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M&P 2.0 Grip Texture
Got to handle my first 2.0 today and wondered what the thoughts are on the grip texture? It seems really rough but I was told you don't notice it as much after you shoot a couple hundred rounds. Pros and cons please.
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I don't like it, IMO it is too rough if I had one def would sand it down a bit.
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I say if the handle is to rough for you move on to something else .
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I had intentions of adding a 2.0 to the collection until handling one. Not a fan at all. And i am not one to want to plan on mods to a new gun to make it acceptable. So I passed.
There are those who like it I'm just not in that group.
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I think it is a tad rough, spent 20-30 seconds sanding and it's perfect. Not sure I have every owned a handgun that did not need a tweak or two.
You can always put Talon or Traction grips on it if it is too rough. Or you can stop getting manicures and lotioning up 3x a day.
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I don't like it, IMO it is too rough if I had one def would sand it down a bit.
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It does feel rough when you hold it but shoot it and you'll be pleasantly surprised. The rough texture prevents the pistol from moving in your hand and you won't feel a thing. I put 300 rounds through mine earlier today and my hand wasn't hurting at all.
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For a range only gun it's a little too rough for me. But if it was going to be used as a duty gun that had to be accessed and fired with possibly wet, slick hands I'd say it is about right. I'm not doing anything to mine.
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I like mine. Some guns try to slip in my hand as I shoot, but this M2.0 doesn't. It is comfortable to shoot.
Even a long session at the range is not too much with it.
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It was one of the upgrades that appealed to me. I haven't had any issues with the grip being too rough.
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I don't have a 2.0 but I do have a 45 Shield that I carried for the first time today. Holy cow, sand paper city on my side. I don't notice it in my hand but my love handles don't like it much, especially getting in the car. I'm going to sand it down a bit.
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Very good, but if you're going to carry it sand down the side against your body like I did. I think the should make a smoother grip option to change out if you want something smoother
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I like it however i would not want to have the grip rubbing my stomach if carried in a IWB Tuck-able holster
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Why? There's rubberized Talon Grips and other brands that will reduce the rough texture. I didn't buy one because there's nothing wrong with my 1.0 so that could be another option and they're cheaper.
I don't see it getting better after 200 rounds if anything your hands will probably hurt even more.
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I'm with the crowd that believes a new gun shouldn't need to be modified just to make it shoot comfortably.
I'm also one who thinks the 2.0 finish is too rough.
I shoot a lot. Not as much as a top level USPSA shooter, but far more than the average gun owner in the US. Until you've fired 600-1,000 rounds in only a couple of days, you don't really know whether it's comfortable or not. Of course if you're one who never shoots more than 50 at a time, then that's the number that's important to you. I shoot more than that.
The grip doesn't need to be rough to provide good grip. Look at this grip:
This pattern, in my opinion, is the best on the market today. It's completely flat. However, if you use the proper grip with the proper tension, it provides excellent retention, without hurting. Because it's flat on the surface, it doesn't rub your skin raw while carrying it under a t-shirt. I've used it in hot, cold, rain and wind. The G-10 material is almost indestructible.
By contrast the M&P 2.0 grip is like holding a rasp.
OK, maybe not that rough, but certainly 60 grit sand paper rough. Of course that will provide a solid grip. It's just not optimal for carry or long periods of use.
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I'm with the crowd that believes a new gun shouldn't need to be modified just to make it shoot comfortably.
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Really? Who are these people? Not Glock owners who switch out 90% of everything on them including having the trigger guard undercut or frame stippled or have the finger grooves removed but they're not the only ones that do this.
It's no different than people adding triggers to the S&W pistols to help it shoot more comfortably and accurately. Talon grips can be removed just like people who put Hogue grips on the grip or bicycle inner tube on the grip so there's nothing wrong with wanting it more comfortable.
In your photo, was that the original grip panels or did you install new ones?
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Really? Who are these people?
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There are many. Regardless of what people do, I still believe the gun shouldn't need modification to make it comfortable to shoot. Neither should people need to change out the trigger. However, in the case of the trigger, even though it's a mediocre trigger, it doesn't cause pain.
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I've made plenty of modifications to guns. But they were all a choice, not a necessity. Yes, I did change the grip panels. These are the original:
The gun is perfectly comfortable to shoot with the original grips. The standard diamond pattern you see on 1911s offers good grip without abrading your hand. The G-10 material of the VZ EDC Frag grips that I changed to is more durable. I only offered that picture as an example of how a grip doesn't need to be sand paper to provide a good gripping surface.
