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Old 05-26-2017, 11:30 AM
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Persuade me with a Shield or BG .380 or similar small gun, including snubbys, why pocket carry is a good idea.
Which pocket?
Up and downsides?
All the time or only occasionally?
Safe?
Reloads?
Holster?
Dirt/lint?
Wear of pocket?
Snag on draw?
Draw when seated?
Comfort?
Control?
Printing?
Ambidextrous draw?
Draw when running?
Comfort when seated?
How important is being able to fire from inside a pocket?
Can firing be done in pocket if it is in a holster that protects the trigger?
Trigger pull weight?
Capacity, reload, caliber?
Hammer or hammerless?
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That's too many questions to answer in one post, but I'll address a few of them.

I find pocket carry works well for concealment.

In my non-permissive environment, if carrying in a waistband holster and my cover shirt flips up and exposes the gun, I likely would lose my carry license if I was reported. Same if I reached up to grab something from the top shelf at Walmart and my shirt exposed the gun.

Same issue with ankle holsters if your pant leg rides up.

With pocket carry in pants with fairly deep pockets there is no problem. Particularly with a pocket holster to keep the gun in place and hide it's contours.

One advantage living in an anti-gun environment where very few people carry is that no one is looking for a pocket gun printing and really there would be no way to tell a pocket gun in a holster from sun glasses in a case, or a wallet, or even a large smart phone. So you are much less likely to have a problem.

As for reloads, I just carry a speed strip in a weak side pocket, or if my pants have a watch pocket as some of them do, I carry the speed strip in the watch pocket on the same side as the gun.

If I carried a speed loader, I'd just put it in a pocket and not worry about the lump. I wouldn't have a problem with a speed loader pouch on my belt either as no one in this non gun friendly environment would even know what it was.

I haven't had much trouble with snagging with exposed hammer revolvers -- assuming I'm using a pocket holster and get into the habit of extending your thumb to clear the fabric out of the way when drawing. Sometimes I carry a shrouded hammer revolver, and then no problem. My LC9, my only pocket sized semi, doesn't have an exposed hammer so no problem there.

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The only way I carry my M38's and Centennials is in my pocket (right front or jacket).

Carrying them on the belt defeats their purpose.

I don't use a pocket holster. In my experience they add bulk, slow things down and have no upside with a M 38 or Centennial. Sometimes I'll also carry a handkerchief.

Printing is a concern primarily of the self conscious beginner. In the real world, it's not an issue (unless you wear tights) assuming the pocket is deep enough to conceal the gun.

Revolvers can be shot from the pocket (a coat pocket, not a pants pocket), although I've never heard of an instance in which it's been done in a real life sd situation as opposed to in the movies.

I don't carry a reload. In real life situations (not zombie fantacies) you need more than what's in the gun only if you plan on missing a lot.

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I've been pocket carrying a Taurus TCP (roughly same size as a BG) for 3 years now. My attire consists of mainly Wrangler cargo shorts and sometimes their long cargo pants. In a small pocket holster it is not noticeable at all and is extremely comfortable. After a couple days of carrying it you don't even know it's there, unless it's not and then you feel naked. While it's not my first choice it's much better than nothing. I prefer to carry my Shield or 40c IWB but there are times when absolute concealment dictate my choices. The little 380 is always in my pocket even when I'm carrying a larger gun IWB.

IMO the Shield is too big for pocket carry but there are those who have no problem with it. Draw is much more difficult with pocket carry when seated but it's at least as quick when standing. Plus you have the advantage of sliding your hand in your pocket and being in the "ready" position anytime things just don't feel right and nobody around knows any different.

It's just as safe as IWB or OWB providing you use a pocket holster. Mine does get a decent amount of lint build up and I typically drop the mag, empty the chamber, and blow it out with compressed air every two weeks or so. At one point I went a month and took it to the range and fired 100 rounds without issue just as a test.

