Well I had the idea, since I saw the new 2.0 that I was going to get one, without a doubt as soon as I could find one. Then I started reading some that say the new trigger was good and some that said it wasn't bad and some said there wasn't much of a change. Plus some said the accuracy wasn't improved much. So I decide to wait to see what happens.

Then I saw a youtube on the new CZ P10C and this looks to be a very, very good gun with a fantastic trigger, maybe the best out there now, all for about low $400's, so I'm going to start looking once they become available. They won't be easy to find.

Why couldn't S&W NEW 2.0 do this. I don't want to spend $150/$200 to make the 2.0 work the way I want.

So, let me understand this. You will NOT buy the M&P M2.0 based upon internet reading where some said it was good, and some say it was as good as the M1.0, but not much better. But, you WILL buy the new CZ based upon one You Tube?

And, what do you mean by "spend $150/$200 to make the 2.0 work?" The M&P M1.0 worked quite fine. It did not require a single one of the varied after market products to make it "work."

Now, I see that you have only 8 posts, so I will say welcome, but I will not agree with you on your comments.

The M1.0 works fine (I know from experience). The M2.0 is getting good reviews, but I do not have first-hand experience with it. But, I am not going to go around bad-mouthing S&W without first-hand experience.

I also see that you posted this in another thread:

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I, for one, will not do a "dust up" or "hit job" on S&W without first handling the M2.0.

I cannot support you doing so either.

*Quoted post above by cash71 from: M&P 9fs or M&P9 2.0

My M&Ps are good enough accuracy for steel matches and self defense.
If you are looking for bulls eye shooting, you need to go a different route.

As for a CZ.......anything less than a SP-01 is worthless

Why don't you just buy a Canik TP9SF then? They've been around for a while and are proven to be reliable pistols, they have an extremely good trigger out of the box, and it seems like chasing a deal seems to be your biggest priority, and the price point blows the new CZ out of the water at $350. Although I guess it is much easier to just complain and try to trash talk a pistol that you have never handled but some youtuber "experts" have said isn't that good.

I waited a long time to buy a M&P 9FS, reading reviews and forums, asking questions and talking to people who own them. I had made the decision to buy when the 2.0 came out and I bought it. I couldn't be happier with my purchase, trigger feels very good and it is a joy to shoot. Put a couple hundred more rounds through it last night and it continues to perform flawlessly and accurately.

[QUOTE=shawn mccarver;139422085]So, let me understand this. You will NOT buy the M&P M2.0 based upon internet reading where some said it was good, and some say it was as good as the M1.0, but not much better. But, you WILL buy the new CZ based upon one You Tube?

And, what do you mean by "spend $150/$200 to make the 2.0 work?" The M&P M1.0 worked quite fine. It did not require a single one of the varied after market products to make it "work."

Now, I see that you have only 8 posts, so I will say welcome, but I will not agree with you on your comments.

The M1.0 works fine (I know from experience). The M2.0 is getting good reviews, but I do not have first-hand experience with it. But, I am not going to go around bad-mouthing S&W without first-hand experience.

I also see that you posted this in another thread:

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I, for one, will not do a "dust up" or "hit job" on S&W without first handling the M2.0.









I'm reserving my decision whether to buy the 2.0 until I see what the 2.0 is all about. My decision to do this was based on many posts here and other forums, not just one as you say.

I've owned 8+ M&P's, including a couple M&P 2's over the years and I know exactly what they are and I'm not spending hundreds of dollars improving the 2.0 only to lose the money when I sell it. I hoped S&W would have addressed this trigger/accuracy issues since the other guns on the market, i.e.. PPQ, VP9, and now the CZ have.

Changing triggers and other internals in guns opens up liabilities for the owner. So I would rather buy a gun that has all these improvements already built in.

I'm not rejecting the 2.0 I'm just waiting to see if this is another case of a new gun not living up to the hype or not.

go on, tell me more

It's been well known that if you change the trigger and other parts in your gun and it happens to be used by you in a self defense or in other issues and someone is hurt, you are putting yourself in danger of being litigated for making the gun un-safe because of the items you changed, that is a position the prosecutor will take. This will not happen if the gun is un-altered.

Ummmmmmm.....bull

There was a recent thread specifically about the Apex trigger in M&Ps where an attorney weighed in and dispelled that myth.

ummmmm no, that's horsiepoo.

Good shot, no one cares (except the "victims" family of dindus).
Bad shoot, yeah, you are screwed anyways and a mod wont make a difference.

Take the YouTube videos with a grain of salt. I played with a 2.0 yesterday and the trigger was excellent. The entire gun felt great. If you watch videos on the HK VP9 everyone says that it has one of the best triggers available. I've owned 3 VP9's. None of them had a great trigger. They all had a hitch halfway through the pull that was annoying as hell. I wouldn't believe the hype about the CZ trigger just yet. They are being praised by people that have been given trips and access by CZ to do reviews.. Those reviewers are unlikely to knock the gun.

I doubt anyone that is "into guns" doesn't go to youtube to see the reviews or go to forums to check out what people have to say about guns they're interested in.

I didn't do any trash talk about the 2.0. No-one has said the 2.0's trigger is even close to the best triggers offered by 4/5 of other Mfg's today. I just asked why not

I said this in another post I had a M&P F/S made in 2013 and I thought it had one of the worst triggers ever and not accurate I think due to the trigger (me) a few days ago I bought a 2.0, 4.25" put about a 100 rds. through it no problems trigger was ten times better them my first one accuracy was very good I left the range and trade it on a 2.0 FDE 5" on my way to pick it up now, traded because I wanted the safety. (other then the trigger the m 1 had no problems)

You do whatever you like and if you want to believe that attorney then believe him, you know attorneys are never wrong huh! But you know, I know there is a loser attorney in every trial, isn't there. To me that's about 50%. Of coarse attorneys get paid whether they are right or wrong, don't they!

For me I stand on what I say and I know differently and I'm not going into a long prolonged discussion about it.

I finally got to handle the 2.0 this afternoon at my LGS and was impressed. When S&W came out with the M&P9 years ago I bought one followed by the M&P9c (my EDC). The only thing I ever did to them was sending them to Robar for their NP3 finish. They have been great pistols and after several thousand rounds through each they've given me years of trouble free service. That said the new 2.0 definately has a better trigger than the original and finally a reset I can hear and feel. The grip texture I feel is a big improvement also with no need for stippling or grip tape. As soon a S&W comes out with a M&P9c 2.0 I will be buying one.
Someone in a previous response mentioned the Canik TP9 SF as a good deal and I have to agree. I bought the new Elite version and for the price point these are very good, high quality pistols right up there with several others. I'm just glad we have so many good options now when it comes to striker fired pistols other than Glock. The new CZ P10c coming out soon looks to be a serious contender knowing CZs track record so I look forward to getting my hans on one next month hopefully.
In closing I applaud S&W for continuing to develop the already good M&P line, they're are going to sell a lot of these.

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