|
|
|
11-03-2017, 07:23 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
|
|
Got mine yesterday - had to sign for it.
JG
|
11-04-2017, 10:25 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Shouldn't be much longer
Bought my M&P 9 Shield 8/3. Submitted rebate request online the same day. I received a letter 2 weeks ago from Milano telling me that my submission was invalid because I used a PO box for my shipping address. That was my mistake. The letter said to resubmit the request by mail NOT ONLINE which I did and this week the Milano update site now shows it as a valid request.
|
11-04-2017, 10:34 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 317
Likes: 64
Liked 192 Times in 104 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Smoke
Bought a new 2.0 M&P and mailed in my receipt and info on August 1st and have tried calling Melano many times and kept getting mail box full....Tried again today and finally got a lady to answer....I gave her my name and zip code and the date I mailed it in but she couldn't find any information that they ever received my form....She asked for the gun serial number which I didn't have and I was told to try calling back next week...What a joke!!! I like the pistol but really only bought it because of the great rebate which looks like I will never receive....S&W is a great company and should step up and do something about this mess, really an embarrassment.....
|
Don't call Milano, call S&W.
|
11-04-2017, 04:50 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 70
Likes: 3
Liked 23 Times in 14 Posts
|
|
A signature and validation of age is required because of the ammo.
|
11-05-2017, 11:23 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NC
Posts: 277
Likes: 1,148
Liked 555 Times in 179 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groundhog34
A signature and validation of age is required because of the ammo.
|
I'm not sure how this package is coming signature or not, but if it is signature required, it's not because of the ammo.
|
11-05-2017, 05:51 PM
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Bremerton, WA
Posts: 89
Likes: 6
Liked 34 Times in 23 Posts
|
|
Mag loader
Quote:
Originally Posted by zephyr
About that mag loader, yeah, I will be sticking with my UpLULA. Way simpler with a lot less bulk and moving parts.
|
I really can't see any advantage to using one of these over my UpLULA. I think it would be faster also.
|
11-05-2017, 08:12 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 71
Likes: 23
Liked 78 Times in 32 Posts
|
|
I submitted my rebate by mail and prof of delivery said it was signed for on 9/25. It just showed up on Milano's website on 11/1. I guess I'm in line for Christmas delivery!!!!!!
Sent from my P01M using Tapatalk
|
11-05-2017, 09:55 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
yes!!!!
had to call at least 3 times the past 2 months, however, received the 2 mags, ammo and loader last week, so , it is coming, they just take their time
|
11-06-2017, 08:13 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,217
Likes: 786
Liked 1,371 Times in 655 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groundhog34
A signature and validation of age is required because of the ammo.
|
I get ammo dropped off at my house all the time without signing for it. I do have to click a box "certifiying" I am over 18 when I order it and Milano could have done the same thing. Although I would think my having just bought a handgun would be all the proof of age needed.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
11-07-2017, 06:22 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
|
|
I finally got someone to answer at MPS...Spoke to a nice lady named Hanna who said you can still fax the form directly to her at 856-314-8270 and she will process it....I first set mine in by internet but never showed up on their web site so I mailed a copy which they say was never received so I hope the fax works.....The direct mailing address is MPS 2615 River Road unit 1 Cinnaminson NJ 08077. I hope the 3rd time is the charm
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
11-07-2017, 06:25 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
Happy for you!
|
11-09-2017, 01:26 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
I submitted my claim on line 27 September. Guess I have a long time to wait. I called the number on the rebate certificate and they said that I probably won't even see acknowledgement on the Milano site until late November or early Dec. What a way to run a railroad!
|
11-09-2017, 01:56 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rstriegel
I submitted my claim on line 27 September. Guess I have a long time to wait. I called the number on the rebate certificate and they said that I probably won't even see acknowledgement on the Milano site until late November or early Dec. What a way to run a railroad!
|
Yep Long wait, but u should get it by Spring 2018!
|
11-09-2017, 07:01 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2006
Location: south Florida
Posts: 317
Likes: 9
Liked 229 Times in 83 Posts
|
|
Got an e-mail today from FedEx that SAW (Smith and Wesson) in Pahduka, KY was sending me a package weighing 3 lbs. and requires an adult signature. I sent in my rebate form in around the end of June/early July. I am guessing that my mags/reloader/ammo is on the way.
__________________
handlebar-proud to be American
Last edited by handlebar; 11-09-2017 at 07:05 PM.
|
11-09-2017, 07:28 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: W Central Ohio
Posts: 24
Likes: 2
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
I got my FedEx email today for my rebate shipment. I filed my rebate August 6th, so it will be 14 weeks. Except I’m not home to sign, and won’t be for another week and a half. So I had to put my FedEx on vacation hold, so they will hold it for me till I get home.
I should have know it would come when I wasn’t there. No I shouldn’t have, who would have guessed 14 weeks for a rebate.
