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Old 04-29-2017, 03:29 PM
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Who ever designed the 45 Shield magazine base plate needs go outside and practice falling down! I just spend 20 minutes trying to get the damn floorplate metal catch to seat in plastic slide on floorplate. The metal guides that stick out on either side are brutal on your hands. Only take you 45 Shield magazine apart if you really need to. I normall do this with all of my magazines because I like to use magslick on the inside and outside of the tube. I did take a newer magazine apart and it seamed to go back together easier but it still way too much effort is needed.

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Old 04-29-2017, 04:39 PM
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Yep. About 20 minutes and a lot of scratches on the floorplate finish. It's the extended mag. The metal floorplate is supposed to drop into the plastic extension once reassembled, but is has some nasty guides that have to fit into slots in the extension. They don't want to go in, so the floorplate rocks at an angle. If you don't understand, just try it. NO JUST KIDDING DON'T DISASSEMBLE THE MAG!
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:47 PM
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I also like to clean and lube my mags.

....the 45,s were MOST difficult to reassemble.

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Old 04-29-2017, 09:07 PM
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I reckon I must be behind the curve (or maybe behind the 8-ball) on "proper" pistol maintenance. Or am I?

In a bit over a half-century of shooting, I've never...not once...taken a magazine apart to clean and/or lube it. I've never felt the need to do that. For any brand...pistol or rifle. Or shotgun.

Matter of fact, up until I joined this forum a few years ago, I'd never even thought about doing it, nor have I personally known anyone who does this.

Frankly, it seems a bit obsessive to me. But what do I know, right?
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:21 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that struggled with reassembling the mag. I had to put it down and walk away till the next day and then try again.
If anyone knows the trick I'd sure like to know what it is.
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:48 PM
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I reckon I must be behind the curve (or maybe behind the 8-ball) on "proper" pistol maintenance. Or am I?

In a bit over a half-century of shooting, I've never...not once...taken a magazine apart to clean and/or lube it. I've never felt the need to do that. For any brand...pistol or rifle. Or shotgun.

Matter of fact, up until I joined this forum a few years ago, I'd never even thought about doing it, nor have I personally known anyone who does this.

Frankly, it seems a bit obsessive to me. But what do I know, right?
Not behind the curve at all. Its just my way. Clean the gun when new, clean the mags also. I admit the higher end names really dont need it but I have also bought HiPoints that had machining shrapnel in them. That being said I like to practice on the tactical course, shooting while moving, this means mags are ejected onto the ground. The nature of it alone requires some maintenance

And the term you were looking for is "Anal"

Everyone develops their own "way" of doing things. I dont begrudge any of em.



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I'm glad I'm not the only one that struggled with reassembling the mag. I had to put it down and walk away till the next day and then try again.
If anyone knows the trick I'd sure like to know what it is.
I had to set mine down for a few moments also

No trick, follower has to be level and you have to have it PERFECTLY lined up. (it helps if your standing on your head while biting your tongue to the left)

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Old 04-29-2017, 10:40 PM
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I don't know, I've taken all 5 of mine apart to clean the factory crud out of them when they were new. Didn't seem particularly difficult to reassemble to me.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:54 AM
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Here is my technique for dealing with these blankety-blank floor plates, as published in an earlier thread:

Shield .45 7-round magazine reassembly tip

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Old 04-30-2017, 10:18 AM
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In a bit over a half-century of shooting, I've never...not once...taken a magazine apart to clean and/or lube it. I've never felt the need to do that. For any brand...pistol or rifle. Or shotgun.
Do you ever drop your mags on the ground? Do you ever carry your gun and/or an extra mag?

In defensive shooting and competition it's quite common to drop an expended mag on the ground. When doing that it picks up dirt. Also, when carrying a gun or just a mag, it will collect lint and other dirt. That's normal.

You don't have to do it often, but every now and then it's a good idea to disassemble your mags and just wipe them out. They don't need any lube, just remove build up. Just like the gun, clean generally works better.


I remember the first time I saw someone drop a mag on the ground. The thought went through my head, "These things are expensive. I'm not treating my equipment that way." Well, I've learned that they're made for it and it doesn't hurt them. But it was an eye opener for sure.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:53 AM
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I reckon I must be behind the curve (or maybe behind the 8-ball) on "proper" pistol maintenance. Or am I?

In a bit over a half-century of shooting, I've never...not once...taken a magazine apart to clean and/or lube it. I've never felt the need to do that. For any brand...pistol or rifle. Or shotgun.

Matter of fact, up until I joined this forum a few years ago, I'd never even thought about doing it, nor have I personally known anyone who does this.

Frankly, it seems a bit obsessive to me. But what do I know, right?
I don't normally clean my mags. However, several years ago, I bought a police trade-in 4046. It had problems feeding at first, a friend recommended taking the mags apart. I swear I cleaned enough bread crumbs out of them to make a meatloaf! After I cleaned them the gun ran fine. Now I check all used mags I get.

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Old 05-24-2018, 09:51 PM
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I have run my 45 Shield for a little over a year,very hard for reliability testing. It has been perfection in that sense. Yesterday I disassembled the mags for the first time to clean out the years worth of crud and clean the followers. Same problem with the 7 rounders. Watched the video,had already watched it once in another place. tried that and all the other tips on reassembly here,and I still can't get the arms to lock into the baseplate. Everyone is correct. This is the biggest joke that S&W has ever propagated on it's customers. I've dealt with it all day and am frankly burned out on it.
If I can ever get through to technical support I am going to demand that they send me 6 round base and retainer plates at no charge as replacements and roll with it that way.Nothing like this should ever be this difficult.
What a piss poor design.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:57 PM
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This is obviously about the 7 round magazines. The 6 round magazines are as easy as any other magazines to disassemble and reassemble. I never even tried with the 7 round...I bought extra 6 round mags and took them apart to clean, replace the followers, and put on Pearce grip extensions. I like the way they feel much better than the 7 round mags anyway.
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A spritz of gunk remover and a few good shots-worth of 140#s of compressed air works for me.

I ain't lazy... I just like to do things the easy way.

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Old 05-25-2018, 07:01 AM
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:42 PM
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I made contact with S&W Tech assist today, told them the problem along with a few choice words about the design. Rep wanted to say that the baseplates were not interchangeable until I told him the mags were identical and I had already tried it . In short, the 6 round replacement baseplates an retainer plates are being sent out to me a no charge.
I'm happy.I didn't care for the 7 rounders much either due to the larger footprint on this small size pistol.
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Old 05-25-2018, 09:40 PM
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LOL, I had never taken a Smith mag apart before in my entire life until I replaced the followers in both my 45 Shield mags. Watched a video from one of our forum members, took me all of 10 minutes to complete the job. No big deal.
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Never give up! Found the magic tool.Fish hook pliers with the little tab on the end ,pulled the metal arms back and walla!
Done. A lot better than digging down into the retainer plate with any tool. Still a poor design for the most part but this worked great.
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Anyone know what purpose those little arms on the base plate serve?
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They are actually part of the retainer plate. There are grooves inside the base plate which match up,and the arms are what lock the baseplate onto the mag tube when they retract into the baseplate upon reassembly.
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