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Old 09-23-2017, 01:47 PM
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While at the range, after shooting just about 10 rounds, my trigger stuck. I was wondering if anybody has seen this and what the cause might be?


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Old 09-23-2017, 02:26 PM
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Did it cycle, live one in the chamber now? Were you able to clear it, operate the slide, etc? Were you able to manually reset the trigger, or is it stuck stuck?
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Old 09-23-2017, 03:08 PM
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You squeezed the trigger too hard. You'll have to disassemble the trigger assembly to re-position it (follow the video at the Apex website or YouTube and/or better yet, return it to the factory). That shouldn't happen.
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Old 09-23-2017, 03:56 PM
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It looks like the little plastic stop on the bottom of that trigger overcame the bump it's supposed to stop at in the trigger guard due to pulling too hard. See if you can get something soft in there to push it back over or as suggested, disassemble, pull it back to normal and reassemble.
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Old 09-23-2017, 08:58 PM
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Pulling too hard shouldn't be possible. If it is, there is a serious flaw in the design.

It does appear to be stuck on the stop. You should be able to pry it off, but you shouldn't have to.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:14 PM
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Pulling too hard shouldn't be possible. If it is, there is a serious flaw in the design.

It does appear to be stuck on the stop. You should be able to pry it off, but you shouldn't have to.
I agree. The trigger grouping is pinned in so I wouldn't think that would move. Unless something bent to where it could move up. Or bad molding somewhere in the mix. If it happens again I'd send it in. That would get annoying. Try a butter knife (or if you have any automotive tools an interior trim tool if is plastic) they both have enough area to pry forward without scarring the polymer
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:46 PM
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That shouldn't happen!
Here is how the trigger stop is on my 45 Shield, it would take a ridiculous amount of trigger crush to get it past the stop.





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Old 09-24-2017, 10:38 AM
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Did it cycle, live one in the chamber now? Were you able to clear it, operate the slide, etc? Were you able to manually reset the trigger, or is it stuck stuck?
There was one in the chamber, but I was able to get it out.
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:39 AM
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Pulling too hard shouldn't be possible. If it is, there is a serious flaw in the design.

It does appear to be stuck on the stop. You should be able to pry it off, but you shouldn't have to.
This was my thought. I have the sheild 9mm and the 40 and I have never had this issue.
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:41 AM
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I have opened a ticket with S&W. I will let ya know what there reply is.
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Those pics are great Karl! Thanks for that. They show perfectly what it should look like.

Here is the OP's picture zoomed in a little:


I can't tell the difference. Everything looks like it's the right proportion and in the right place when compared to Karl's pic. The trigger is just on top of the stop.

Again, it shouldn't be possible for a normal human to press the trigger hard enough to put it in this position.

Does the trigger wiggle from side to side?
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Odd for sure. I'm fairly certain the trigger for the 9mm version is different than the 45. I wonder if somehow this thing didn't get a 9mm trigger installed from the factory by mistake?
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OK, I was able to duplicate this on my Shield 9mm. It took both hands to do it, but I could get it up there. I can't imagine a normal shooting situation where this would happen. It took a lot of force to move mine up on the stop. I was able to pry it back down without too much difficulty.

I don't think this is a design flaw. It takes a lot of effort to make it stick like this. I don't know what the OP was doing or what his situation was, but if this happened during normal range shooting, the trigger is defective.
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Old 09-24-2017, 08:13 PM
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In the OP's photo, it looks like the top pin on the trigger is partially covered by the frame - abnormal. Looks like the trigger assembly moved up into the frame. Definitely a warranty issue I would think.
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In the OP's photo, it looks like the top pin on the trigger is partially covered by the frame - abnormal. Looks like the trigger assembly moved up into the frame. Definitely a warranty issue I would think.
I noticed that as well but dismissed it as an issue. I think it's more a product of the pivoting trigger being moved more rearward than designed if that makes sense. In other words, if the trigger was against the over travel stop like it should be the pin would be where it should like in the picture in post #7.
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Old 09-25-2017, 08:32 AM
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Just looking at an ad for the M2.0 and noticed that the bump on the frame is above the mag release button while the bump on the trigger remains the same. I suspect this is a known issue and S&W has taken steps to prevent it on the newer model.
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In the OP's photo, it looks like the top pin on the trigger is partially covered by the frame - abnormal.
I thought that too, but it's perfectly normal. When I duplicated this issue, it looked exactly the same as the OP's pic.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:38 PM
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You squeezed the trigger too hard. You'll have to disassemble the trigger assembly to re-position it (follow the video at the Apex website or YouTube and/or better yet, return it to the factory). That shouldn't happen.
Too hard? Lol

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Old 09-27-2017, 02:47 AM
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I cant imagine how this happens other than your pressing the trigger so hard that its jumping above the trigger stop.
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I cant imagine how this happens other than your pressing the trigger so hard that its jumping above the trigger stop.

I checked my 9 and 45 and gave each one a much, much stronger pull than I thought I would ever give it while shooting and couldn't come close to having the triggers jump the stop. Perhaps the frame is flexing much worse under recoil than with a static dry pull. Here's a Glock in slo-mo, I bet the Shield is just as bad.


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I checked my 9 and 45 and gave each one a much, much stronger pull than I thought I would ever give it while shooting and couldn't come close to having the triggers jump the stop. Perhaps the frame is flexing much worse under recoil than with a static dry pull. Here's a Glock in slo-mo, I bet the Shield is just as bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fr5ccyriJI
No, the shield is actually alot stronger than the glock.
Here`s a video that proves it... glock shakes like jello, M&P does not.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:10 PM
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I noticed a few rounds FTE.
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I noticed a few rounds FTE.
Not just a few, all. That Glock has either a broken or missing ejector. Terrible video. Using a broken gun to prove a point is really bad science.
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I had the same issue when I was breaking mine in. Between 200 and 400 rounds through it I had the trigger stick 3 times but I haven't had it happen again over 1000 rounds later. Each time I just cleared the chamber and popped the trigger back into position with my leatherman with no apparent damage.
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Is it possible that the trigger finger rides up right after break, thus pulling on the upper portion of the trigger, letting the bottom half of the trigger pivot back forward enough to clear the projection on the guard fairly easily? It seems like that would take a strange trigger pull to have it happen, but not out of the question as so much might happen during recoil. Might such a maneuver be grip related? I'd try to see if it would be easy to accomplish, but I've got the Apex trigger on mine and have no way to duplicate that movement.
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this is my daily carry a M&P 45acp 1.0. Never happened before this session was @ 300 rounds, happened like 4 times. Takes a bit of work to get it loose.

Lost confidence in it as my daily afterwards.


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I had the same issue when I was breaking mine in. Between 200 and 400 rounds through it I had the trigger stick 3 times but I haven't had it happen again over 1000 rounds later. Each time I just cleared the chamber and popped the trigger back into position with my leatherman with no apparent damage.
Looks like I spoke too soon. Last week I had my trigger stick again at the range. I'm going to talk to S&W and see what they have to say about it, will let you all know what they say.
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I bought my shield .45 cap yesterday, went to the range today and 30rds in had this same trigger stop issue happen. Anybody hear anything from S&W?
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