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Old 02-10-2017, 12:33 AM
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Carrying the new 2.0 with the textured grip concealed is not exactly pleasant. I carry in a Remora holster, and the grip is rubbing my skin raw with the texture. What are you guys doing to mitigate this issue?

It's hard to tell that my Shield backup is even there, but the 2.0 is seriously bothering me. What can I do, short of sanding down the grip, to make my 2.0 tolerable? I may have to end up switching back to a Glock as my primary if I can't solve this relatively easily.
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Another question on the textured grip.....how easy is it to lightly sand the grip. Meaning does it sand easily like wood and just leave dust behind. I'm guessing if I take 800-1000 grit sand paper and just knock off the very tips of the texture would be all that's needed?
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Carrying the new 2.0 with the textured grip concealed is not exactly pleasant. I carry in a Remora holster, and the grip is rubbing my skin raw with the texture. What are you guys doing to mitigate this issue?
Seriously, get a real holster, one with a sweat guard and that attaches securely to a good gun belt and that is made specifically for the FS M&P. Concealed carry is serious business.

The Remora is a cheap alternative to a real holster, perhaps suited for a small BUG or hideout gun, but nothing else. I tried a mag carrier, had it modified to fit my mag better, tried it again, and threw it away. I would not give it to anyone.

However, I would still sand that grip for concealed carry as it will snag a covering garment which leads to printing, can interfere with removing the covering, and will quickly degrade the covering or a shirt underneath. It is just way too damn sharp.

The new 2.0 sharp checkering is an S&W mistake for concealed carry, IMO. There are other ways to improve grip texture that are not so harsh, but some should involve sanding away the sharpness first, or removing it entirely and starting over with stippling or better yet, epoxy texture.

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Another question on the textured grip.....how easy is it to lightly sand the grip. Meaning does it sand easily like wood and just leave dust behind. I'm guessing if I take 800-1000 grit sand paper and just knock off the very tips of the texture would be all that's needed?
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I may have to end up switching back to a Glock as my primary if I can't solve this relatively easily.

Yeah, I'm sure a Glock is less expensive that a really good quality holster?
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Seriously, get a real holster, one with a sweat guard and that attaches securely to a good gun belt and that is made specifically for the FS M&P. Concealed carry is serious business.

The Remora is a cheap alternative to a real holster, perhaps suited for a small BUG or hideout gun, but nothing else. I tried a mag carrier, had it modified to fit my mag better, tried it again, and threw it away. I would not give it to anyone.

However, I would still sand that grip for concealed carry as it will snag a covering garment which leads to printing, can interfere with removing the covering, and will quickly degrade the covering or a shirt underneath. It is just way too damn sharp.

The new 2.0 sharp checkering is an S&W mistake for concealed carry, IMO. There are other ways to improve grip texture that are not so harsh, but most should involve sanding away the sharpness first, or removing it entirely and starting over with stippling or better yet, epoxy texture.
While I disagree with your assessment of the Remora, I would rather carry it in a purpose built IWB holster as you suggest, but this model is so new that the holsters aren't out yet...at least not the ones I have looked at.

The Remora works for me until a purpose built holster that meets my needs hits the market. I've been carrying a weapon for over half my life, so this is not new to me.

Do you have some recommendations for IWB holsters for the 2.0 that are already on the market?
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Yeah, I'm sure a Glock is less expensive that a really good quality holster?
It sure is. I just open my safe and choose one of my Glocks, holster and all...Or one of my Kimber...Or one of my S&W...you get the point.
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FS 2.0 M&P's are backwards compatible with 1.0 models.
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I hate to say it, but I was really looking forward to the second generation of the M&P. They waited so long to put it out, and then when it arrived, it had a RTF2 type of texture that was so bad that Glock discontinued it as too aggressive, the Performance Center trigger parts to give it a tactile and audible re-set, some extenders molded into the dust cover to prevent frame flexing that I had never even noticed, and some different machining to the slide.

So, let me get this right, a big whoopty-do is in order for re-programming the CNC machining of the slide, and for instructing its wholly-owned polymer molding facility to make the gripping texture awful (surely SOMEONE at S&W threw up a red flag and said, wait, Glock tried this and discontinued its RTF2)? And for adding some metal extenders to the chassis to prevent flexing? As to the tactile and audible re-set, they already had a trigger system that everyone loves on the Shield - why did they have to wait for the M2.0 to introduce that change? Answer, because they had little else they were willing to do to invest in this model which they say is their flagship semi-auto. THAT raises a red flag for me concerning who willing S&W is to invest or re-invest to make real improvements in its models.

