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Old 03-13-2017, 05:23 PM
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Hello. Interested in input from experienced Shield owners who have tried or used either or both of the grips noted in the subject of this thread. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Ed
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Old 03-13-2017, 05:28 PM
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Probably depends on what you are looking for. I have never used the Hand All but I believe it will add thickness to the grip area.

I have used the Talon grips, on my Shield, Glock 43 and a Glock 19, and love them. I would go with the less textured version because the sandpaper one is pretty rough against the skin/clothes.

The main complaint with them is that they don't stick like they should at times but I have never had that issue with mine.
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Old 03-13-2017, 05:32 PM
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Talon Grip is much better in my experience with my Shield 9. It installs easily, stays in place even after many holsterings and range outings in all kinds of weather and provides just the right grip (I got the rubber textured ones, not the granular ones which some say are too rough). I also put them on my M&P Bodyguard 380.

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Old 03-13-2017, 06:20 PM
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Both my Shields (9 & 45) wear talons (rubberized)..before that my Glock 26 had then. If applied correctly they will never give you a problem... I am a believer. To the point that if talons are not available I won't purchase the weapon.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:26 PM
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If you are only looking to improve a range gun (which a Shield really is not), the Hogue will work OK if that's what you want. The grip feels good and of course is bigger. This is good for improved grip on a single stack, but most people buy single stacks to BE thin, so why make them thick?

My experience with a few Handalls is that eventually they slip down the grip and interfere with mag insertion. Had this happen three times in different IDPA matches over a year or so before I wised up and stopped using them.

ETA: I am guilty of "smacking" my mags home in competition and self defense practice. If the Handall grip can move, and it can, it will. If you just shoot at the range and in a very deliberate and controlled manner insert your mags, the Handall will not move.

As well, for concealed carry, I found the rubber grip to be very tacky and to grab covering garments, which for me was not desirable. I also did not like the finger grooves influencing my grip.

The Talons have been great. Eventually they will start peeling. Just replace them. I don't buy the aggressive rubberized ones for the same reason as above--they can interfere with covering garments.

ETA 2: The Hogue Beavertail feature may be comfortable, but it slightly pushes your hand lower on the grip. The highest grip possible is helpful for controlling recoil flip. This is a personal comfort preference and not a big deal--just another thing to consider.

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Old 03-13-2017, 07:09 PM
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I just installed a hogue on my shield. I have to say, what CB3 says is likely sound advise. Would have been nice to read that last week.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:16 PM
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I installed the newest Hogue beaver tail version designed for the Sheild 9/40 . I could not get comfortable with where the finger bump was on the grip . I have some Talons ready to go on. Plus Hogue takes some real effort to get on .
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:16 PM
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Haven't tried Hogue, but the Talon grip makes my Shield feel like a whole new gun - in a good way.


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Old 03-13-2017, 08:21 PM
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Thanks very much to all who posted their experience...Yes, I have been concerned about possible slippage with the Hogues. That said, I was concerned that the subject would not make sense because the doggone autocorrect feature changed and used "lt" instead of the term "Jr." originally submitted. Anyway, your replies are very appreciated. Best regards, Ed
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:46 PM
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In response to slippage as I said they were very hard to put on I don't think slippage would be an issue. What bugged me the most was the finger bumps on the grip.
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I had talon grips in different arms but I like hogues grip better, I currently have one on my FS 9mm and recently added one to my shield. I love it, the grip is much better now.


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Old 03-13-2017, 10:29 PM
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I have Talons on 3 handguns. I tried the Hogue Hand All on one, I think it was the Gen 2 Glock 17. Didn't like it. Very difficult to install. Wouldn't stay in place. Made the grip too big and bulky.

The Talons on my Shield are great. Non slip grip without any added bulk. After 3 ½ years, and 2200 rounds, still in place. Go with Talons, you won't be disappointed.
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I have to put my vote in for the Hogue Beavertail grip. When I first got it I thought this thing is never going to go on, it's too small. It does take a little effort, and placing it in hot water for a couple of minutes, but once you get the knack of installing it, it's well worth it.
I wanted something that looked good, and something that gave me a little more to grab on with the Shield. I've seen too many pictures of Shields with Talons that just looked bad because of the seam where they overlap the back of the grip. I've also heard of way too many people saying that the Talons eventually start pealing because of that seam.
It does not slide down once installed. In fact since putting it on my Shield I have shot quite a few rounds and it hasn't moved at all, and it does not interfere with the magazine at all. It adds a little needed girth to the narrow grip of the Shield and it looks like it was something that the Shield came with from the factory. I can't say enough good about the Hogue Beavertail grip.