Not sure about firing from the pocket. While I'm sure it could be done things are just too tight in there to try that. To sum it up, I don't think pocket carry is the absolute best option available but there may be times when it's the only way to go.
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I occasionally pocket carry a Bodyguard 380 in a DeSantis Superfly holster which has a flap that Velcro's on to make it appear rectangular, like a large cell phone. Works great in a right front or right rear pocket.: DeSantis Super Fly Pocket Holster Ambidextrous Nylon Black
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Been pocket carrying a 442 for 20+ years. When its hot, I'm in dress clothes for work, and the environment is decidedly anti-gun it is the only "safe" way for me to carry. I carry a speed strip weak side, use a DeSantis pocket holster, and practice regularly. Lint - not an issue in my experience. Drawing isn't a problem standing, walking, or running. Sitting is harder with ANY holster. As for snagging, that's what he 442/642 is made for - to eliminate that issue.
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A S&W 642 in a Kramer holster in my right front pocket of anything I put on, works for me.
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I have found pocket carry works well for an appropriate weapon. ALWAYS use a pocket carry holster, it protects the gun, reduces printing and keeps pocket lint and **** out of the mechanism. Plus it keep the gun oriented properly. I used to carry a Colt DS in a front pocket when I was walking around the neighborhood for exercise. Very fast to access and quite invisible. I would carry a speed strip or two in the offside pocket, absolutely NOTHING ELSE but the holstered gun in the carry pocket.
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I pocket carry either a Remington R51, S&W J frame (concealed hammer only) of some flavor or a Beretta 3032. The 3032 is the only one I pocket carry in a holster. Pocket carry for me is about all I do - 95%+ of the time.

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I'm not a fan of pocket carry but I recognize it as a legitimate carry method under certain circumstances. For example, in the dead of winter, a small frame .38 is easier to access from the outside breast pocket of certain winter coats (if so equipped) than the Model 1911 on your hip and buried under clothing.

If you pocket carry, you must insure that your body type does not permit the gun and/or holster to slip out of whatever pocket when seated or when bending.
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My snubby usually rides on my belt. It stays concealed even under a light weight tank top in the middle of summer.


Only time it rides in my pocket is when I'm not wearing a shirt.
Then it's in a leather pocket holster in my right front pocket.
A coupla reloads in quick strips ride in my left front pocket either way.
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To each their own. Better a brick in my front pocket than unarmed. As I said, there are times when pocket carry is all that is acceptable, other times I use a Black Arch hybrid holster and carry something more substantial than the old reliable 442.
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Pocket carry is not for me. I just feel better with a secure holster that is attached to a belt. I did pocket carry as a police officer many decades ago, never had to use it though. No pocket holster back then, the pocket was tailored to fit a small frame snub nose revolver. Our dry cleaners did the sewing for us on request.

There are advantages, and disadvantages to pocket carry, just like purse carry for women. The one big advantage I can see for both is the ability to have your hand on your weapon at the ready without alarming anyone. The disadvantage is the time to draw when not prepared.

