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Old 08-06-2017, 01:42 PM
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As far as I am concerned, there are NO good reasons for ANY freedom-loving, sane person to live, work, or visit, or drive through a place like NJ.

NO EXCEPTIONS.
Plenty of exceptions. It called life!

As I listed earlier....I can spend an hour to drive to NJ, and back, for a part for work OR I can wait 4 days to have the same part delivered. In the meantime no work and no work for some of my employees! That is not an option. The machines cost a lot of money and down time costs more money than to spend an hour driving. Imagine S&W telling you that you have to wait an extra week because the no one can drive to the neighboring state to pick up a small part for the machine needed to fix your gun.


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Traveling in NJ means just that. Passing through. NO STOPPING, no overnight, no bathroom, no food. So if you stop to visit friends or take a leak you're now braking the law. Plenty of people have been arrested for it.
No you're not. FOPA requires a direct route, but a direct route does allow for stopping for gas bathroom breaks and meals along that direct route - or just off it, such as exiting the interstate to eat at a restaurant just off the interstate. Now in a dinky little state like NJ, you normally would not stop over night, but given that you might have to drive from VA to VT or ME, with no real friendly firearms state sin between, you may have to stop somewhere, especially with NE corridor traffic being what it usually is. That's also allowed under the pass through provisions of the FOPA.

I agree, if you decide to go visit a relative, tour a museum, etc, that would not meet the requirement so the pass through provisions of FOPA.

I do however agree with you that an over zealous and under educated officer may not be aware of FOPA's pass through provision, but one would hope an officer would still have probable cause to make a stop in NJ. Even if a stop occurs, a firearm is found, and FOPA is ignored, you'll get hauled downtown but a call to your lawyer will get it sorted out pretty quickly unless you did something stupid - and actually illegal - like resist arrest.

NJ law can be what ever NJ wants it to be and can inflict it on their own residents, but federal law is in fact preeminent.

Just be prudent, follow the letter of the pass through provisions to a tee, and take care not to do anything that would be probable cause for a stop, and if stopped don't do anything that would become probable cause for a vehicle search.

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No you're not. FOPA requires a direct route, but a direct route does allow for stopping for gas bathroom breaks and meals along that direct route - or just off it, such as exiting the interstate to eat at a restaurant just off the interstate. Now in a dinky little state like NJ, you normally would not stop over night, but given that you might have to drive from VA to VT or ME, with no real friendly firearms state sin between, you may have to stop somewhere, especially with NE corridor traffic being what it usually is. That's also allowed under the pass through provisions of the FOPA.

I agree, if you decide to go visit a relative, tour a museum, etc, that would not meet the requirement so the pass through provisions of FOPA.

I do however agree with you that an over zealous and under educated officer may not be aware of FOPA's pass through provision, but one would hope an officer would still have probable cause to make a stop in NJ. Even if a stop occurs, a firearm is found, and FOPA is ignored, you'll get hauled downtown but a call to your lawyer will get it sorted out pretty quickly unless you did something stupid - and actually illegal - like resist arrest.

NJ law can be what ever NJ wants it to be and can inflict it on their own residents, but federal law is in fact preeminent.

Just be prudent, follow the letter of the pass through provisions to a tee, and take care not to do anything that would be probable cause for a stop, and if stopped don't do anything that would become probable cause for a vehicle search.
You're probably right and I'm not arguing with you but I've heard plenty of NJ residents say DON'T STOP. A lot of them don't even stop between the range and home.

FOPA doesn't mean anything. They'll still arrest. In court you can use the FOPA
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NJ is very sketchy. Having been in Law Enforcement in NJ I can say not all cops are out for blood. However, you don't know the mind set of the LEO you may encounter just like he or she doesn't know your mind set. Remember, do not give consent to search and don't volunteer any information.
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I live in Pa. but when I travel to Florida, I'm legal thru every
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Unless you stole money from a drug cartel or cheated the mafia and have a bulls-eye on your back, your best solution would be to just leave your firearm at home and not worry about it. I really don't think you'd be in a lot of danger without it.
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You have never been through Camden, Newark or the Oranges then.
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You have never been through Camden, Newark or the Oranges then.
Haha that's the truth, we lived on Newark Ave in Bloomfield until I was 5. It was actually nice then. Then Dad decided to move us to South Jersey. We had family in the Caldwell's so we would travel frequently as I got older. Went through our old spot a lot and where my dad grew up in Newark. Every time I thanked him for moving us out of there...

