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Old 09-20-2017, 02:09 PM
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I noticed also, why is the 4.25" & the 5" $100 cheaper then the compact?
It's just the usual cashing (literally) in on being able to ask a higher price for a desirable new model. The retail price of the Compact is actually $30 cheaper than the 5" and 4.25" guns.
At some point in the future the Compact will become much cheaper. Or at least somewhat cheaper.
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:25 PM
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This caught my attention,as I was G19 centric for quite a few years. But,I havn't seen anything official from S&W yet. I am currently carrying a 45 Shield as my daily CCW while the wife carries the Shield 9.
I am always having to confront poachers, mostly during the nighttime hours on this 1000 acre farm. (Not mine,I just protect the equipment.)
Having shot a full size M2.0 and falling in love with it I will probably be going for that, since I have several other pistols mostly for CCW. I usually have two and sometimes three of these miscreants to deal with,so round count becomes important. Nice looking pistol and the right size for most folks, but think the FS would serve me better in the role it's needed for.
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:39 PM
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I just got an alert the two I pre-ordered from SOS were shipped today.
Not much of a pre-order. Looks like that was an express order. I would really like to hear a review of what you think when you have time to take them to the range.
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:58 PM
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$485 at Gallery of Guns. I almost clicked to buy it but kinda don’t want to be a beta tester.
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I definitely won't complain about how short the pre-order was. I've been waiting/hoping S&W would release this gun for years, ever since I bought my first 9c.

I have 4 M&P's already, early versions of the 9FS and 9c and recent versions of the 9FS and 9c (not M2.0). The earlier versions both have Apex triggers but I felt the newer triggers are so much better they don't need the Apex upgrades.

I love my M&P's but I decided I wasn't going to spend any more money on S&W until they released a Glock 19 sized version. For me the 9c is too small for a primary carry gun and, while I don't mind carrying the 9FS, I really wanted something in the Glock 19 "sweet spot" w/o having to buy one. Nothing against Glock, they're great guns, I just have different tastes.

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Not much of a pre-order. Looks like that was an express order. I would really like to hear a review of what you think when you have time to take them to the range.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:11 PM
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I'll post a review as soon as I get them to the range. I'm also curious to see if they'll qualify for the current rebates.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:17 PM
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I'll post a review as soon as I get them to the range. I'm also curious to see if they'll qualify for the current rebates.
The S&W web site states qualifying MP purchase. I asked Customer service this very question regarding the 2.0 Compact and was told no it would not as the release date was after the rebate period.

I spoke to the LE rep who told me yes it does. I guess we won't know till somebody submits for it.

Mine should be in on Friday so hopefully can post results soon after.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:54 PM
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So, the new 2.0 Compact is less compact than the old compact?? Seems allot closer to the old full sized model.
I think I'm seeing the kings backside here...
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:57 PM
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So, the new 2.0 Compact is less compact than the old compact?? Seems allot closer to the old full sized model.
I think I'm seeing the kings backside here...
No. It's a glock 19 sized pistol. About a half inch shorter height and a quarter inch shorter barrel than the 2.0 full size.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:18 PM
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$485 at Gallery of Guns. I almost clicked to buy it but kinda donít want to be a beta tester.
But when you buy with them they give you a whole new gun if you have issues instead of sending it to Smith

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Old 09-20-2017, 05:19 PM
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So, the new 2.0 Compact is less compact than the old compact?? Seems allot closer to the old full sized model.
I think I'm seeing the kings backside here...

The old "compact" was never a compact, it was a mislabeled subcompact. The M2.0 Compact is the gun they should have made way back in 2005.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:41 PM
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I just printed out a full-scale picture of the 9c 2.0 and compared it to my 9fs 1.0. Looks like the slide is identical. Just realized the c 2.0 has no beavertail.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:49 PM
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sadly none of the 2.0 has beaver tail, must confess had no interest of getting the 2.0 but I really like the new compact.

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Old 09-21-2017, 03:56 PM
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I don't need a beaver tail

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Just ordered mine from grabagun, 478 out the door.I know its not a super difference from my full size 2.0. but I love the G19 size but hate the grip.

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Old 09-22-2017, 11:08 AM
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The old "compact" was never a compact, it was a mislabeled subcompact. The M2.0 Compact is the gun they should have made way back in 2005.
The 9c is my EDC. Grip size with the flat baseplate mag is almost identical to the G26, yet holds two more rounds. The slide is just a tad bit longer than the G26. I would agree the old compact is really a sub compact. That said I love mine. I have a G19 but my 9c is what I grab everyday. It is an almost perfect balance of size and capacity. I even think the trigger is pretty decent, just needs a more tactile reset. Will probably put an Apex kit in soon. Carry it comfortably all day in a Clinger no print wonder.

I do plan on buying the new compact though.
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sadly none of the 2.0 has beaver tail, must confess had no interest of getting the 2.0 but I really like the new compact.

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Old 09-22-2017, 12:24 PM
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The 9c is my EDC. Grip size with the flat baseplate mag is almost identical to the G26, yet holds two more rounds. The slide is just a tad bit longer than the G26. I would agree the old compact is really a sub compact. That said I love mine. I have a G19 but my 9c is what I grab everyday. It is an almost perfect balance of size and capacity. I even think the trigger is pretty decent, just needs a more tactile reset. Will probably put an Apex kit in soon. Carry it comfortably all day in a Clinger no print wonder.