I don't see lint as a problem as long as you turn your pockets inside out, and clean them before using the pocket for a gun.
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pocket carry a BG .380 in Remora holster. No good for driving. Nearly always have a primary OWB in a Wright holster, with the .380 as backup. Pocket carrying while driving is problematic, unless you drive standing up.
And the Bodyguard does pick up dust, lint and other debris in the hammer slot. I pocket carry every day, either as primary or backup and find it very comfortable.
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M638, front pocket in my cargo shorts works well for me.
Other methods of carry? sure, but nice to have as many options as possible. A shrouded or hidden hammer snubby accomplishes that.
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Persuade me with a Shield or BG .380 or similar small gun, including snubbys, why pocket carry is a good idea.
*Which pocket? For the Shield/LC9/G43, etc, Front Pocket is the best bet. For Mini 380s and smaller (LCP/BG, etc) I know poeple who Rear Pocket carry.
*Up and downsides? Up Side for Rear Pocket Carry: You can say you're only reaching for your wallet, when in fact... Down Side for Rear Pocket: You need to wear Long-Tailed Shirts untucked. Up Side for Front Pocket carry: Walk/Stand with your hand/hands in your pockets all the time and nobody would think anything of it. Down Side to Front Pocket Carry: You need to try on and check EVERY pair of pants you intend to buy to ensure that the pockets are large enough to shove your closed fist into and out of easily. If you can't make a fist and withdraw it, you probably wouldn't be able to draw a handgun from it.
*All the time or only occasionally? For me... All the time
*Safe? As long as it's in a Pocket Holster... Sure!!
*Reloads? I don't carry one, but sure... In a different pocket.
*Holster? For me... A DeSantis Pocket Protector
*Dirt/lint? Hasn't been an issue in the last 10 Yrs
*Wear of pocket? Hasn't been an issue in the last 10 Yrs
*Snag on draw? As mentioned above... Try on every pair of pants you intend to use with pocket carry.
*Draw when seated? If you're in a restaraunt situation, you'll probably not going to REMAIN seated, so drop to oe knee where the side you're carrying is straight and carry on.
*Comfort? For many of us... More comforable than IWB
*Control? As with ANY type of carry... Practice!!
*Printing? If wearing Snug pants... Probably. Even so... MOST people won't even be looking.
*Ambidextrous draw? With MOST Pocket holsters, one holster can work on either side. If you're talking about reaching into your right pocket with your Left hand??? THAT would be a neat trick that I'D love to see.
*Draw when running? Ya got me there... Either Draw before running, or draw after you get to cover.
*Comfort when seated? For me... No Problem.
*How important is being able to fire from inside a pocket? Not something I'd even consider, unless it's a Jacket Pocket. Would you shoot from an IWB holster?? [shrug]
*Can firing be done in pocket if it is in a holster that protects the trigger? No... Same as firing from an IWB holster.
*Trigger pull weight? Depends on the weapon
*Capacity, reload, caliber? Personal Pref... Not really a Pocket Carry Specific question.
*Hammer or hammerless? I would guess Hammerless would be preferable.

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I can answer some but not all . As far as a .380 I M H O I would not go with the Body Guard too many on going issuses. My Kel tech .380 has been flawless with thousands threw also the Ruger is an option in 380. Pocket carry the .32 , .380, and 442 all in blackhawk pocket holsters. The largest I can pull off in pocket is the LC9 again in a blackhawk pocket holster.
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I have pocket carried tiny mouseguns in .25 ACP, various .380s, and very often J-frames, and I have even pocket carried a 2" K frame easily in the right pair of pants. I am not a thin mint so nothing I wear is tight but jeans are not loose like cargo pants - I pocket carry in both with ease. When I pocket carry a mouse gun I have been known to drop it into my left front suit coat pocket but that was when i wore suits every day. Back in those days I used to have my new suits' front pockets removed to be replaced with sturdy denim. Otherwise the little gun would wear out the finer fabric quickly. I have long since stopped this practice and even if i wear a coat and tie the gun I carry is in my right front pocket unless it is on my belt. If I pocket it then it is a J frame in a leather or kydex pocket holster. Many varieties abound. I make it a point to place a square of leather in front of the holster so the outline looks way more like a wallet and when the jeans pick up the outline, as jeans will do,,it is just a square.