Mark
__________________
M&P 9 Shield
M&P 15 Sport
|
11-09-2017, 09:42 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 359
Likes: 12
Liked 277 Times in 139 Posts
|
|
What bothers me is that mine does not show on Milano website even after almost 2 months. Seems like most people are looking at 12 weeks or so, so i guess ill remain patient.
__________________
Smith all the things
|
11-09-2017, 09:53 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: W Central Ohio
Posts: 24
Likes: 2
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Mine didn’t show on Milano for nearly three months. And when it finally showed up, it said it was entered August 14, which was 11 weeks before it showed up.
As others have said, be patient. (I wasn’t)
__________________
M&P 9 Shield
M&P 15 Sport
Last edited by SanMarMor; 11-10-2017 at 09:12 AM.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
11-11-2017, 01:14 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 72
Likes: 4
Liked 109 Times in 36 Posts
|
|
I did my rebate on August 8th online, and finally got the Milano rebate inquiry site to show "info received" a few weeks back. I got the Fedex notice for something coming from "SAW" and due to arrive yesterday, and at first I thought "Oh great, that evil looking clown doll on the tricycle from the "SAW" movies is coming after me, and will say "Let's play a game".
It arrived yesterday, and was signed for at my apartment complex office by the staff. I opened it at home and the ammo was on top with the two magazines next to it, and some crumpled up brown paper in to take up space. I pulled them all out and saw tucked down between the box inside with the Caldwell loader in it was a third magazine. I don't know if someone lost count or got distracted during packing or if they threw in an extra for the long wait, but I'm not going to complain about it.
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
11-13-2017, 01:54 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: TX
Posts: 123
Likes: 46
Liked 81 Times in 43 Posts
|
|
I received an email confirmation of shipment on the way from SAW. Roughly 3 months from purchase date. Happy it’s on the way.
|
11-13-2017, 06:57 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Detroit
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 774
Liked 913 Times in 400 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by comiskeybum
What bothers me is that mine does not show on Milano website even after almost 2 months. Seems like most people are looking at 12 weeks or so, so i guess ill remain patient.
|
Mine did not show up either. Last week I called Milano and got right through(didn't expect that) and spoke to a very helpful woman who looked up and verified they had all of my information. She stated this rebate is processed by S&W, Milano just inputs it.
__________________
Plastic has no soul
|
11-14-2017, 09:49 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 6
Likes: 7
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by handlebar
Got an e-mail today from FedEx that SAW (Smith and Wesson) in Pahduka, KY was sending me a package weighing 3 lbs. and requires an adult signature. I sent in my rebate form in around the end of June/early July. I am guessing that my mags/reloader/ammo is on the way.
|
Thank you.
I posted in another thread that my rebate is expected to arrive 3 months after submission. Also fedex from Paducah, KY. I bought the gun and submitted rebate form online 8/18, and it should be here on Friday.
I am sympathetic towards the guys who got butthurt over the slow rebate process.. but pestering s and w or milano probably only increases their workload and delays processing. The extra goodies aren't going to change your life. Lots of people are buying these guns.
I think my Beretta PX4 free holster rebate arrived inside of a month, back in 2011. Needless to say, s and w sells many more mnps than beretta does px4s.
|
11-15-2017, 07:16 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: TX
Posts: 123
Likes: 46
Liked 81 Times in 43 Posts
|
|
Purchased two Shields, kind of expected to get two rebates. I received one from FedEx today, with no word about the another.
They're both listed on the Milano site, but I'm not about to get on the phone with S&W and waste my time hunting down the other one.
Honestly, slightly disappointed after 3 months of patiently waiting and not pestering anyone with phone calls. I figured they'd get it right, but I guess I'm shorted a rebate due to technical or paperwork error. This is the problem with rebates, it's as if the manufacturer is overworked by their own promises and it leaves the customer with a less than desirable experience in the long run.
|
11-15-2017, 10:52 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: South Central Kentucky
Posts: 3
Likes: 124
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
I received my rebate package today for my Shield 9. 2 boxes of ammo, 2 mags and the mag loader. It was shipped from Paducah, Ky, just 220 miles from me. Submitted the paperwork on July 11. Waited patiently and today it came. Looks good!
|
11-16-2017, 03:59 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4
Likes: 4
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Got the email on Sunday that something was preparing to ship Fedex from Paducah KY and low & behold got the package today! Showed up on Milano site as them processing 8/27 so you have some reference. Good things really do come to those who wait. Now to throw that Mag Charger on eBay and recoup the money I spent on Uplula.
Speaking of which, beware buying Uplula on eBay as the site is fraught with conterfeits. Mine looked great, had very similar packaging and markings but when I sent picture in to real company, they confirmed fake. It does work but for how long... worked with eBay and got very quick refund.
|
11-17-2017, 09:26 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southeastern Vermont
Posts: 22
Likes: 34
Liked 22 Times in 10 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowinRocks
@ Grump01 Some claim they receive a shipping/tracking number and others don't.