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Really? Who are these people? Not Glock owners who switch out 90% of everything on them including having the trigger guard undercut or frame stippled or have the finger grooves removed but they're not the only ones that do this.
It's no different than people adding triggers to the S&W pistols to help it shoot more comfortably and accurately. Talon grips can be removed just like people who put Hogue grips on the grip or bicycle inner tube on the grip so there's nothing wrong with wanting it more comfortable.
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I'm one of those people, and Glock owner as well. Not counting sights I don't like to change out anything. Just not my thing. There's no gun ever made that I'd want so bad I'd be willing to start swapping parts. Not one! I use the 1911 as example a lot. If I see one that's from a great company with an amazing price but it doesn't have a ambi safety i won't buy it. Don't need it THAT bad. Eventually I'll find another similar company and price but with an ambi safety! Even the simple 1911 grips. If I want to change them I'll have to start looking around, then buy and wait ....lost all interest right there!
I don't believe in buying something that doesn't work for me and then paying money to make it work. If it doesn't work for me it's not for me. I wouldn't buy a new car and start changing paint, swapping engines, and adding leather seats or other things. I'll just buy the one that already has it
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Perfect for a "weapon" that may need to be handled wet or bloody. I love it.
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It’s to each their own in the end. I put rubberized talon grips on all my pistols. I don’t own any 1911’s so no problem there. $17.95 isn’t a pricey upgrade for comfort and not noticeable to anyone but me.
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Sorry for the necro thread, but I was looking for topics specific to the 2.0 grip texture. I own 1.0 MP40s. Tonight, I held my first 2.0, a 9mm FDE 5” at Academy. “...like holding a rasp” is exactly what it felt like. Really liked the balance of it, but when I hunkered down with a two handed grip I almost winced. I’m no lumberjack so if I get it, I’ll definitely be knocking down the texture with some sandpaper.
Anyone else have observations on the 2.0 texturing, vs the 1.0?
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Rubberized Talon grips are the way to go. No sanding needed. Have them on all my handguns.
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I just bought the Compact 2.0. I agree the texture is rough and I didn’t like it at first, but I’m starting not to notice it. I haven’t even shot it yet but I handle it every day. It doesn’t bother me anymore. If I ever do carry it, it will be in an OWB holster in the cooler months.
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I have a 1.0 9mm sbield and just shot my 2.0 9c in 3.6” barrel.
I was concerned over the 2.0 grip texture being “too much”. But after running about 150 rounds through it and also moxing in several mags with my shield. I didn’t even really notice the 2.0 texture. If anything I might have preferred it as the gun simply does not move in the hand making it feel extremely secure. I may now even consider getting talon stick on grips to add on my shield for more security.
I am now more comcerned with how the 2.0 texture will be against a Tshirt or skin while carrying.
If I sand anything, I will start out only with the back strap on the side that would rub against the body.
I have even though about trying out a 1.0 backstrap. And leaving the 2.0 texture on the remainder of the grip alone.
Does anyone know what 1.0 backstrap will fit the new 9c?
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Too rough while handling is no big deal.
I WANT rough when shooting.
I want the gun in exactly the same spot in my hands after the shot as before the shot.......that's when it counts.
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I shoot the 5 inch FDE and the 5 inch Pro in Action Pistol. I installed Apex barrels, sears, and springs in both. They shoot about the same, but the advantage to the rough grip of the FDE comes with humid weather or sweaty hands.
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Compared to the first gen used bubblegum texture the 2.0 in my opinion is 100% improved.
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Rubberized Talon grips are the way to go. No sanding needed. Have them on all my handguns.
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I agree. I Talon or Tractiongrip all my handguns, which to me is superior to a sandpaper like finish. To each his own.
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I bought a 2.0 9mm a few months ago to replace my Glock 19 as my duty gun at my PD job. I'm up to abut 1000 rds through it and just qualified with it Friday.
IMO, the texture on the 2.0 is GREAT! It REALLY anchors the gun in your hand when shooting, whether your hand is wet or sweaty (I'd also assume bloody, thankfully have never been there!) and it just doesn't move at all. I LOVE it!