I do plan on buying the new compact though.
I have a couple 9C's and like them as well, but even with the extension the grip is shoot short for my hand. I prefer having a full grip. I won't be getting rid of my 9C's but have already pre-ordered an LEO edition of the M2.0 Compact.
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Handled one today. Felt GREAT in hand, perfect size and balance but I'm not paying $499. Ill wait
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Handled one today. Felt GREAT in hand, perfect size and balance but I'm not paying $499. Ill wait
Don't, order from Sportsman Outdoor Superstore I believe they are 439 with free shipping.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:51 PM
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Mine came in today but too late to shoot it. I will over the weekend. Initial impressions are that I am going to like this. Comparing it to my current carry 3913, it is just a little longer, almost the same height, and just a little bit thicker in the grip, but almost the same width in the slide with the safety levers on the 3913. Trigger pull is much better than either my first MP40, or the updated Pre-2.0 we are carrying now. It even fits in my 3913 holster although it is a bit tight.
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I just printed out a full-scale picture of the 9c 2.0 and compared it to my 9fs 1.0. Looks like the slide is identical. Just realized the c 2.0 has no beavertail.
I have a gen 1 9c and it doesn't have a beaver tail either.
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The old "compact" was never a compact, it was a mislabeled subcompact. The M2.0 Compact is the gun they should have made way back in 2005.
That may be, but it's still kind of stupid of them to abandon those of us that find the original compact's to be the perfect size gun. Personally, I consider the Shield's to be sub-combact, and the 1.0 C to be a compact, but I'm talking real world use, not some standard set by ITPA (or whomever).

The 2.0 C is so close to a 2.0 FS (only .1" shorter), that anyone not shooting in competitions in the compact class might as well just get the FS, it would seem like.
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Between classes this weekend I spent some time with the new Compact. I shot just over 200 rounds of cheap Winchester white box. My initial impression were confirmed. Not a single bobble, and unlike my co-workers full size 2.0, I had no ejection issues at all. Spent cases ejected as they should. I am finding that the Compact is noticeably more accurate than my 40 full size in slow fire work. I was getting better groups at a full 25 yards than I can get at 15 with the 40. Rapid fire is much easier to shoot quickly.

As to the size difference, yes it is not that much smaller than a full size, and is not that much bigger than a 3913. It is a size that just feels right in the hand though. I have passed it around at work and even the die hard Glock guy likes how it feels.

So far I am impressed, and did I mention that I don't really like striker fired plastic pistols?
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That may be, but it's still kind of stupid of them to abandon those of us that find the original compact's to be the perfect size gun. Personally, I consider the Shield's to be sub-combact, and the 1.0 C to be a compact, but I'm talking real world use, not some standard set by ITPA (or whomever).

The 2.0 C is so close to a 2.0 FS (only .1" shorter), that anyone not shooting in competitions in the compact class might as well just get the FS, it would seem like.
The 2.0C is also a half inch shorter in height while only sacrificing two rounds. To people like me, that half inch makes a huge difference. It carries better, points better, balances better and shoots faster than the full size. Which is why my 45 2.0 stays in the night stand.
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Literally just bought my M&P full size and got my Bravo Concealment OWB holster, good timing S&W M&P 2.0 Compact Announcement


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Any idea as to when the thumb safety version will be out?
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My brother works for S&W, and he said this is going to be the compact for the 2.0, no 3.5", 12 round in the works.
They've already got the 12rd and 10rd 40 cal mags for the 1.0 Compacts in their stocking system, it wouldn't cost much to make a 4 inch 2.0 model with a 9c/40c length grip. Manufacturing another set of frame molds is expensive, but they'd only have to do it once and they'd placate most of the "c" crowd because short barrel length isn't as important as short butt length for most CCW carry methods.

S&W already has a gajillion SKUs, so any Smith Corp lurkers feel free to steal my idea ... please.
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I posted earlier as TejasCruzer because I couldn't locate my original login info. I finally picked up my two M&P 2.0 Compacts this morning. They came in on Friday but I couldn't make it over to the gun shop until today.

More details to come once I get to the range this weekend, but right out of the box they are pretty sweet. The trigger take up is pretty gritty but that's no surprise and should get smoother with use. Compared to my full size M&P 1.0's the trigger break feels lighter but the reset is about the same as the more recent M&P 1.0's. All in all I don't think they need an Apex upgrade, YMMV.

Size wise the closest thing I have in comparison is a Walther PPQ M1. I didn't take exact measurements but to my eye the M&P 2.0 Compact is about 1/16"-1/8" shorter in length and about 1/2" shorter in height. Width? I don't care so didn't bother to check. Weight? Again, I don't care and didn't check.

Ergonomics wise the 2.0 feels almost as good as the PPQ and is a huge improvement over the 1.0 M&P (though I have zero complaints about the 1.0). However, the grip texture may be a little too abrasive for my delicate hands, time will tell after I carry it for a while. I can see I'll be going through undershirts left and right but I guess that's better than skin.

For anyone who's interested, I was unable to submit the M&P Rebate online. An error pops up stating they were unable to locate the serial numbers in their database but that I could try mailing the rebate in. The small print on the mail-in rebate form lists every M&P semi-auto model except the 2.0 Compact so it may not qualify after all. I'll mail them in and see what happens.
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For the M&P 1.0 Compact fans out there, I have two and I love them but will probably be selling them. The 2.0 Compact is everything the 1.0 Compact should have been and more. Imagine your 1.0 Compact with that useless pinky mag extension completely filled in and holding 3 extra rounds.
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:56 PM
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And too long and tall to carry, at least the way I carry. No thanks.

Hope you enjoy yours, though.
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Hmmm. Interesting. Recently bought a Gen 4 model 23. Very nice pistola.
Same...hoping the 1/4" of length in the grip makes a difference. This would be a Glock-killer for me.

The only decision is 9 or 40.
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