@ Vthillman Just take a photo of the receipt and contact S&W through Facebook. They'll take care of it. If Grab-a-gun didn't send a receipt with the full purchase price they'll kick it back. Milano said mine was a lay-a-way because it didn't have no price on it.
@akdude. Not sure. I've had ammo delivered and it will be sitting on my front steps when I get home. lol
|
The 'servicing' outfit didn't return the receipt, shifty ******s that they are. maybe I can get a copy from GAG. Thanks for the tip.
|
11-17-2017, 04:20 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cary NC
Posts: 436
Likes: 76
Liked 141 Times in 74 Posts
|
|
When I use the Milano website I am shown a rebate I got 7 years ago, but nothing about the one I sent in 8 weeks ago. But after reading most of the posts about this I realized 8 weeks is just about the midpoint.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
11-28-2017, 11:18 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 39
Likes: 2
Liked 17 Times in 12 Posts
|
|
Mine shows as processed on the Milano site on 8/25
I called Smith and Wesson last week, and the person at Smith actually showed it in their system and it was still awaiting fulfillment/shipping from Smith. She said sometime early to mid Dec...so according to them I still have a couple weeks to wait...
|
11-28-2017, 01:14 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
My 1st Rebate had shown on Milano site 8/25/17 and the 2nd showed on Milano 8/31/17 and nothing since then!
This AM got Fedex e-mail saying i have a package due for delivery tomorrow by 8PM, for reference says 8/31/17 but i now wonder if this both or just 1? I would think both would be in same package, since the reference is for the 2nd one, but i don't doubt anything after the 3 month wait!
Also it does say "Adult Signature Required"! Could b due to the Ammo since some companies do require an Adult signature or they want a receipt so no issues will develop later!
|
11-28-2017, 05:14 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NC
Posts: 17
Likes: 15
Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
At 10 weeks and still nothing showing on Milano.
|
11-28-2017, 08:27 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Update to previous post
Quote:
Originally Posted by dickbell888
Bought my M&P 9 Shield 8/3. Submitted rebate request online the same day. I received a letter 2 weeks ago from Milano telling me that my submission was invalid because I used a PO box for my shipping address. That was my mistake. The letter said to resubmit the request by mail NOT ONLINE which I did and this week the Milano update site now shows it as a valid request.
|
UPDATE!
I received an email from FedEx yesterday saying my package was shipped from Paducah, Kentucky and will arrive this Thursday. It will require an adult signature. I guess patience is a virtue.
|
11-28-2017, 10:10 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: The Rugged Llano Estacado
Posts: 3,618
Likes: 21,634
Liked 5,446 Times in 2,247 Posts
|
|
Mine was submitted on 8/11. It took three months to show up on Milano. I still haven't received anything, but I suppose it will be here sooner or later.
On the other hand, I submitted a $100 rebate for American Eagle ammo on 10/13. I received that check a couple of days before Thanksgiving. Like night and day . . . thanks Federal!
__________________
Or something like that . . .
Last edited by TX-Dennis; 11-28-2017 at 10:11 PM.
|
11-28-2017, 10:59 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Put mine in the mail on 8/12. Never could get mine to show up on Milano's site so I quit trying. Figured if I get it fine and if I don't fine. I didn't buy my Shield because of the freebies anyway. Pleasantly surprised when I received an email saying mine was shipping today.
|
11-29-2017, 01:33 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by akdude
My 1st Rebate had shown on Milano site 8/25/17 and the 2nd showed on Milano 8/31/17 and nothing since then!
This AM got Fedex e-mail saying i have a package due for delivery tomorrow by 8PM, for reference says 8/31/17 but i now wonder if this both or just 1? I would think both would be in same package, since the reference is for the 2nd one, but i don't doubt anything after the 3 month wait!
Also it does say "Adult Signature Required"! Could b due to the Ammo since some companies do require an Adult signature or they want a receipt so no issues will develop later!
|
Really don't know whats going on, since today i got the mags/ammo for my 2nd Rebate which was sent in 1 week after the 1st, but what happened to my 1st Rebate and since both show on Milano and this 1 was for the Shield, the 1st one was for the M&P 2.0 why didn't they sent both at same time?
Maybe there out of 2.0 Mags???
Wonder if i need to call ?? and see what happened to my earlier Rebate?
|
11-29-2017, 02:01 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
Just called S&W and explained my issue and they said the reason i didn't get the M&P Rebate 1st was/is since its a newer model than my Shield it would take a little longer but should be on way next few days!
My Shield mags seemed like they been in storage a long time since white Powder residue/Mold on the black bases and they were "DRY"!