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+1 to Talon Grips. I don't have one on my shield yet, and not sure I'll need one as the grip suits me just fine for now. However on my SD9VE, I had to get one because that grip is like shards of glass! After 2 clips on the initial range visit my right hard was all red and just hurt like a mother!

Now that I put the Talon Grip on, it's a 100 zillion times better.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:36 PM
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Been very happy with the Talon grips. I have them on 5 of my handguns and the grip is much improved without adding extra width.

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the talons are great, I have them on my shield but I also have a pachmyr sleeve on it. Once I fattened up the grip a little bit I started shooting
much more accurately. With the Talon rubber underneath it the sleeve moves very little, even after shooting 150 rounds at a time with it.
I EDC a 9C and an XDM 3.9C .45 as well so even with the sleeve on my shield feels paper thin to me compared to my other 2 pieces.


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Old 03-14-2017, 03:59 PM
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I had talon grips in different arms but I like hogues grip better, I currently have one on my FS 9mm and recently added one to my shield. I love it, the grip is much better now.


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Old 03-23-2017, 07:03 PM
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Holy Smokes! Worked harder getting the HandAll It grip on the Shield than I did all day at the mill, however, I'm satisfied with the feel of the grip and the placements of the shots, finally. Thanks for the information.
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I just tried the Hogues. Had them on for 2 days and took them off. Made the single stack gun feel almost as big as a double stack (in which case I will take the extra rounds). I have either Talon grips or Traction grips on most of my guns. Soon they will be on my 3rd Shield too.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:31 PM
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I needed the little bit of width to fit my hand better, which these grips were the ticket. Now my trigger finger hit correctly and I'm not moving the gun when I squeeze.
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Hogue Handall (beavertail wasnt out yet)....and thats for a girlly girl!!!
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I just installed a hogue on my shield. I have to say, what CB3 says is likely sound advise. Would have been nice to read that last week.
Put a drop of super glue under the Hogue, on the backstrap and the front, and it won't move again.
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I completely concur with the remarks by KELSW.

In addition, I find the overall feel of the Talons to enable my hands to better control my Shield after recoil than the Hogues.
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I have the Talon grips on all my other pistols and the AR. I actually took them off the Shield to try the Hogue grip.
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I like the Talon's nice traction, and nice feel. I follow the directions, clean it well, heat them with the heat gun afterwards while applying some pressure, and thousands of rounds (and in the case of my Shield, EDC IWB for the last 4 months) and they look the same as the day I put them on.
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Put a drop of super glue under the Hogue, on the backstrap and the front, and it won't move again.
As an old Mountain Biker, the trick I learned for installing tight grips and keeping them in place on the handlebars, over rough terrain was....hair spray.

By spraying the inside of the grip at installation, the hair spray acts as a lubricant for sliding it on. Once it dries, it acts as a semi-permanent glue. The beauty is, a little water or extra pressure will break the hair spray hold, making the grip removable. Super glue is way too permanent for my tastes.

That being said, I use the Talon. I love it. It has worked flawlessly and the newer version does not have the seam on the backstrap...so, no peeling.
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There is no need for any type of glue, I rubbed a bit of CLP inside the hogues grip and it slide it in very easily. I carry my gun every day, and shoot once or twice a month and it has remained in place.


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Talon works for me, no problems with it since day one. I just wish my shooting problems were so easily solved!

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I got a new Shield and thought I'd get some grips. I usually get the rubberized. So I ordered some ,I thought. I guess I screwed up and ordered the Sandpaper grips by mistake. I thought well maybe as long as I have them I'll give them a try. Frankly I love them. Your hands could be soaking wet and your grip is still tight. But the one draw back I found is when you CC under a shirt with no undershirt beneath . Ouch very rough on your skin when you walk or bend. So I took a sock and cut a piece of the elastic tube off slipped over the grip and problem solved.
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Have Talons on both Shields.....meh.....still slippery when even a little sweaty.....have AGRIP coming today, will put on 1 of my Shields and report back.
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After having a Hogue on my shield for a couple of weeks now, I can say I really like it. I have zero concerns about slippage and it feels like it's part of the gun.
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I recently put Hogues on my 9mm Shield and I wished I had done it a long time ago - ade all the difference in the world. They are tight as if they grew on the pistol and not only give a good grip - added just enough to the slim grip of the Shield. My pull up and getting a quick sight picture has greatly improved.
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I've tried the Pachmayr grips and liked how the squishy feel of the grip. The only problem i didn't like was grip would move around. I recently changed to the Hogue beavertail grip. So far everything stays in place. I brought the grip specific for each model. The grip for the 9 says it will fit the 45. Good luck with that. The 9 version was a little stubborn to get on. Heated up the grip and tried the Windex trick for lube. The 45 was a whole other animal. After alot of cussing it finally went on. Great addition for the Shield.
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Talon rubberized grips for me. I have them on my Bodyguard, and Walther PPS.
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Have Talons on both Shields.....meh.....still slippery when even a little sweaty.....have AGRIP coming today, will put on 1 of my Shields and report back.
Did not like the AGRIP at all, no tackiness at all....shot it this morning, cut it off after 20 rds. Stretched a piece of innertube over and its much better

