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Old 09-12-2017, 10:49 PM
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A few years back I picked up a BNIB first generation M&P in 357 Sig, small sear plunger, no stupid white letters on the slide. Since it's a range toy, I put an Apex trigger (the $40 one) in it out of curiosity, and then changed the small plunger sear block to the newer, larger one, per Apex' recommendation.

The other evening, my brother and I were talking guns, and got out my M&Ps, the above 357 and my first gen, bendy trigger, small plunger, never failed me HD gun in 9mm. We were doing some dry firing, and noticed that although the Apex trigger has a lighter release, it also has a very mushy release, right at the end, almost like something is bending or deflecting. The stock 9mm has a heavier, but very crisp break, for tupperware at least.

Is this normal for Apex triggers? Did I maybe do something wrong during the install? Gun is 100% functional, never had a hiccup since day 1. Neither has the 9mm for that matter.

While I'm on the subject, opinions on that Apex tactical reset doodad? I noticed that both M&Ps have basically no indication of reset, it's completely smooth and silent.

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I think the no discernible reset triggers were changed due to customer suggestions and experience with the reset in the Shield trigger in 2013.
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I'd say both of mine are from around 05 or 06. I remember getting my 9mm for $399 as the XD or some other competing pistol was being released, and S&W wanted to get the M&P to market in a hurry. Had plenty of problems with it too, seems that QC wasn't so good while they were hurrying them out like that.
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regarding the apex action enhancement trigger, depends on the gun and which sear is in it and how well the trigger bar is adjusted. it sounds like you have the old sear and all the old components that have since been updated.

I would really recommend you get the apex sear and look into how to adjust the trigger bar loop. basically if you adjust the trigger bar loop to a more closed position it will decrease the trigger over travel and this will make your trigger press feel less and less mushy in the back end.

Also, in regards to reset... you need to get the new trigger bar version known as the "S" trigger bar and get the new version of the slide stop lever. these two peices will make your reset much more prominent. you should be able to get them direct from smith...they may even just give them to you.

I don't have any experience with the apex RAM but I do know you have to have the proper sear block for it to work with. you have to have the block with the spot for the trigger lock in it.
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I'll give S&W a holler at some point and see if they'll supply those parts. They've been a little weird lately though...
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