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Old 09-20-2017, 09:06 AM
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I just purchased a Performance Center M&P9L. I really like the gun so far except the trigger, there's so much pre travel in the trigger. The trigger is smooth but I don't like that pre travel. I have read about the Apex FSS, does this trigger replacement make that much of difference?

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Welcome to the forum! When you refer to the pre-travel, are you talking about the normal travel that most safe-action, striker-fired pistols have, or ar you talking about the M&P as compared to similar pistols, like a Glock?
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I just purchased a Performance Center M&P9L. I really like the gun so far except the trigger, there's so much pre travel in the trigger. The trigger is smooth but I don't like that pre travel. I have read about the Apex FSS, does this trigger replacement make that much of difference?



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Yes the FSS will get rid of the excessive pre and over travel. It is an amazing improvement I have it on my full size 9 with the aluminum flat face trigger.


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I have read about the Apex FSS, does this trigger replacement make that much of difference?

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Without knowing whether your use of this gun is for target shooting, competition or self defense, it's difficult to recommend a certain type of aftermarket trigger improvement kit. Generally, the Apex FSS reduces take up; reduces over travel; reduces reset distance and can smooth and even lighten trigger pull.

Some will say, correctly, that a little polishing, wear, time & effort will improve the factory trigger some and you can just learn to use it as is. Yet a better trigger makes a good gun better.
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I am using it for competition shooting, and yes compared to my Glocks it seems to have more pre travel.
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The 2.0 trigger is way better, which is why I got one yesterday.
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I am using it for competition shooting, and yes compared to my Glocks it seems to have more pre travel.
The APEX FSS kit will cure ALL pre-travel issues, but the FSS kit for the M2.0 isn't released yet by APEX.
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The APEX FSS kit will cure ALL pre-travel issues, but the FSS kit for the M2.0 isn't released yet by APEX.


umm I think it is already out




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Did you read it? The Apex web store has only duty kits for the M2.0.
"Bringing our Forward Set Trigger system into the M2.0 is not as simple as a few geometry changes on the trigger body or sear. With the addition of the Sear Actuator to the M2.0’s fire control system, we've opted to design and manufacture our own version to aid in the reduction of trigger pre-travel. Since this is a new element to the Forward Set system design, we've chosen to seek patent protection for the Apex Forward Set Sear Actuator and we have been notified by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office that Apex has received Patent Pending status for the new design. Obviously, this has caused some delays in our planned release timeline."
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Another newbie question, What's the difference between the flat faced and curved trigger? Is it just a preference thing or is there other reasons? Also is the aluminum trigger worth the extra money compared to the polymer?
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For the average shooter the polymer trigger works fine. For those who put tens of thousands of rounds through their guns (competition), the metal trigger will last longer.

Most experienced shooters prefer a flatter trigger as it gives them the option of where to place their finger on the trigger. It gives them a better feel. This can help with trigger control and accuracy.

A curved trigger forces the shooter to place the finger in just one way--average for everyone. Curved triggers are especially helpful for hard trigger pulls, like 8+ pounds for a DAO or DA/SA trigger because it helps stabilize the trigger finger, usually inserted farther across the trigger to gain more pulling power. Neither of these considerations should apply to a striker fired or SA gun.

It's always good to try before you buy. You can dry fire different guns with different triggers from your local gun store case. Some people prefer a curved trigger just because most guns have them.

The classic 1911 design has a flat trigger that many shooters love with its straight pull to the rear.
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For the average shooter the polymer trigger works fine. For those who put tens of thousands of rounds through their guns (competition), the metal trigger will last longer.

Most experienced shooters prefer a flatter trigger as it gives them the option of where to place their finger on the trigger. It gives them a better feel. This can help with trigger control and accuracy.

A curved trigger forces the shooter to place the finger in just one way--average for everyone. Curved triggers are especially helpful for hard trigger pulls, like 8+ pounds for a DAO or DA/SA trigger because it helps stabilize the trigger finger, usually inserted farther across the trigger to gain more pulling power. Neither of these considerations should apply to a striker fired or SA gun.

It's always good to try before you buy. You can dry fire different guns with different triggers from your local gun store case. Some people prefer a curved trigger just because most guns have them.

The classic 1911 design has a flat trigger that many shooters love with its straight pull to the rear.

THANKS for the insight.
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I am using it for competition shooting, and yes compared to my Glocks it seems to have more pre travel.
If you care, the externally visible APEX kits like FSS disqualify you for USPSA Production and IDPA/SSP.
The are legal in Limited, Open, and IDPA/ESP
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