Which pocket? - answered above
Up and downsides? - Upside is ease of concealment (nobody sees it) and it is easy to draw. Only downside is it is hard to draw, if not impossible, when you are seated.
All the time or only occasionally? Always unless I belt carry a bigger gun.
Safe? Of course it's safe.
Reloads? In a pocket or a briefcase, sometimes. I don't usually worry about reloads. If I have that on my mind I carry a bigger gun.
Holster? See above.
Dirt/lint? Yeah, no big deal, blow it out sometimes. It won't be a problem ordinarily.
Wear of pocket? Very little. Jeans get outlines of things in pockets. see above.
Snag on draw? Practive with an unloaded weapon. It really shouldn't. See below.
Draw when seated? Virtually impossible. Bear that in mind.
Comfort? No problem.
Control? No problem.
Printing? No problem. See above.
Ambidextrous draw? Impossible unless you are a Cirque de Soleil performer.
Draw when running? If I had to. But if I am running I ain't drawing. Not a good move.
Comfort when seated? No real problem - especailly when you do it for decades. Car, couch, office chair. No big deal.
How important is being able to fire from inside a pocket? In pants? Get real. You will blow your foot off.
Can firing be done in pocket if it is in a holster that protects the trigger? No and the holster should protect the trigger and believe me, if pocket firing is what you plan to do then pocket carry in a jacket. See above.
Trigger pull weight?
Capacity, reload, caliber? I have never carried a gun with more than 7 rounds in a pocket.
Hammer or hammerless? Either will work but for the J frame the hammerless (concealed hammer if you prefer) or shrouded hammer works best.

YMMV, as I always say.
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Like all carry choices, the answers somewhat depend on the individual. Body build, size, caliber/action preference/prejudges, typical style of dress.........
Personally, I find the BG380 about the perfect pocket carry gun. Flat, rugged/scratch resistant, reliable, manual safety AND a long DA pull.
Most of all, because it's such an unobtrusive carry, it tends to go with me when others sit home in the safe.
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I carry every day in the front right hand pocket. 340 PD in a Galco horsehide pocket holster. Levi 550 jeans. You have to check out any brand of trousers you buy, the depth of the front pockets vary considerably. For example, I used to wear Levi 505s, but they shortened the front pockets to where they would no longer contain the gun. Surprisingly, the "relaxed fit" 550s were even deeper than the old 505s. I also tried Wranglers...too short in the front pockets. Tried Lee as well, no go. I haven't bought any new Levis recently, so they may have shortened even the ones that I named.

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Lint... I brush off the gun every evening with a parts brush...cotton pants make more lint than synthetic materials. But one benefit of the centennial style of gun is that it is difficult for lint to get into the mechanism.

I wear this outfit almost every day (unless I have to wear a suit, which is rarely), and no one has ever even hinted that they can see anything. Very discreet.

Downside, hard to access when seated.

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I've tried (aka "spent a ton of money") to carry in holsters and simply can't get used to it. It's uncomfortable for me. I pocket carry a 340 PD (incredibly light) and feel at ease with it which means I'm going to carry it everywhere. I've tried ALL of the various options and long ago settled on the Mika holster pictured below.

I travel for business and when I'm in my vehicle, the pistol is on the seat next to me. No way you're getting it out of your pocket quickly when you're in the car seat.






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I've pocket carried my J frames & LCP, w/a holster, for well over 20 years mostly due to ongoing back and hip problems. It works well in almost every circumstance w/the exception of sitting down. During long car trips I usually put my LCP in an ankle holster but still pocket my J frame.
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Lot of questions, what I can mainly tell you that is after trying a few different pocket pistols including revolvers I settled on the Ruger LCP Custom.

Where I carry it depends on what I'm wearing. It's either front right, back right or IWB at 1 o'clock. IWB is by far the easiest to draw from.

The LCP Custom is awesome, I will say that.
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Get a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster for the pistol you like and try it. There is no need for us to "persuade you." Try it. If you like it, do it.
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I carry a small, .45 ACP semiautomatic in a Kydex holster by Detroit Holster. It is custom made to accommodate an under-barrel laser. That gives me 5+1 capacity with over twice the power of .38 Special, and half the felt recoil. It's also about 1/4" thinner than a 442. I carry an extra, 7 round magazine in my pocket, for a tactical reload if necessary.

The largest pistol I can reasonably carry in a side pocket is a Springfield XDm2, which holds 10+1 rounds in a flush magazine, 13+1 extended. European style pants tend to have small pockets (you don't need pockets when you carry a man-purse). I check before buying.

Pocket carry is good any time, in any kind of wardrobe (even beach shorts), and you can put your hand on the grip if a situation looks dicey without scaring others, and draw as quickly as from a belt holster from that position. It's easier to reach while driving than from an IWB at 4:30.

