't reincarnate that round with the 2.0, even though they could have made change to the design to allow it during that version's development period.

I'd be surprised if they ever offer 10mm in the M&P line.
The Smith & Wesson Shield has had its fair share of issues(in both 9mm/.45), yet its still being produced. 10mm seems to be a lot more popular then .357sig these days, IF they(S&W) feel its worth it $$ wise I'm sure they would consider it. But who knows lol.
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If S&W could sell a 10mm in the Shield 45 platform or a 45ACP-10MM conversion then I think the 10MM would finally take off as a mainstream round. It already has a nice following in several full sized platforms. Colt Delta, Springfield TRP Operator, Sig, several others. I really don't see any other calibers out there other than the 45 for serious military applications. Who cares if the FBI agents who tried to qualify couldn't control their weapons. I think it is only a matter of time before it is accepted by the military as an issued sidearm for at least one of our branches of our military. When that happens we can be assured ammo will always be available and when that happens, people buy that caliber.
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...I think it is only a matter of time before it is accepted by the military as an issued sidearm for at least one of our branches of our military. When that happens we can be assured ammo will always be available and when that happens, people buy that caliber.
Unlike you, I doubt that we'll ever see 10mm as a standard military weapon, even for Special Ops troops. Those troops often have the option of using just about anything they need, but I've never heard or read about any of them using 10mm weapons. Ditto .357 SIG weapons, even though that round would work almost as well as 10mm, and the guns shooting that round would fit many more hands.

While I never saw combat during my military service, I had two close friends who were Special Ops troops, and who had done multiple combat tours in hot zones; and I've talked with others. Most of them would rather have a good automatic weapon for most combat situations; they said they would use handguns only when they had no other option.

While a 10mm round is more potent than other handgun rounds, most 10mm round velocities don't come close to rifle or carbine round velocities and high velocity (i.e., greater than 2000 fps) is what can cause debilitating tissue damage. While the temporary would cavity from rifle rounds can be devastating, that is NOT the case with handgun rounds, most of which travel at far less than 1500 fps).

The temporary wound cavities from handgun rounds seem to have only limited and maybe even temporary effect; what does real damage is when the bullet hits a key organ or bone structure, or the central nervous system.

On line I could find only two 10mm loads that exceeded 2000 fps -- and most 10mm were the 1400-1500 fps range. Well-placed shots that hit critical spots are the key with handguns, and I suspect that most GIs would find that harder to do with a 10mm handgun than a 9mm handgun.
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The Danish Sirius Sledge Patrol use them as protection against Polar Bears. There are several agencies including the FBI that still use 10mm. The FBI Hostage Rescue Team, Special Weapons and Tactics Teams, Coconut Creek Police Department, Plano Police Department, Weimar Police Department, and the San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) Police Department. I imagine that there are others that employ the 10mm but haven't reported their use. There isn't any other viable options in the semiautomatic round other than the 45ACP on the lower end and the 50AE on the upper end. I would like the 44AMP in a TRP Operator!!!!!! That would sell like hotcakes and bring the 44AMP to life IMO. I am interested in .44 amp., .357 amp, and the.45 Win Mag for future alternatives to the 10mm.

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The fact that these teams use 10mm is interesting, but ignores the fact that when facing human opponents at hand gun ranges, shot placement is far more important than caliber or bullet power. Assuming a minimum of 12-13 inches of penetration, unless the round is going very, very rapidly (i.e., in excess of 2000 fps), WHAT the bullet hits is far more important than HOW HARD it hits it.

The typical cop or the typical GI isn't going to shoot a 10mm gun as well as a 9mm gun, and neither the military nor most police forces are likely to offer the levels of training, supplies or time needed to develop the required skills to make them effective with 10mm semi-autos.

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I agree that shot placement is paramount

....but the fact that FBI Barbie can’t qualify with 10mm is of zero interest to me

I want a 10mm M&P

I don’t need a reason
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I want one! I carry my 4" 29-2 in the woods and having the option of the M&P in 10mm would be nice especially for fly fishing and camping. Other than grizzly country I would feel okay having the 10mm. Would be lighter when predator hunting since bears are typically catching some Zs during that time and mt. lions or wolves shouldn't be a problem for the 10. Full size M&P for me in 10mm, please!
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I'm not sure there's a market for it. If someone wants a 10mm, there are already too many good choices out there.

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Maybe not an M&P, but Ruger is making a 1911 in 10mm. I haven't held one in my hands yet but have looked at them on their web-page. I'm just not a big fan of black plastic guns I only have one plastic handgun and it's a XDS in 45 ACP.
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If this forum existed in 1935 there would have been thousands of posts asking "why do we need this 357 magnum?". It's just going to shake my N frame to pieces. Everyone is making 10's now and there are lots of factory choices for ammo. One of the aspects of introducing new calibers that no one ever talks about is that it brings attention to the platform. Someone reading an article in American Rifleman about the new 10mm M&P may not want a 10 but it might make them look at the gun in another caliber. I would not be surprised at all if Smith introduces an M&P in 10mm.
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Someone reading an article in American Rifleman about the new 10mm M&P may not want a 10 but it might make them look at the gun in another caliber. I would not be surprised at all if Smith introduces an M&P in 10mm.
I've never bought a gun in a smaller/less potent caliber because it was offered in a more-potent caliber, nor have I heard of anyone who did. I put a few rounds through a S&W 500 magnum once, and it didn't make me want to rush out and get a S&W 686. I also once had both 9mm and .40 cal. M&P Pros, but I got the .40 because I liked the 9mm I already had so much. Once I got the .40 I found that I liked the 9mm version better, and later got rid of the .40.

While S&W once offered a 610 revolver and the 10XX series of semi-autos -- I once had a 1073 -- there aren't ANY 10mm weapons in the current S&W catalog. You WILL find a bunch revolvers that use potent rounds: 41 magnum, 44 magnum, 44 S&W Special, 454 Casull, 460 S&W Magnum, 500 S&W magnum and 500 S&W Special.

While the 10mm enthusiasts here on the forum really want an M&P in 10mm, I think S&W is far more likely to say, "been there, done that" and spend their development and marketing money elsewhere.

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Yep. I'd take one or two. Maybe. I do like my 10MM Rock Island Armory 1911 double stack 16+1 with 6" slide. It's a heavy beast of a gun and a fine shooter too.
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