I hope 2.0 has a slight Glock hump, it helps, at least for me, to automatically push my hand high on the grip with no adjusting.
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That's what I have found to work the best for me. Inexpensive too. YouTube has some videos on this if interested.
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installed the hogue beavertail on my shield the other day and really like it....tried the windex method but no way was it going on..put it in some boiling water and it went right on..it seems to be very tight!!!
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:15 PM
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installed the hogue beavertail on my shield the other day and really like it....tried the windex method but no way was it going on..put it in some boiling water and it went right on..it seems to be very tight!!!
windex didn't do the trick, I rubbed a bit of clp and it went at once, didn't wanted to heating it up afraid of stretching it. Love it so much that ordered one for my G42 and Shield 45.
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I have Talons on my Shield 45 & G4 glock 23 & Iphonr, rubber & I love them. (Even on the phone)
Hogue on my Gen 2 LCP & love it there.
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I have been trying to order a Talon grip for my .45 for a couple of weeks. Finally sent a note to Talon asking when they would be back in stock. Per Talon, they were having some sort of problem with the .45 grips and they wont put them back into stock until they resolve it. They said they would post details on thier web and Facebook sites shortly, just FYI if you are looking.
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I installed a Talon grip on my 9mm shield yesterday, I think it was the last one in town after going to four shops looking for one. Initial observation is that it is well made, fits perfect, and feels much better than the plastic stippled grip.
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I put on the Talons. Perfect feel and theyhave been on for a year and are just as good now.

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I like the Hogue. Adds just enough thickness for me. I have them on both of my Shields.
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Wow. Lots of responses and lots of opinions. All valid. I had the talons on both of my shields and love them. No complaints. Except on long range days the recoil was a bit much. They really do not mitigate the hardness of the grip at all but do absolutely help with control. I bought a Hogue with beavertail for the shield and immediately loved it. It was tough to install but it is not moving. Shot a few hundred rounds and it feels great. I bought a second for my training shield and can't see myself going back. And the extra thickness added just enough to the shiled to give me better hand and trigger finger control. Added the Magguts magazine enhancement and I am happy as can be.
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My preference is with the Talon Rubberized version...
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Why not buy both and shoot a few hundred rounds each to see which one suits you better? Use the hogue first since it doesn't use any adhesive to stay on.

Both are easy on the pocket and you can always resell the hogue if you decide the talon is better for you.

Talon rubbers user here and it's a night and day from the factory grips but I'll be buying the hogue soon just to see how that little extra girth helps.
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No ones really mentioned it but aside from a touch of girth and a nice feel, the coolest thing I like about the Hogue's is that they have molded in finger slots.
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+1 for the Hogue Beavertail grip. It works for me so I put them on both my Shields (9/40...couldn't resist the $75 rebate!). I had the Talons, but they were still a little too thin for me. I guess it's a matter of how your hand wraps around. It was tight getting them on. However, I used a hairdryer and heated both the grip and sleeve while slowly nudging it upward. For me, this grip isn't going anywhere..Also no print for AIWB CCW from the grip, but the extended mag is another story..

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Hello. Interested in input from experienced Shield owners who have tried or used either or both of the grips noted in the subject of this thread. Thanks in advance! Best Regards, Ed
Hope all is good in OP. Was back there for the holidays. Ask your self if you really need any enhancement for your Shield.
I have two and find them fine stock. It is designed as a SD piece
and when concealed carry the stock girp does well and doesn't "grab" covering garments.
This said, it is your piece and if you enjoy changing anything__go for it.
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