I know all about carry under a tank top or T-shirt. If you reach further than your belt buckle, it prints. I can practically read the logo, and can count the finger grooves in a Glock. T-shirt cover is surprisingly popular in some circles, so I've had plenty of practice observing.

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In my opinion, you can't front pocket carry a Shield - it's too big.

A Glock 43 is a better pocket carry option as it fits, just barely.

For me, I front pocket carry a 438. If I need to go smaller, it's an LCP, which is undetectable. I'm sure a bodyguard would be as well.

A Shield is a great in-the-waistband gun (as is a G43).

If pocket carrying, get a pocket holster. At a minimum, Walmart sells the Uncle Mikes size 3 and 4 for $10 - it's a good place to start. There are plenty of affordable pocket holsters on ebay as well.
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Bodyguard 380 or Ruger LCP II can be pocket carried all-day, every day.

I wouldn't fire from the pocket, too many variables plus I ALWAYS use a pocket holster so getting to the trigger is a no-go until it's drawn/out.

I prefer many other styles of carry to pocket. Sometimes though, usually for convenience, pocket carry just works.
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In my opinion, you can't front pocket carry a Shield - it's too big.

A Glock 43 is a better pocket carry option as it fits, just barely.

For me, I front pocket carry a 438. If I need to go smaller, it's an LCP, which is undetectable. I'm sure a bodyguard would be as well.

A Shield is a great in-the-waistband gun (as is a G43).

If pocket carrying, get a pocket holster. At a minimum, Walmart sells the Uncle Mikes size 3 and 4 for $10 - it's a good place to start. There are plenty of affordable pocket holsters on ebay as well.
I pocket carry my PC Shield 45. I pocket carried my Shield 40 before the 45. Prior to that I pocket carried my Ruger SR40c. I wear cargo pants. The tech pocket on the left side holds the larger magazine.

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Get a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster for the pistol you like and try it. There is no need for us to "persuade you." Try it. If you like it, do it.
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I pocket carry my PC Shield 45. I pocket carried my Shield 40 before the 45. Prior to that I pocket carried my Ruger SR40c. I wear cargo pants. The tech pocket on the left side holds the larger magazine.

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Yes, with cargo pants you can pocket carry a shield. I'm sure with the right pockets someone could carry a DE in 50 cal.

With slacks or jeans, a shield is too big (for me anyway).

Fwiw, I also find the shield just on the other side of "too heavy" for pocket carry, even with big pockets.

If it works for you, stay with it. Everyone has their own comfort zone.
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My EDC is a 642 in a Galco horsehide. Reload is a speed strip in the watch pocket or lower cargo pocket or jacket pocket, strong side, depending.

I've also carried a Bersa Thunder .380 and a Remington RM380 in this manner in Desantis holsters. When in uniform I pocket carried a 2" Colt Lawman .357 in my weak side pants pocket in summer and a High Standard .22 Mag derringer in my strong side hip pocket. The Colt proved a bit of a burden and was replaced with an airweight Agent. Never noticed the rest after the first week or so.

The upside is that I don't have to give much thought to "dressing around the gun". The Galco is a work of art and drawing and even reholstering are smooth and uncomplicated. While the gun exits unimpeded, the holster requires both hands to remove from the pocket once it is in. The downside, as others have noted: it is virtually inaccessible when seated in a vehicle. I switch to IWB for known extended trips.
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My P3AT rides in my pocket when belt carry isn't an option

And when pocket carry isn't an option due to the style of slacks I waistband carry it with a clip. Not ideal but at least I have it.

