I just got to the range to shoot my M&P 9 full size. While shooting it, I had issues with the spent casings just dropping to the side. They would not fly out like on my M&P 40. They were hitting my hand and at best, hitting me in the face or falling down my jacket. I tried different grips, thinking I was limp wristing, but I was not. No matter how firm I was, it was the same result. Any ideas here?

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Sounds like the ejector isn't hitting the casing when the slide comes back

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The ejector looks correct.

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any dirt or built up around the ejector?

Shouldn't be. It is a week old, brand new, unfired gun. Just bought it earlier in the week, cleaned it up, and brought it to the range yesterday.

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Call Smith & send it back.

Ejector, extractor needs work.

A gun that ejects brass into your face is a great way to develop a flinch. Also a great way to get burned.

This isn't uncommon on these guns

What kind of ammo were you using? I had a similar experience with my FNX-T 45 when it was new. However, poor ejection only happened when I was using lower-velocity rounds. It never happened with high velocity rounds. I stuck with the high velocity stuff for the next 500 rounds until it was broken in. After that, even the low-velocity rounds ejected normally. Stick with high-velocity rounds for a while (use +P ammo, if necessary), and see what happens. You might want to start with Winchester FMJ NATO rounds. They're affordable, easy to find, and reach +P muzzle velocity (1140 fps) though they're not labeled as +P.

If the ejection problems persist after a few hundred rounds of high-velocity ammo, then your M&P 9 should go back to S&W.

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What, me worry?

I was using Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ. My Glock 19 was throwing them all over the place, way out and behind me, with rounds from the same box. Never had that issue with Blazer Brass. I have always had luck with that ammo, inexpensive and not real dirty, never fails to feed or eject. It did it with three rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P as well.

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I did start flinching right away.

To make matters worse, my new .40 M&P shoots all over the place. It's way low and left, or it sprayed rounds all over the map. The 9mm is a tack driver, but doesn't throw brass out like it should.

I am loosing faith in Smith & Wesson. I had a .40 once before, a couple years ago that was all over as well. My old 9mm Shield was perfect.

Maybe I need a Shield and stick to Glock otherwise.

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If it is all over it is most likely a shooter error not the firearm. Have someone else shoot it that you know are a good shooter.

We did. Same result. I always figure it's me before anything else, but you never know.

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Blazer Brass is good ammo. However, a lot of Shield 9 owners report that their guns prefer 124g ammo. The fact that the problem persisted with Gold Dot +P is a concern. I'd shoot a few more magazines full of Gold Dots to see if things improve.

Also, have you checked your ejector to see if it has a wobble? It should be absolutely immovable when you try to wiggle it. If it's loose in any way it will affect ejection, and your gun should go back to S&W for repair or replacement.

Don't give up on your M&P 40. My 40c also shot low and left until my trigger smoothed out and I got the hang of firing it. That happened between 500 and 1000 rounds, after which it became the proverbial tack driver. It is deadly accurate at any self-defense distance (out to 20 yards), and it is so reliable (one FTE and two FTFeeds in 8300 rounds), that it has become my everyday carry.

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Had the same issue with casing hitting my head. I video taped a couple range sessions and noticed the issue.

The casing were ejecting at around the 4:30/5 o'clock position. Being left eye dominant and right hand dominant in which I have to move my aim 3 inches to the left prone more casing to hit my head. After reviewing the tape sessions, I noticed that on some of my shots, there was a very slight rotation of the pistol to the left. Adjusting my grip to hold the pistol completely vertical eliminated the casing ejection issue. This happened with both my MP9C and MP Full Size.

My M&P .40 and 9c would throw brass almost to the next county, but this one particular fun just doesn't do it. Not sure why.

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Most likely the extractor isn't holding the shell on the breach face properly during recoil.

Often a slight slowing of the slide movement will cause this. Fast enough to eject and pick up the next round correctly, but with an anemic ejection. You might try just working the slide a few hundred times (while watching tv, etc.) and storing it with the slide locked back. That should weaken the spring just barely, may be all you need. And as said earlier, ensure clean extractor and ejector. If this fails, then back to S&W.

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Give it a complete thorough cleaning. Then shoot it again.

Don't laugh until you've tried it.

Happens more than you think.

I had the same problem with my M&P 9c. I sent it back and they polished the ramp - no improvement. I sent it back again and they said it didn't need fixed, it was fine. I installed the APEX extractor and had a little improvement, but not much. I installed the APEX sear in hopes of a lighter, smoother trigger and got both PLUS the spent shells started ejecting correctly and consistently. I don't know how the sear would make any difference but it was apparently the missing part of the recipe.
I'm very happy with my M&P 9c now but I will never buy another M&P after the way S&W treated me.
I also had to smooth off the top of the barrel hood where it enters the slide during firing. It had burrs that kept getting worse. I used a fine file and a fine Arkansas sharpening stone. Poor quality control, as far as I'm concerned. I've never had that problem with any other 9mm semi-auto pistol.

I am considering selling my M&P 9 and 40 and getting a Glock 19 and 22.

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Why? Seriously, what can the Glocks do that the M&P can't other than cost more?
I guess it's a status thing.
I've owned Glocks and if you read Glock forums you'll soon find out they have just as many issues.

Make sure you get the USA versions.

I have lost all faith in Smith & Wesson. And for me, they are the exact same price. I won't list them here, but five M&P's and five different sets of issues. Some may not seem like much of issues, others might, just that to me, it's five too many. I have owned and to this day, own several Glocks, and they have never given me one single issue. That speakes volumes to me.