Sorry, but I was bitterly disappointed and underwhelmed at the effort that resulted in the M2.0.

S&W should have stepped up and put the new tactile and audible re-set trigger action in a removable chassis design allowing quick change of configuration similar to the P320. A real finish on the mag tubes, and ridding the design of the tampon on the trigger return spring would have all been welcome changes. Ready availability of sights of different heights to allow adjustment for those who actually know how to shoot along with actual parts availability would have been welcome changes.

As it is, I have already lost interest.

I hate to say so, but the M2.0 is not going to be replacing Glocks or P320s in LE holsters anytime soon, and some have already said the M2.0 is already an "also ran."

Let us hope the M3.0 or whatever replaces the "flagship" has more imagination in its design.

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I got rid of mine because it destroyed a couple shirts. That is not cool in my opinion.

And do not even tell me it is the holster. Stop defending Smith & Wesson. They made a serious design flaw. The texture is far too aggressive.

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While I disagree with your assessment of the Remora, I would rather carry it in a purpose built IWB holster as you suggest, but this model is so new that the holsters aren't out yet...at least not the ones I have looked at.

The Remora works for me until a purpose built holster that meets my needs hits the market. I've been carrying a weapon for over half my life, so this is not new to me.

Do you have some recommendations for IWB holsters for the 2.0 that are already on the market?
The same holsters for the standard M&P works for the 2.0.

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FS 2.0 M&P's are backwards compatible with 1.0 models.
I was told by 2 manufacturers...Aliengear and Crossbreed..that they were NOT compatible. Now I see that Crossbreed offers the 2.0 holster, but it still doesn't cover the grip to skin contact point. I'm going to try sanding down the grip on my 2.0 and see how tha works. I was hoping for a more simple solution, such as a grip wrap. I'll update in a couple weeks after I do it and carry it for a while.
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Which more or less nullifies the point of the 2.0.

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I just bought my m2.0 Sunday after buying a PC 9 shield The day before. I love the new grip. Is it a little to abrasive, well yeah, it's brand new, of course it will be. The more I shoot it, the more it will tone down the abrasiveness. I expected it though and know it won't stay that abrasive.

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S&W originally made this pistol to compete for LE and MIL contracts. I really don't think they had Concealed Carry in mind when they made the new M&P.
As far as sanding why not try it on a grip that your not using or may never use and see how it handles the sanding.
Other than that I'll buy it from you for a $1.00.
Just so it doesn't irritate your skin.

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I'm sure rubberized Talon grips will soon be available.

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Carrying the new 2.0 with the textured grip concealed is not exactly pleasant. I carry in a Remora holster, and the grip is rubbing my skin raw with the texture. What are you guys doing to mitigate this issue?

It's hard to tell that my Shield backup is even there, but the 2.0 is seriously bothering me. What can I do, short of sanding down the grip, to make my 2.0 tolerable? I may have to end up switching back to a Glock as my primary if I can't solve this relatively easily.
I've been wondering since the announcement of the M2.0 if it wasn't really Smith & Wesson's intention for it to compete in the Army's search for a replacement side arm. It looks like it'd serve as a military side arm___ as well as for LE.
I own a Sig P320 Compact and am very impressed and satisfied with it. Excellent in every way but___I'd feel better if our miltary is equipped with American design and made in USA too. I know the N.H. plant will be building the new army choice but it's not
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I don't think any manufacturer these days , makes a full size, with deep concealment in mind....I think that's why they all have compacts and sub compacts.

Although, I'd bet the new compact M2.0 will have the same aggressive texture. We will see.
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I hate to say it, but I was really looking forward to the second generation of the M&P. They waited so long to put it out, and then when it arrived, it had a RTF2 type of texture that was so bad that Glock discontinued it as too aggressive, the Performance Center trigger parts to give it a tactile and audible re-set, some extenders molded into the dust cover to prevent frame flexing that I had never even noticed, and some different machining to the slide.

So, let me get this right, a big whoopty-do is in order for re-programming the CNC machining of the slide, and for instructing its wholly-owned polymer molding facility to make the gripping texture awful (surely SOMEONE at S&W threw up a red flag and said, wait, Glock tried this and discontinued its RTF2)? And for adding some metal extenders to the chassis to prevent flexing? As to the tactile and audible re-set, they already had a trigger system that everyone loves on the Shield - why did they have to wait for the M2.0 to introduce that change? Answer, because they had little else they were willing to do to invest in this model which they say is their flagship semi-auto. THAT raises a red flag for me concerning who willing S&W is to invest or re-invest to make real improvements in its models.

Sorry, but I was bitterly disappointed and underwhelmed at the effort that resulted in the M2.0.