But probably just as bad as Camden and Newark if not worse is Paterson.

For a state it's size it has a lot of ****** cities. We just named four without even talking about. AC, Trenton, and the always "up and coming" Asbury Park... "But wait there's more!"
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I figure you are taking I-95 -- so don't forget Delaware. Your PA permit is not valid there either. Hate to admit it but I was born in New Jersey but avoid the state (or People's Rebulik) at all costs
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Used to do repos in Trenton. Been to Camden many times for bankruptcy court hearings. Been in Newark, Elizabeth, Bayonne, Jersey City. Of course I didn't go there to hang out on corners but if you don't stand out and go about your business no one bothers you

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Most of this paranoia is unfounded. FOPA does protect you from travelling from one good state to another. I don't understand where all of these fears come from that seem to indicate that both MD and NJ will have a major roadblock just to stop and dismantle your car looking for a spent .22 casing so you can spend life in Rahway prison. Don't throw your empty beer bottles out the window at the cop sitting by the side of the road or decide that that is the time to wind out your new BMW to see how fast it can go. Drive normal, obey the laws, enjoy your vacation. And do yourself a favor - don't drive in the stupid Interstate - the scenery is so much prettier (and the cops fewer) on all those lovely back country highways and byways.

Virginia Man Arrested for Possession of Concealed Weapon in Owings | Southern Maryland News Net | Southern Maryland News Net

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Unless you stole money from a drug cartel or cheated the mafia and have a bulls-eye on your back, your best solution would be to just leave your firearm at home and not worry about it. I really don't think you'd be in a lot of danger without it.
Are you kidding me? I was in MD. sometime back and them ghetto birds tried to steal my KFC chickens.
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Those two stories don't surprise me a bit. Got out of MD 3 years ago and so glad we did. Prior to that i was attending some rallyes and hearings before they enacted their terrible gun bill maybe 5-6 yrs ago. An old guy testified he had moved to Md 15 yrs prior to help a sick relative who died 10 yrs later. He had been busy so hadn't shot any of the guns he brought w/ him all those 10 yrs. W/ time on his hands he starts shooting again and so is buying ammo at various stores. A year later he opens the front door to a knock at 730PM by the leader of a SWAT team. He is asked why he is buying ammo when there are no guns registered to his name in Md. See, Md has always been a bunch of sneaky b-----ds. To buy ammo one always had to show one's driver's license which I assumed was to verify you were over 21 yrs old. But they have someone in a room somewhere crossing ammo purchases w/ gun registrations. Unbelievable but true.
BTW, the old guy had been going to make his last drive from Md to Texas the previous Friday but delayed his trip until that Tuesday so he could testify. He got out too and I bet is having a blast in Tx.
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Unless you stole money from a drug cartel or cheated the mafia and have a bulls-eye on your back, your best solution would be to just leave your firearm at home and not worry about it. I really don't think you'd be in a lot of danger without it.
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Thank you all for your input. I made it back from NJ safely but I missed having my Shield in my pocket holster. Future trips will be to PA through WV with my Shield and will avoid NJ.
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Does anyone else see the irony here? The very swamps where you might need a gun are the very places you have trouble possessing one.
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Does anyone else see the irony here? The very swamps where you might need a gun are the very places you have trouble possessing one.
He said NJ not a specific city. Plenty of great cities in NJ. He could have been in Alpine NJ ranked as America's most expensive ZIP code with a median home price of $4.25 million and the median family income was $192,188. Home to wall street types, sports players and actors. It's Beverly Hills with snow

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He said NJ not a specific city. Plenty of great cities in NJ. He could have been in Alpine NJ ranked as America's most expensive ZIP code with a median home price of $4.25 million and the median family income was $192,188. Home to wall street types, sports players and actors. It's Beverly Hills with snow

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Yes but it's still NJ and still NJ zip code. It's like saying if you live in NE Philly it may as well be Cherry Hill or Pensauken NJ. While close to each other one is still in PA

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In other words stay out of those foreign states. They have no respect for Constitutional law of the land.