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Fascinating thread for me since I have only been carrying for 6 months. I use an Uncle Mikes pocket holster for my 9mm Shield. I wear cargo shorts 9-10 months of the year and bought tactical cargo pants for the cooler months. Upper right pocket. Still not the best for a fast draw but easy to get to if I have a few seconds. I have an OWB holster and an IWB holster came with the Crimson Trace green laser I bought at the NRA Annual Meeting in Atlanta. I am going to try working with one of those. But the pocket is great for concealing in the South with minimal clothing. To date, I do not carry spare magazines unless on a road trip.
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+1 Another vote for the DeSantis Nemesis.
This holster was so comfortable for about a year. After that, it would not stay in my pocket when a practiced drawing. So I called Desantis and they told me it was only meant to last one year.

I had no problem with Remora or the Mika pocket holster.

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I use a LCP in a super thin Blue Force Gear pocket holster. Great pocket holster. They are new, so there are just a few models currently available.






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I am not a big fan of pocket carry but there are situations when its the only choice. I normally carry my sig p290 or Kahr cm40 in a Boraii holster (you can google for pics of this combination). I find drawing sitting down is slow - especially in a car with a seat belt on. It does print a bit on me and feels heavy loaded at 24oz and 21oz respectively. If you want really light weight with little or no print you need to move down a caliber to the .380. A Ruger LCP is a a good choice. Bottom line one carry option (pocket) does not always fit every concealed carry scenario. Good luck.

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I personally don't carry in my pocket - primarily because with the guns that I have, it is hard to conceal in the pocket. One thing I would want to be careful about if I did pocket carry would be ensuring there is some way to protect that trigger guard area. My preferred method of doing that is a kydex holster - but however you do it, that trigger area needs to be protected to ensure that a negligent discharge doesn't occur.
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I pocket carry a Sig P938 in my right front pocket sometimes without a holster but most of the time in a Red Turtle leather holster. I always were Duluth Trading Co. Flex jeans lots of room and deep pockets. Never have a problem.
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I used to use the DeSantis Nemisis pocket holsters for my LCP, Kahr CW380, or Taurus TCP, but the padding in the holster produces a fairly large bulge in my pocket. I have switched to Alabama holsters, which are made of .060" kydex and add close to zero bulk or weight in your pocket. The retention is just right and the holster always stays in my pocket when drawing. My largest pocket carry is a Kahr PM9, and with an Alabama holster it works well in most pants. In summer with shorts or jeans and a shirt worn out, I usually carry a shield in a small kydex single clip IWB holster in the 4 o'clock position. This is by far the most comfortable carry for me---even more comfortable than pocket carry. With pocket carry you always know there is a weight in your pocket--with the kydex IWB carry I forget it is there.
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Putting a striker fired, or even a single action semi auto in a front pocket just seems like a real bad idea to me. I'm sure plenty of people do it, but the only gun going in one of my pockets will be DAO. S&W 640, Seecamp, RM380 are all good choices for pocket carry.
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I pocket carry my 442 with an Uncle Mikes holster in my Levis 505s. No hammer to snag on anything. Also has Crimson Trace LG-405 grips. Speed strip in watch pocket or my Lobo leather belt pouch. Always very comfortable and also easy to have hand in pocket while walking around. If driving, I just remove gun and holster and set it in my cup holder of my truck. My Uncle Mikes holster is about 10 years old + and starting to look a little beat up but works. Also easy to carry in jacket pocket during cool weather.
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The fact that a gun is striker fired does not mean that it is not double action only (DAO). DAO means that the hammer (or striker) is cocked (at least partially) by the pulling of the trigger. Some striker fired guns are fully cocked before pulling the trigger, but all Kahr's, for example, are striker fired, but have a long, smooth trigger pull during which the striker is cocked.
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I think by definition if you remove the gun from your pocket and place it some place more accessible, it is no longer pocket carry.

I believe snubby pocket carry has some advantages, but it also has some real disadvantages. Inaccessibility except in certain circumstances would relegate this form of carry to a last choice for me with so many other options available in gun, caliber, and carry method/position.

In a contrasting poll pitting a small pocket carried revolver against another small gun in Appendix Inside the Waistband (AIWB) position, I think pocket carry would lose overall through multiple categories of need.

