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Old 06-16-2017, 08:41 PM
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Any neat guy tricks to adjust (a non-adjustable) elevation?

Im 500 rounds into my Shield45 and its putting up great groups, but low-left.

Thinking its about time to bump it over a tad but have always wondered about tricks to adjusting elevation. Actually changing it, not by changing POA.

Dovetail is going to have to have a consistent dimension top to bottom to remain locked in place.

Any tips or tricks out there?
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Everything I have been able to find on the subject of low left says it has to do with grip. I have not been to the range since I found the latest hints for a better grip. I will let you know if they work. I have about 1000 rounds through mine, but shoot dead on with a CZ 75. For right now I aim at 2 o'clock on the 8 ring and drop most shots in the 10 ring. Oh yeah this is the CCW qualifier from 12 yards to 3 yards with reloading.


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Everything I have been able to find on the subject of low left says it has to do with grip. I have not been to the range since I found the latest hints for a better grip. I will let you know if they work. I have about 1000 rounds through mine, but shoot dead on with a CZ 75. For right now I aim at 2 o'clock on the 8 ring and drop most shots in the 10 ring.
All good points. I started this game just a couple years ago (with mamma) so all we have worked on is grip. Also started with the Shield9 and I have since learned thats not an entry level piece. Very aware of grip and pad placement through thousands of rounds. Introduce the 45's recently. Low left groups consistently. Correction through POA and bullseyes.

After 500 rounds I feel its time to bump the sights.

....also dead on with a CZ75 @20 ft. with a fire rate of 4 per sec. (guess what the next gun purchase is )

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Old 06-16-2017, 09:24 PM
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Most of the time it's grip, and or, the placement of your trigger finger on the trigger. Not enough of the first pad of your trigger finger on the trigger and most people will tend to push their shots low and left. Too much finger on the trigger and the tendency is pulling the shots to the right.

Study proper grip, and finger placement. You can test and practice grip and trigger squeeze at home using a dummy round/snap cap. Ensure your gun is UNLOADED. Remove all ammo from the room.

Practice proper grip and trigger squeeze. Your sites should not move when the trigger breaks. You can also practice in front of a mirror. Your stance is important as well.




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Oh yeah this is the CCW qualifier from 12 yards to 3 yards with reloading.
Thats a nice spread.

My CCW
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Old 06-16-2017, 09:27 PM
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Btw, on the Shield, Smith and Wesson does not recommend drifting the rear site to adjust windage, only the front sight.


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"Very aware of grip and pad placement through thousands of rounds"

Grip and trigger finger placement on one gun may not be the grip and finger placement on another.
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A slower moving bullet will impact higher on the target.
Once you get left right adjusted by moving the front sight you can get the up down by using a lighter powder charge. The slower moving bullet will impact higher. If you reload, if not you might try a heavier bullet. Heavier is usually slower which = higher.
It's a shoot and see proposition with fix sighted pistols.

I have a Walther P-38 in 9 mm that will only shoot dead on with a Lee 105 grain SWC and 4.7 grains of Unique...and it took trying several different bullet weights and powder charges to hit on it !
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My EDC PC Shield 45 at 5 & 7 yards.

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as someone else mentioned, using higher grain ammo will hit your target higher. Ive noticed as high as a 2 inch difference shooting my 9mm shield at 20 yards.
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Is your sight picture combat (covering the POA with the front sight)? If it is and still shoot low from a solid rest, there are no "tricks." Your only options are to install a lower FS or a higher RS (or file down the FS--which I wouldn't recommend) or just aim higher ;-). Others covered your shooting to the left.
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Regardless of how you shoot with any other pistol, your trouble is likely about 99% in your technique. The cure is careful dryfiring. Unload your pistol, choose a small target, take your usual grip and sight picture , and dryfire while concentrating solely on your front sight. It will move low and left at the "shot". Corrrect your grip and trigger-finger placement to correct this. In addition, three-dot combat sights typically shoot low if you are using the top of your sights at your intended point of impact; correct this by lining up the front and rear sights with each other, then placing the front sight dot where you want the bullet to go, thus covering up your intended POI.

The, "I've been doing this for 40 years, and it's always worked" plea is one I have used myself when I have had the low-left problem, most recently with a Beretta Pico. Guess what? I took my own advice (again), and it worked to solve the problem (again). Try it.
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