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Old 12-05-2014, 10:18 PM
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Hello, Has anyone have this for there shield? What do you think about it?

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Old 12-06-2014, 12:50 AM
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This is the second thread I have read on this guide rod springs advertising.

1. There is no plastic in the Shield guide rod spring assembly.

2. If your having a problem with the guide rod assembly, contact S&W and they will likely send you a new set.

3. The price is very high and what will it improve?

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Old 12-06-2014, 02:51 AM
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Thanks. I think I will save my money.
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Old 12-06-2014, 10:00 AM
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This is the second thread I have read on this guide rod springs advertising.

1. There is no plastic in the Shield guide rod spring assembly.

2. If your having a problem with the guide rod assembly, contact S&W and they will likely send you a new set.

3. The price is very high and what will it improve?

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3. Is always my question too. What is wrong with the original? Why change it?
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:39 AM
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For $25 the rod should have a new spring installed. Not re use the customers old spring. I like the idea of the stainless rod, but not just the rod at that price. Pass
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they are now drop in replacement kits for $39.00 I just got one for my shield 9mm just in case I have any issues with the stock one.
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Old 12-21-2016, 12:34 PM
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I was just lookingoing at these on amazon. Part of the description reads,
"Replacing your factory hollow steel guide rod with a solid stainless steel guide rod adds extra weight under the barrel. This can help reduce recoil, which in turn equals less muzzle climb when rapid firing. We are introducing our unique design with a single spring and our custom designed washer that will not allow the spring to ride over the head of the captive screw, making our design a TRUE captive stainless steel guide rod. Made in the U.S.A."
I'll get it and let you all know if it makes a difference.
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I have the performance center and it says it's not for use in them?
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Old 12-21-2016, 03:24 PM
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I have the performance center and it says it's not for use in them?
I saw that also, I asked them about it, and the response was they had a customer who had an issue, so they put that on the site until they are sure. I'm pretty sure both standard and PC, Shields use the same guide rod and spring (They look the same to me), but I can't verify that for certain/
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:07 PM
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I bought a SS rod for my Shield 9mm PC. Far easier to rack the slide. I've put @150 round thru it since installing it and no issues so far.
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Old 01-21-2017, 02:44 AM
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I bought a SS rod for my Shield 9mm PC. Far easier to rack the slide. I've put @150 round thru it since installing it and no issues so far.
That might be worth the price alone. Damn... those slides are stiff.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:31 AM
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The website says "NOT recommended for your with +p ammo". If that's the case I don't understand how the same spring can work for the .40 Shield if it can't handle 9mm +p.
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Old 01-21-2017, 04:30 PM
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Fair question.Maybe email them and inquire?
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Old 01-21-2017, 04:49 PM
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Just got one in the mail today, no chance to shoot it yet, but it racks a lot easier. 5/13/2017 Finally got the Shield out to shoot. Seemed to be a little less recoil, no problems with 50 rounds . My buddy has a 9 mm Shield so we tried it in his with the same results. Think I will put one in my daughters 40 Shield.

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Old 01-21-2017, 04:53 PM
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Please, please give us a shooting report when you get the chance! I just ordered one this morning after shooting my new Shield 9 yesterday and experiencing the lock back issue. Would love to know how the stainless guide rod performs.
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Old 01-21-2017, 05:21 PM
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Ive been using for about a year. Definitely makes improvement on slide raking ease. I primarily bought it as a back up to my stock rsa, but I left it in after testing. I definitely see at least a significant improvement on racking ease, recoil......questionable. I was paranoid about my stock assembly because of issues at time of my shield 9 manufacturing. No problems through this piece throu 500+ rounds of various rounds 115-150. Love my shield 9, but unfortunately it still grab 9c outta safe 75% of the time.
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Old 01-21-2017, 05:55 PM
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I wonder if the admonition of using +p is only for the 40S&W and not for the 9mm?
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:20 PM
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It says it IS for the performance model on their website right now
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:12 PM
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I hope all you folks putting lighter springs in your shield to "make it easier to rack" realize that if you then shoot +P ammo in your gun, you are going to batter the dickens out of your frame. And your aftermarket supplier isn't going to pay for the damage, because "you didn't heed their warning."


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Old 01-21-2017, 09:35 PM
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+P is not necessary factory guide rod or otherwise.

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Old 01-21-2017, 10:03 PM
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Bought one and put it in my wife's Shield that she had trouble racking the slide on and she says it made it a bit easier also put a slide spider on her gun and with both on it she has no problem racking the slide now btw she uses Critical Defense 115gr.
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I hope all you folks putting lighter springs in your shield to "make it easier to rack" realize that if you then shoot +P ammo in your gun, you are going to batter the dickens out of your frame. And your aftermarket supplier isn't going to pay for the damage, because "you didn't heed their warning."


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Very true and even worse if it's a .40!
There is no such thing as a .40S&W +P since the .40SW is already a "+P" round. If you see one being advertised, stay away from it.
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:51 AM
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There is no such thing as a .40S&W +P since the .40SW is already a "+P" round. If you see one being advertised, stay away from it.
Sorry, didn't mean to infer there is a +P .40, just that a regular 40 will batter the frame harder than a 9mm will.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:57 PM
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I think the more important issue is the factory spring has broken on many people. Just like the Shield magazine springs. Just run standard pressure rounds and I am sure that running 20-50 +P rounds for function testing for carry isn't going to ruin the gun. Just don't do a steady diet of them
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I shoot Winchester White box , never any "Sucker Born Every Minute Ammo" but thanks for your concern.


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Old 02-07-2017, 11:21 PM
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they are now drop in replacement kits for $39.00 I just got one for my shield 9mm just in case I have any issues with the stock one.
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Old 02-08-2017, 06:29 AM
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I have the SS guide rod. I use 124gr HST standard pressure. This SS guide rod is peace of mind compared to the failures people have reported with their OEM guide rod
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No, it is not recommended for use with +P ammo. There is a disclaimer right on their website.
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Check carefully, very carefully to see if they are for +P ammo.
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No, it is not recommended for use with +P ammo. There is a disclaimer right towards the bottom of the page.

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Never used +P in the Shield and did not like such a stiff slide. Done deal and much easer nowStainless Steel Guide Rod for the Shield without the fail fear on my CCW


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