On another note, I am going away from the 9mm in favor of .357 Sig, and mainly .40 and .45, along with one 10mm.

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You're just one individual who happens to own two or three Glocks that haven't failed. Not every Glock owner experiences the same performance of a Glock just as you did not experience the same with S&W.
it's whatever floats your boat but I think you're most likely a Glock fan from the get go and decided to try S&W and didn't have a good experience. The Glocks I owned couldn't stop throwing brass on me and that's after several trips to Glock for repairs. I was more than happy to sell mine.
I'll take a S&W or XD over Glock any day.

Good luck

Why the USA? Both are identical.

I did the same thing. Got rid of the M&P. Didn't care for the grip inserts and the compact had too short of a grip.

Yes the NEW 4th gen 9mm Glocks had ejection issues.....brass to the face ....Back in 2010. That's been largely fixed but some are still floating around. It's a simple fix however, at least for me it was. Don't buy gen 4. My daily carry is a 15 year old gen3 G19. No brass to face issues.....In fact....no issues. My back up in case this one needs work is a 24 year old G19. They are not perishable, they don't go bad and most owners never shoot all that much anyway. Out of 8 Glocks that I own only one was bought new. All others are used. I'd rather spend $300 on a used one and put the rest of the $$ into ammo

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Because they're made in the USA. Other than that it's stamped on the slide. USA instead of AUSTRIA
Lol

Only reason I won't have an XD is the backstraps safety. Besides that, they are fantastic. I have over the years owned over 20 Glocks. All with at least 500 rounds through them. None of them had issues. I am sure not every Glock is Glock perfection. However, they have been for me, so I have to stick to what I trust more. That has lead to my decision.

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Lol whatever

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No XD because of the grip safety? Why?
I have to know.
Never had an issue with them. I know you hear about the mythical stories of it not engaging because of the way you grip it. Right?

You know it's NOT made in the USA right? It's not even a USA gun. Just Springfield buying the exclusive rights to sell it




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Right. But they're sold by Springfield Armory a USA company.

I just like the Glocks with USA stamped on them

Waiting to see if they ever release the Glock 17M and 19M but I heard they were recalled because a PD said the slides were falling off while dry firing. They claim it's the new RSA they use

I have an XD9 and the backstrap safety is not noticeable at all. I've never had a problem with it or any other part of the pistol. If you hold the pistol correctly, you don't even notice the backstrap safety any more than you do the Glock style trigger safety. The only mod I've done to it is to install the PRP trigger kit for a lighter trigger pull with much better break and reset. Fantastic gun.
I also own a Glock 17 Gen3 which did have a problem with ejecting brass-to-face but an APEX extractor combined with the Gen4 ejector fixed that.
Overall, both the Springfield and Glock quality seems to me to be much better. The abrasion on my M&P 9c barrel hood is horrible and seems to be a common problem with the M&P 9c and full size 9. I am very dissatisfied with S&W and their pistols. As far as price is concerned, I've found all the 9mm pistols in the same price range by shopping around on the internet which price difference not a concern.

Yet Springfield firearms are made in Croatia. Says so right on top of the slide.

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I have talked to the Glock rep at my store and the have said the 17m and 19m will be Law Enforcenr only.

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Yes, the grip is one reason.

Another being that I have heard of dirt or debris getting between the frame and the grip safety and it not being able to disengage.

Another reason is the fact that what if you were wounded. You have blood on your hand and can not get on that safety, or are weakening or whatever. Its better to get one round off than none at all in a defense situation.

Same reason I have less than no use what so ever for a handgun with a thumb safety on it. Have never and will never own one.

And for one other reason, I think the extra safety is ugly.

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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps you should go throw rocks.

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This would be my very first question? Before I did "anything" else I would try a different type of ammo.

Blazer brass, Winchester White Box, Federal American Eagle, Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P, Federal HST 124gr standard pressure. Remington full metal jacket, Remington Golden Saber, and two others. I have run quite a few rounds. Its done this since round #1 out of it and right to the last round.

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OK, it's time to strip it down, clean it thoroughly, inspect for unusual fit and rubbing, lube well, and take it to the range again. If that doesn't fix the problem, return it to S&W.

^^^^ Agree 100%

That thing should NOT have any issue eating any brand of ammo.

Only the XD9. Historically, the XD-9 began life as the HS-2000. However, the timeline starts with 1991 when I.M. Metalworks (Karlovac, Croatia) introduced the PHP which had a few quality control problems due to the ongoing Croatian civil war. In 1995, the refined HS-95 replaced it. The final version was designated as the HS-2000. Shortly thereafter, Springfield Armory acquired importation rights and re-designated the HS-2000 as the Springfield Armory XD-9 and imported it into the United States.

I always do that before going to shoot it for the first time. Clean them up real good, make sure the firing pin area is clean and everything, make sure it's properly lubed and everything.

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I went to two of my local shops today, and every XD, XDm, and XDs were made in Croatia.

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I do believe that's correct, as my Springfield XDM 45 is made in Croatia. I was totally aware of that, before purchase. As to Glocks, we own a 43. My wife adopted it, as I prefer the grip angle of the M&P's. And no loss of love for S&W here. I have a 40 CORE, 9mm & 45 ACP Shield, as well as a model 60 357, and a 1911 E. Been no problems, and never have sent any back to the factory.

Then it's time for plan #B, send it in with a note describing the problem.
Please let us know here what happened.

I checked the little silver ejector and it is a tiny TINY bit loose. It hardly moves, if I put enough pressure on it.

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I gave up on it. Sold the gun.

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