I refuse to fly any more because I refuse to be treated like a terrorist or a criminal. Now I can't even drive across this country without being suspect if I have an NRA sticker on my car. Which I don't for that very reason. What happened to my 2nd rights that our soldiers fight and have fought to preserve for me?
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Yes but it's still NJ and still NJ zip code. It's like saying if you live in NE Philly it may as well be Cherry Hill or Pensauken NJ. While close to each other one is still in PA

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I'm just saying while they reside there NYC gets all the credit like the Giants lol and most of those people consider themselves New Yorkers. Like you mentioned people from Philly that work in Philly but live in Cherry Hill. NJ just has so much inlfuence from its surrounding cities. All that overflow is why I left, it increases costs and taxes for people who live AND work in NJ and make NJ wages not NYC wages. Yeah the state may be seeing the benefits of NYC overflow but the average everyday blue collar people don't. And where are all the good school systems? Where the rich people live who make NYC wages working in NYC.

Not to mention all the bs city like mentality gun laws and restrictions... NJ is the way it is simply bc of where it's located. It does whatever it's big brother wants it to do.
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This **** sucks. We moved out of Md 3 yrs ago to N Va. Been carrying since but I go to a lot of auto events in Md. I had been keeping a self defense device in a case behind the passenger seat of my roadster. This past weekend, I left it at home. I don't like that feeling at all.
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I've been watching a lot of Live PD. Great show on Fridays and Saturdays 9-12. Anyway, apparently, when stopped by the cops all you have to say is "ain't doing nuffin" and "snot mine, I'm just holdin' for a friend, (who's name is always unpronounceable as they can never remember). Like a get out of Jail free card.
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I have to say I'm astounded that after two pages of individual opinions on what the laws are that no one told the OP to take a look at the website handgunlaw.us. This website is researched and maintained with great effort by a member of our forum, Gary Slider. I regard it as the bible when you are talking about state handgun laws and travel through them.
It is great to have personal opinion & stories but why not also read the real deal?

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I have to say I'm astounded that after two pages of individual opinions on what the laws are that no one told the OP to take a look at the website handgunlaw.us. This website is researched and maintained with great effort by a member of our forum, Gary Slider. I regard it as the bible when you are talking about state handgun laws and travel through them.
It is great to have personal opinion & stories but why not also read the real deal?
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I live in North Carolina. I have decided I don't need to visit Maine or New Hampshire. I wonder if states in the northeast know or even care that many people will not venture into their area because of the hostile gun environment. Quite often I travel by motor home for months at a time. I'm not going to put myself at risk for prosecution by traveling into or through those states.

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After reading thread I've decided I'm never going to NJ or Maryland. I suggest no one spend their money in these states and others like them Vote with your wallet and let it be known. When the thugs and criminals take over and all the tourists, and even tax paying residents leave, maybe they'll get the idea. But I doubt that, as those stats seem to value their criminals more then their law abiding citizens who foot the bill for their stupid policies. You all come to Texas. You won't have those problems here
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Some good advice in this thread. I live near MD and DC, and that proximity is why I never leave a gun in my truck/car -- what if I forget and wander over there? The crime rates there are much higher, anyway.

I have an example of egregious gun laws that top anything in this thread, although the story may be apocrophal. In DC, empty shells are considered ammunition, and you cannot have ammunition unless you have a gun permit for a gun in the same caliber. Gun permits are virtually impossible to obtain unless you are a politician. Warning: D.C. cops under orders to arrest tourists with empty bullet casings

So here's the egregious case: a man had a cigarette lighter made out of an old rifle casing. His wife, during the course of their divorce, found out about the DC law and called the police to his house -- and he was arrested for having illegal ammunition because he did not have a gun permit.

True story? I don't know. It could be.
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Maybe from local officials who openly state they will not comply with FOPA?

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If your bored and have lotsa free time, go thru your vehicle 3x's and remove ANYTHING gun related, get your fav AR hard case, the one with all the gun stickers. Put a 9 iron and putter in the case then secure it to your roof rack or have it visible inside if you don't have a rack. Now go take ride around in NJ.
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No surprise Arik. Wonder if it pertains to rifle and shotguns too. Hope residents enjoy shooting pellet guns!
If you can't get a Firearms Identification Card in NJ, you can't purchase or possess any conventional long arm, pellet gun, BB gun, or blackpowder rifle or shotgun. It is my understanding that you must show a Firearms ID card in order to purchase any ammunition that COULD be fired in a handgun, not certain how that is applied to shotgun shells. You even need a purchase permit in order to purchase a blackpowder handgun or pellet/BB pistol.
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And don't even think about pumping gas into your own car in New Jersey.
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