S&W should have stepped up and put the new tactile and audible re-set trigger action in a removable chassis design allowing quick change of configuration similar to the P320. A real finish on the mag tubes, and ridding the design of the tampon on the trigger return spring would have all been welcome changes. Ready availability of sights of different heights to allow adjustment for those who actually know how to shoot along with actual parts availability would have been welcome changes.

As it is, I have already lost interest.

I hate to say so, but the M2.0 is not going to be replacing Glocks or P320s in LE holsters anytime soon, and some have already said the M2.0 is already an "also ran."

Let us hope the M3.0 or whatever replaces the "flagship" has more imagination in its design.
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Carrying the new 2.0 with the textured grip concealed is not exactly pleasant. I carry in a Remora holster, and the grip is rubbing my skin raw with the texture. What are you guys doing to mitigate this issue?

It's hard to tell that my Shield backup is even there, but the 2.0 is seriously bothering me. What can I do, short of sanding down the grip, to make my 2.0 tolerable? I may have to end up switching back to a Glock as my primary if I can't solve this relatively easily.
I bought a new Shield 45 and had the same thing happen. a $10 Houge slip on grip solved the problem.
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I got rid of mine because it destroyed a couple shirts. That is not cool in my opinion.

And do not even tell me it is thhttp://smith-wessonforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gife holster. Stop defending Smith & Wesson. They made a serious design flaw. The texture is far too aggressive.

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It is not too rough for my man-hands. Perfect for competition especially here in the South. Stop putting lotion on those delicate mitts.

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I hate to say it, but I was really looking forward to the second generation of the M&P. They waited so long to put it out, and then when it arrived, it had a RTF2 type of texture that was so bad that Glock discontinued it as too aggressive, the Performance Center trigger parts to give it a tactile and audible re-set, some extenders molded into the dust cover to prevent frame flexing that I had never even noticed, and some different machining to the slide.

So, let me get this right, a big whoopty-do is in order for re-programming the CNC machining of the slide, and for instructing its wholly-owned polymer molding facility to make the gripping texture awful (surely SOMEONE at S&W threw up a red flag and said, wait, Glock tried this and discontinued its RTF2)? And for adding some metal extenders to the chassis to prevent flexing? As to the tactile and audible re-set, they already had a trigger system that everyone loves on the Shield - why did they have to wait for the M2.0 to introduce that change? Answer, because they had little else they were willing to do to invest in this model which they say is their flagship semi-auto. THAT raises a red flag for me concerning who willing S&W is to invest or re-invest to make real improvements in its models.

Sorry, but I was bitterly disappointed and underwhelmed at the effort that resulted in the M2.0.

S&W should have stepped up and put the new tactile and audible re-set trigger action in a removable chassis design allowing quick change of configuration similar to the P320. A real finish on the mag tubes, and ridding the design of the tampon on the trigger return spring would have all been welcome changes. Ready availability of sights of different heights to allow adjustment for those who actually know how to shoot along with actual parts availability would have been welcome changes.

As it is, I have already lost interest.

I hate to say so, but the M2.0 is not going to be replacing Glocks or P320s in LE holsters anytime soon, and some have already said the M2.0 is already an "also ran."

Let us hope the M3.0 or whatever replaces the "flagship" has more imagination in its design.

Wow, that is a long rant just for you to say you have soft hands.

Shooting can be a dangerous and dirty sport and is often hard on your hands. It is not for everyone. You will really appreciate the texture while shooting a match in 100 degree weather and have sunscreen on your hands, not to mention when it starts to rain.

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i love the 2.0! but do hate that the grip is too sharp and rough?
i like the factory look so i don't want to add any aftermarket things on the grip! has anyone sanded the grip down so its better? how do u sand it ? would it alter the appearance or mess it up or make it look uneven and scratched up? any one have before or after pics? or advice on how to sand it down?
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Wearing a t-shirt underneath is the common approach for this. I also sometimes smooth the grip out with something like crocus cloth. It's like a really fine sandpaper. You could even use burlap, denim, etc. It's not really sanding large amount of material off, just knocking off the pointy bits.
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Look on eBay. Lots of independent makers on there with quality holsters. I got one with a 15 cant and straight cant holes in it and it's nice. Sweat guard, iwb, clip instead of loops. 23$
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Picked up the 2.0 compact a couple days ago and love the grip compared to my G19 gen 4. It really "sticks" in your hand when firing. With that being said the grip was rather harsh for concealed carry so I sanded it lightly with some 1000 grit sandpaper. You can't tell with the naked eye that I even did anything but it feels a lot better. The grip isn't as sharp but it still "sticks" in my hands like it did when I first got it.