Of course each of us assesses his needs differently, and for those who have not tried a different system it's not fair for them to reject it out of hand.

I carried my wife's 642 hammerless, steel .38 for a day in a pocket and disliked almost everything about it:
Position
Weight
Accessibility other than from standing still
Low capacity
Hard to reload
Poor sights
Long, heavy trigger which reduces accuracy
Significant blast
Challenged recoil management for fast and accurate follow up shots.
Had to have just the right pants and pocket--most were not suitable.
Had to have a good pocket holster to position the gun, protect the trigger, and make drawing and definitely leaving the holster in the pocket easy. This is a technique that lends itsel to foreknowledge of the draw, not a fast reaction to an aggressive threat.
Lack of ambidextrous access.

Recognizing these and other problems, especially when dressed so a covering garment is not appropriate--needing a tucked in shirt--I found in the early 90's that a Thunderwear waist holster worked well. It is deep concealment (below the belt line) AIWB. More accessible in more situations than pocket carry (especially seated), and can carry a larger/heavier gun such as a Shield comfortably with a reload.

As mentioned before, there are always trade-offs, different experiences and opinions, but in sharing our observations we can give others options for their choices. I don't really get anything for arguing that I know the right way to carry. That's ignorant and rude.

I hope this thread has been helpful.

Carry on.
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Appendix carry is iffy for many folks. First there is body type, tactical muffin tops have great difficulty with AIWB carry. Second, AIWB carry is not really accessible when sitting unless you are rather thin from what I have seen in real world use. Third, there is femoral artery exposure. Finally, Ambi access with most holsters in my experience is a fantasy under stress.

As for weapon choice - To each there own, hence the vast array of weapons available. The 442/642 models are not meant for long-distance work. They are <7yrds and at that distance if you need sights.....well, you need to practice more is all I can say.

When I can manage it I concealed carry with a hybrid (I prefer the Black Arch with their dry backing) at 4 and my PPS and a reload weak side (16+1). When its OC I go with the P99AS and 2 reloads (45+1) - although I am going to try out my new M&P 357Sig rig for OC as its penetration is ideal and I would have access to the same number of rounds. Only range time will tell if I make the change to the M&P.
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I think the Ruger LCP II would be perfect for pocket carry. The Shield and 642 are a little big for my pockets (Wrangler Cargo). For the first 2 years, I only pocket carried. But, I changed to IWB carry and love it.

On occasion, I still pocket carry but rarely because my pants pockets are a little smaller than the ones that I used to wear. You need really deep pockets. Painter pants work out well. I used to try on pants everywhere for pocket carry.
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Does anyone use one of those kydex trigger guards on their snubby?
It just covers the trigger and is attached via a loop of para cord to your belt.
I have one but have not carried with it yet. It fits pretty tightly and I have the concern of actually pulling the gun out of my hand if I make the mistake of yanking it clear from the guard with a bad grip on the gun. That and it won't keep the gun oriented, but is does present the slimmest profile.
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Does anyone use one of those kydex trigger guards on their snubby?
It just covers the trigger and is attached via a loop of para cord to your belt.
I have one but have not carried with it yet. It fits pretty tightly and I have the concern of actually pulling the gun out of my hand if I make the mistake of yanking it clear from the guard with a bad grip on the gun. That and it won't keep the gun oriented, but is does present the slimmest profile.
I use one, usually IWB, but sometimes in a pocket. Just run the lanyard through a belt loop and remember to pull through the draw.
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Thanks for that! I just ordered one, they look very promising, especially worth trying at the price ($20 + $4.50 shipping)!

In non-permissive environments, ultimate discretion/concealment is king, and that holster looks THIN, and very well made.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer to have my G26 with a G19 spare mag in the waistband, but there's times when even my wife's 642 is too obvious for the situation. That's when the LCP goes in my pocket or on my ankle. I previously owned a BG380, and although on paper it seemed comparable in size to the LCP, in real life it feels and carries and looks noticeably bigger. Plus, I just didn't trust the reliability.
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