I was able to get in contact with S&W in 2 minutes or so!
|
11-29-2017, 03:44 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Finally recieved mine today, 11/29/2017, submitted it by mail 7/9/2017.
|
11-29-2017, 09:36 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Received mine this evening. Mailed 8/12 . P.O. # on packing list shows as though must have been entered on 8/31. Shipped 11/28, Received 11/29. Worth the wait I guess for estimated $160.00 Retail in freebies.
|
11-29-2017, 09:42 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 370
Likes: 169
Liked 87 Times in 56 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grump01
Received mine this evening. Mailed 8/12 . P.O. # on packing list shows as though must have been entered on 8/31. Shipped 11/28, Received 11/29. Worth the wait I guess for estimated $160.00 Retail in freebies.
|
Don't know about the $160. Value and that includes the "Useless" Mag loader!
|
11-29-2017, 10:49 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 404
Likes: 36
Liked 491 Times in 190 Posts
|
|
I submitted my two on 16 & 28 September. Milano created a record for both today.
Not sure when I'll get them, but I signed up with FedEx so I'll know when to be home to sign.
|
11-30-2017, 11:05 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by akdude
Don't know about the $160. Value and that includes the "Useless" Mag loader!
|
My $160 value figure was adding up the approximate MSRP values if purchased. The usability of the Mag loader is to be determined.
|
11-30-2017, 08:10 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times in 17 Posts
|
|
Nothing like your Fall rebate goodies showing up the next Spring.
At least Marlin sent my $75 rebate within 2 months..and didn't make me get a "goodie rebate" because I live in a state where the cash rebates were verboten.
|
11-30-2017, 08:35 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 3
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
|
|
It will be 10 weeks tomorrow. Just checked the status and it finally says something. Says entry date of Nov. 6th. I submitted on Sept. 22nd. Hope it doesn't take another 5 to 7 weeks.
|
11-30-2017, 08:50 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 44
Likes: 5
Liked 18 Times in 11 Posts
|
|
I called yesterday and the rep said that they were processing rebates from mid to end of September. She said they would then be uploaded to the website and should be sent out 2 weeks from submission date on the website. I would take that with a grain of salt though.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
11-30-2017, 09:51 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 26
Likes: 3
Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts
|
|
My package was supposed to be delivered today now it says tomorrow totally unexceptal ! Haha my god people have patience you'll eventually get it sent it in around end of July
Last edited by Balright; 11-30-2017 at 09:52 PM.
|
12-01-2017, 12:11 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: SE PA
Posts: 225
Likes: 7
Liked 182 Times in 84 Posts
|
|
Still wonder what mags us guys who bought the 2.0C will get, 15 rounders or 17 rounders. I'm cool either way, just curious.
|
12-01-2017, 07:29 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
Mags, Ammo, loader rebate.
I finally appeared on the Milano website.
Submitted 27 Sept 2017
Submission validated on website 6 Nov 2017
No shipping date.
Maybe by New Years, but not holding my breath.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
12-01-2017, 07:04 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 20
Likes: 3
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
|
|
So it's going to come by Fedex Ground with ASR I take it. They usually show up around 10am, so I won't be home unless it gets delivered on a Saturday, that would be nice. I'll probably get carded. I wonder if you can authorize a release if you're signed up for Fedex Delivery Manager, which I am.
|
12-03-2017, 02:51 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by theextreme24
So it's going to come by Fedex Ground with ASR I take it. They usually show up around 10am, so I won't be home unless it gets delivered on a Saturday, that would be nice. I'll probably get carded. I wonder if you can authorize a release if you're signed up for Fedex Delivery Manager, which I am.
|
I don't know about a release, but there is "Hold at location" option of which I had mine held at one of my local Walgreen Drugs that now does FedEx in my area at least.
|
12-03-2017, 02:57 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 7
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Well I am back with my thought on the Magcharger. Someone who has never used an UpLULA may think it is okay, but sure don't think anyone would beat the UpLULA in a race............��. By the way, when did the MAGcharger come out compared to the UpLULA??? If it was much later, I'm surprised they didn't scrap the idea.............Then again maybe participating in this rebate is their way of getting rid of them and they'll disappear into the Sunset ? ? ?
Last edited by Grump01; 12-03-2017 at 03:05 AM.
|
12-03-2017, 07:40 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: HARRISBURG,PA
Posts: 40
Likes: 14
Liked 29 Times in 15 Posts
|
|
I got mine!
I got mine. It only took 2 months. One day I got an email saying to expect a package from S&W and 2 days later it showed up. I believe either the mag loader or the ammo was on backorder. The response on the deal was overwelming that they couldn't keep up. I am not ready to bash them yet, they still have been very good to me.
|
12-03-2017, 10:50 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 4
Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
My brother & I got the rebate in about 9-10 weeks. It was a heck of a deal, so we're not complaining!
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|