You could try sanding it or wait for Talon to come out with a rubber grip for the gun.
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I noticed that when not wearing something underneith, when drawing 1 handed,my shirt would slide back down and cover the pistol slightly. So having a 2nd shirt or tank underneith, the outer shirt sticks to it and stays up.

Also it prevents the kydex from rubbing on your skin.

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400 grit on the texture, then a small butane torch brings back the black color.
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Just got a compact. Love it. Have 500 flawless rounds through it already. The grip was a bit rough but it is like a 5 minute fix. 5 minutes with fine sandpaper and you can tailor it just how you want it. Blow the dust off with some air and add a little oil and it looks just like factory. Done.
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TANK TOP under your shirt, really doesn't add that much weight regardless of the hot weather environment you may live in. OR sand it down a bit, OR man up and let the 2.0 grip wear down to where it is comfortable.
But the Tank top is probably the best cheapest less painful option.
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I thought about using some 600 grit on mine but didn't want to have it look bad. I don't like the way it chews up my clothes. I typically wear a t-shirt so it isn't against my skin but if sanding doesn't degrade the look I would sand mine down a little.

For me the 2.0 Compact would be a great CCW if I could reduce the roughness of the grip without botching the look of it. Does anyone have before and after pictures of the sanded grip?

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There are a lot of good suggestions here. It's interesting that when it comes to firearms, different strokes for different folks holds true to form. Many of the reasons articulated in the lengthy post above as reasons for disliking the M&P 2.0 series are the very same reasons I really like it.

The multiple suggestions above regarding the grip texture are good. I wear t-shirts all the time. Most of my concealed carry holsters are purchased with a sweat guard of some sort. You can sand the texture, use a slip on grip or even grip tape. Heck, use one size smaller palm swell and put the grip tape texture you want. I understand that there are many of use who do not wish to do such modifications to our pistols. I'm kind of that way. If you are too, the simple solution is to sell it. There are plenty of suitable and awesome alternatives to the M&P. Don't feel married to a particular model of pistol if it doesn't provide the satisfaction you desire.
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I thought about using some 600 grit on mine but didn't want to have it look bad. I don't like the way it chews up my clothes. I typically wear a t-shirt so it isn't against my skin but if sanding doesn't degrade the look I would sand mine down a little.

For me the 2.0 Compact would be a great CCW if I could reduce the roughness of the grip without botching the look of it. Does anyone have before and after pictures of the sanded grip?
Sanding does a fine job at taking the biting edge off the grip. And it doesn't degrade the look. You're just knocking off the needle point tips. Has definitely helped me when not wearing tucked in shirt. Also prevents raw spots on my hands during long range days.
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1. Mama taught me to always wear my underwear (t-shirt).
2. Proper holster
3. I have several 2,0’s. After spending only 5 minutes buffing the sharp edges off of one of them, and seeing how much better it was for ME, I quickly did all the others. Sand them, then use air or old toothbrush.
4. These are really great pistols!

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Remoras are great holsters. They make one with a sweatshield that comes up a little higher on the skin side.. cheapest solution would be to lightly sand the existing grip, or cover it with the Talon.
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Remoras are great holsters. They make one with a sweatshield that comes up a little higher on the skin side.. cheapest solution would be to lightly sand the existing grip, or cover it with the Talon.


I have a 1.0 with Talon grips. My dislike is the rubbing from the grip even with a t-shirt on. It’s just the nature of the beast.


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I cut a piece of bicycle inner tube and custom fit it to mine. No more rub. I stole the new tube from wife's spare bike stuff. Don't tell her.
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I tried the 2.0 grip ....hated it....too aggressive.
I bought a 1.0 and it was cheaper. win win
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I wear a t shirt and that talon grip still chews me up throughout the day.


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Bought one of these for my M&P 9c 1st gen when I bought it a few years back. Cool thing about it......it works for all 4 of my M&Ps, including the 2.0 compact. I've worn it all day under a t shirt against my skin with no chafing or rash.



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Bought one of these for my M&P 9c 1st gen when I bought it a few years back. Cool thing about it......it works for all 4 of my M&Ps, including the 2.0 compact. I've worn it all day under a t shirt against my skin with no chafing or rash.



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That holster reminds me of my AG. It’s comfortable but there is no way I am wearing it with just a T-shirt for cover. All that padding and material sticks out like a sore thumb. I have better conceal-ability with my OWB holster than I would with yours or my AG IWB. Since yours is a little smaller and only single clip it may not be as bad as the AG. Not meaning to be offensive as I am sure the holster is comfortable and nicely made but these are not very concealable.


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