Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-12-2017, 11:37 AM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery

Got home with my brand new M&P 9mm Shield - I loaded up a magazine and tried to put the gun into battery. The slide would not go all the way forward.

I called S&W Customer Support - their idea was to clean the gun since I hadn't done it yet. I cleaned the gun. (It wasn't dirty - no grease or gunk in the chamber). I asked the customer support rep if they test fire every gun at the factory, which he said they do - 2 mags worth. I'm not sure how the test fired this one?

I think they didn't machine the chamber deep enough so when the shell casing seats, it's not in deep enough.

Does anyone know how deep it should be?

S&W has told me to ship it to them and they will look at it.

Pictures of the issue:
























Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:04 PM
ontargetagain ontargetagain is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: North Central Ohio
Posts: 595
Likes: 321
Liked 348 Times in 199 Posts
Default

Are these reloads?
Have you tried a completely different bullet design to see if it goes into battery?
Karl
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:07 PM
tires2burn tires2burn is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Check your ammo length. It looks long,
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:09 PM
gwpercle's Avatar
gwpercle gwpercle is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 2,792
Likes: 1,155
Liked 1,926 Times in 1,078 Posts
Default

Brand new factory ammo
Factory "reloads"
Reloads made at home

What weight bullet.

I had a 9mm that didn't like reloads of any sort , just factory and just .355 diameter bullets. It didn't like 147 grain bullets either .
It shot fine with 115 gr and 124 grain jacketed factory ammo. But not my reloads and not cast bullets .
Ammo with .356 dia. bullets did just as yours does and wouldn't close. That gun had a tight chamber and hardly any throat. I bet your's has a too tight chamber or maybe just not not quite deep enough. Should be an easy fix but it shouldn't have shipped out like that.
Gary

Last edited by gwpercle; 04-12-2017 at 12:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:17 PM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Brand new ammo, tried Remington, UMC and some Korean stuff. Same result. I don't think it's the ammo.

Does anyone know how deep the throat is supposed to be machined to in the chamber? Mine is 15.1mm, .595", I've seen some generic diagrams that show it needs to be around 16.1mm.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:19 PM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-12-2017, 12:28 PM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

L3 - E = 16.17mm

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmfracer View Post
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-12-2017, 02:20 PM
Fleetwrench Fleetwrench is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I have a m&p 9 back in 2012 had the same problem.115 ball would chamber barely hollow points not even close to chambering. Headspace good on a empty resesized case.There was almost no throat. 115 ball would just touch the rifling you could see rifling marks on the bullet.

Last edited by Fleetwrench; 04-18-2017 at 02:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-12-2017, 02:52 PM
Bonephish Bonephish is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 296
Likes: 19
Liked 126 Times in 80 Posts
Default

Ask S&W to send a Fedex label to send it in for inspection. Include a copy of your photos, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:20 AM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Pistol went back to Smith last Thursday. Probably be a few weeks before I get it back and update this thread.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 04-17-2017, 11:35 PM
Funflyer's Avatar
Funflyer Funflyer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Central Arizona
Posts: 105
Likes: 47
Liked 105 Times in 49 Posts
Default

My Shield measured .615"
Did you rack the slide and let it's full force so the extractor didn't bind? On mine, if I ride the slide forward without letting it rack, it will easily remain OOB.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-23-2017, 01:09 PM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Update:

Fed Ex brought me a box from Smith & Wesson's warranty department today. They replaced the barrel and test fired the pistol.

Tomorrow I plan to go the range during lunch and test her out.



Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #13  
Old 05-24-2017, 11:23 AM
Groundhog34 Groundhog34 is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Per my experience S&W has been putting out a small number of lemons. I do not believe they test fire every firearm, they could not have test fired yours or mine. The CS on returns is good but VERY slow indicating to me there are a good number of returns.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-25-2017, 10:40 AM
dmfracer dmfracer is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

I finally got my brand new Shield back from Smith & Wesson warranty and took it to the range yesterday along with my 9C which I purchased used but haven't shot yet.

Indoor range, 7-yards - the goal was to get some rounds through the Shield to break it in and to try out the 9C compact.

I shoot the 9C very well - 3" groups, great trigger, very accurate for me. The Shield also shoots ok, but bigger 6" groups and the trigger is heavy and not great compared to the 9C.

Not sure why the triggers are so much different between the too very similar guns - but I loved the 9C and only just like the Shield. The Shield will have it's place for daily concealed carry, but if I want to go shooting the 9C is my go to now.

I ran about 4 mags (48 rounds) through the 9C with no issues. I ran about 150 rounds through the Shield and had one failure to fire with UMC ammunition. Ran it through the gun twice and it still didn't fire. I won't be buying that stuff again. I also shot white box Winchester, some decent ammo from Korea, UMC and some Remington jacketed hollow points (carry ammo).
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-25-2017, 03:30 PM
walkin' trails walkin' trails is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,116
Likes: 1,388
Liked 482 Times in 274 Posts
Default

The 9c is a decent pistol. While I'm no expert, I would say that geometry differences between platforms account for difference in trigger press. I have both the 9c and a 9mm Shield (as well as comparable Glocks). While the Shield trigger takes a little more pressure to fire, there was not enough difference for me to have any noticeable effect on my shooting. The differences in grip shape and dimensions, for me anyway, took more to get used to. I would suggest dry fire practice 10-15 minutes a day with both. Master the stock triggers with both and your groups with the Shield will tighten up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-25-2017, 04:53 PM
nrz nrz is offline
Member
Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery Brand New M&P 9mm Shield will not go into battery  
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CT
Posts: 62
Likes: 206
Liked 34 Times in 16 Posts
Default

As walkin' trails mentioned they're two very different firearms, and the biggest difference between the two is that the 9C was used. From what I've read most triggers on all guns need a little time to "break in". Keep sending some lead down range see if it doesn't get any better. Also keep in mind the Shield is a SD pistol, some people prefer the heavier or longer trigger pull given its intended use. I've fired a couple Shields and thought the trigger was great compared to my buddies 40C.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Brand New Performance Center Sticking Open (out-of-battery to the rear)! airmanbw Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 11 02-13-2017 03:08 PM
Won't always go into battery. Shield 9. Roccaas Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 12 07-13-2015 12:58 AM
9mm Shield battery question baird Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 31 01-27-2015 04:38 PM
New video addressing Shield battery. Smitty357 Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 15 01-30-2013 01:27 PM
Shield .40 not going in to battery all the time alatour Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 4 10-04-2012 08:42 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:33 AM.


S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2015
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)