Having said that, I think I'm going to have to sand mine a little. I'm the rangemaster and another instructor and I had a newbie just out of the academy out to qualify, also. While walking around at the range instructing him, I noticed that, when my right inner forearm brushed against the butt of the M&P, it was irritating the skin a little. I usually carry my 9mm Shield off duty, but also sometimes carry my regular duty gun IWB off duty when the weather gets cold and I wear heavy enough clothing to conceal it. I have a feeling that the aggressive texture on the M&P will absolutely shred my love handle, so a little judicious sanding will be in the gun's future. I hate to do it, but you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm also afraid that the texture will shred polyester uniforms. I'm starting back Monday after my weekend, I'll give it a day or two on duty before taking the sandpaper to it.
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I'm very happy with the grip. As soon as I picked it up the first time at the gun store, it felt nice. It holds its place in my hands when firing it at the range.
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Rubber Talon Grips on everything.
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If I'm shooting hundreds of rounds at the range, I prefer my 1.0 grip over my 2.0 grip. The 1.0 texture is perfection in my opinion, the 2.0 is overkill. But they nailed the trigger on the 2.0 for sure.
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I have the 1.0 shield and 2.0 full size. I prefer the grip of the 2.0. It is aggressive, but it's not uncomfortable for me after a couple hundred rounds on the range. I can't say I'd want to carry it against my skin, but for shooting it is superior to my 1.0. A little bit of sweat renders my 1.0 slippery by comparison. My buddy carries the 1.0 as his duty weapon and is amazed and in love with the superior trigger and feel of my 2.0.
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I just bought a full size last week and shot it for the first time on Saturday. I love it. I hate slippery grips. If you have soft hands I guess it could be a problem but I don't have that problem.
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The factory texture is something that can easily be worked with, with a little care. I used a sanding sheet for spackling to slightly tone down the texture on my 45 Shield.
On my M2.0 3.6" compact I took a slightly different approach. I used a wood burning needle that is used for stipple texturing, set it on medium heat,and once was hot, I turned the tip sideways and pulled it lightly over the texturing. It melted down the sharp tips and blended them in with the texture. This made the grip less sharp to the hand but still provided an aggressive and slip free grip.
It's not even noticeable to the eye but more comfortable in the hand. I don't believe in heavy modifications either, but this is a simple task that anyone can do with a little care.Nothing is a one size fits all as it comes from the box
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The M&P Compact 2.0 is the only gun I've recently purchased that I did't feel the need to put Talon grips on. The texture was a bit "sharp" at first, but some very light sanding made it comfortable. Very light sanding.
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How well will Talon grips on the rough surface of the 2.0 Compact?
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It does feel rough when you hold it but shoot it and you'll be pleasantly surprised. The rough texture prevents the pistol from moving in your hand and you won't feel a thing. I put 300 rounds through mine earlier today and my hand wasn't hurting at all.
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I've found this ^ to be true for me too. When shooting my 2.0 Compact I don't even notice the rough texture.
One of the indoor ranges I go to has a swamp cooler for air conditioning. As I was shooting the 2.0 I noticed my hands were slightly moist, but I had no problem holding on to the pistol; it wasn't slipping around in my grip. I'll bet holding on to my FS M&P 9 or 40 (1.0 versions) would be a different story.
At the other end of the spectrum, a couple of weeks ago I was at an IDPA match up in the mountains, (low humidity, very dry,) I never noticed the grip at all.
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Your initial info was correct. It feels rough at first, but it’s just different. After you shoot it awhile it seems perfectly natural, and provides a very good grip.
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2.0 Grip Texture
I have been to the range several times with my MP 2.0/3.6. The grip texture, at first, was perceived as a bit too rough. But, after 4 range outings, and very light sanding (on the left side/next to waist when carried), I am quite pleased with the grip texture. I do not need to add anything.
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I like the new grip texture, immensely. Just a minor point of note, Talon grip or Tractiongrip or sanding are significantly less expensive than stippling, self-stipplers notwithstanding. They will never make a handgun that will satisfy the needs or desires of all shooters.
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I gave mine a light sanding because I CC and it was starting to tear up clothing, especially synthetics. I love the texture for shooting. Overall this is my favorite gun to shoot and very accurate for me.
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I am a lady with soft delicate hands. I love my Shield 2.0 9mm! The grip is just right for me, I have a Kimber Micro and it slips in my hands when they sweat in the Texas heat, my Shield does not slip. If I carried it in my waistband as guys do, I would wear a t-shirt.
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