Looks like the new 2.0 series is a winner. I suspect it will give Glock a run for the money.
It's about time the people at S&W are listening to the people what they really want.
Now, if they will manufacture a single stack slightly larger than the current Shield line, that will be an immediate hit. Maybe a 3.5" barrel and a slightly longer grip and add a round or 2.
Thats want people want, not these tiny, sub compacts that no one can not hang on to.......
Make it and they will buy. Make the same and they will shy away.

I don't see the 2.0 giving anyone a run for anything just yet. Still too new. Same goes for every other new gun..... nothing against S&W.

If you're going to add 2 more rounds to the Shield then it may as well be a double stack. The point was to make a concealable gun for just about every one. Considering how many they sold before the rebate it seems like they are making what people want. Personally, owning both the Shield and the G43 I find that the 43 has a better trigger and more accurate

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No disrespect, but I find my Shield 9s (I have two) to be close to perfect for CCW. Heavy enough to tame the snap, but not too heavy. Small and thin, but with the extended mag I get a full grip, and even though it's only 6.1" long, it has a sight radius only 1/4" less than my old Ruger SR9c which was 6.8" long.

S&W has sold over a million of them, so I think people like them just fine. To each his own, though.

The large single stack you want already exists. It's usually referred to as a 1911.

Kahr makes a couple of larger single stacks as well. I somehow doubt their sales numbers are setting any records.

As far as a brand new S&W (or just about anything new from any manufacturer for that matter) giving Glock a run for their money, well that likely isn't going to happen. Every time someone introduces something to compete with Glock it gets lots of buzz and hype when it first comes out but ultimately I don't think it's cut into Glock's sales much.

I haven't met anyone that wants a larger single stack. Go buy an XDS 4.0 if that's your style?


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The Shield is the right size for what it is, and that is why it has done so well. Shield has been the most successful because it beat the Glock 43 to the market, and it works (if you can get one that does not drop its magazines due to recoil, and if you can get one without the recoil spring guide issues, etc.).

So, the Shield is the model in the line that needs the least change.

What S&W lacked all these years was a pistol to compete with the Glock 19. Finally, S&W has introduced a "Compact" to compete with the Glock 19 -
the same size as the G19 with a 15 round magazine and correspondingly shorter grip. That is a good move. Unfortunately, it has the sand paper frame of the new 2.0.

I'm sitting here just fat and happy with my 9C, poor trigger and all. If I had wanted a Glock 19, I would have bought a Glock 19.

I bought a shield 9mm like everyone else
1-Too big/blocky to pocket carry
2- not enough capacity to make it worth carrying at all.
3- NO M&P MAG COMPATIBLITY-THIS ALONE IS HUGE
I know everyone is a marksman but rest assured capacity is your friend.
CARRY AS MUCH GUN AS YOU CAN .
Needless to say I sold the shield .

Actually, if you add a Striker Industries mag extender you get an extra 2 rounds of 9mm and with the accuracy difference between the current 3.1" barrel and one .4 inches longer being slight, I doubt there would be enough additional interest for S&W to add another model to their line up. If you want more firepower and a 3.5" barrel, buy the old M&P9 C (Compact).

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I agree! I have a Shield, a 9C and a 2/0 and I love 'em all. Frankly, I'd rather drop my $$'s on a U.S. product than sending them elsewhere.

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Now you have made me curious.

Why did you buy a gun with several obvious characteristics that you could not live with?

I have the shield 9 for carry use. Have the 8 round mag plus 1 with Magguts + 1 chambered total of 10 . That is double of most revolvers and yet small enough for me when I do carry . I am able to hit decently at 5 to 7 yards . Why do some people in gun forums sound like they are gearing up for some type of war scenario . Or worry about hitting a target at 25 yards or more .

I still carry a 5 shot revolver (340PD) b/c weight is key due to hip & back problems. I'm a handicapped 70 y/o retiree and my orbits are pretty tame these days. That said I would carry something bigger if I could.

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I have the Shield, but end up carrying my M&P 40C much more
(Both are great)

I also try to buy American made whenever I still can
(I wont pay double for similar quality though)

I don't quite get some of this.

1-2. It can't have more ammo and still be small enough for pocket carry. Those guns are usually small and have limited ammo but it's a trade off

3- all guns are proprietary. The only reason some mags work in several models is because it's the same model just with a chopped down grip. Otherwise, if you have two different guns you'll need two different mags. My Sig mags don't work in my HKs and HK mags don't work in Glocks. Even the HK USP and USP compact have two different mags because they are two different guns and not just cut down versions. On top of that single stack mags can't be compatible with other higher capacity guns from the same company. Unless you're buying multiple sizes of the same gun it's irrelevant.

Not everyone can carry a full size gun. I do, I carry a G19 but that's because I can get away with wearing t-shirts and jeans at work. If I had a dress code is be carrying something smaller

But in the end none of this was hidden from you when you were looking at the Shield so why bother even spending money on it?

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Oh h--- someone has to say it ......... get yourself a S&W 3913!

I prefer a pistol with an external hammer, so all of mine but one have that. I like .45 caliber, so many of mine are in that caliber. My carry pistol for over 20 years has been a CS 45. S&W should make pistols like the fine generation 3 semi-autos they produced. I bought two J frame revolvers, that are well made and function properly. They still make good revolvers.

Agreed, someone needed to say it.

Sounds a lot like the gun they just dropped, the 1.0 Compact line.

By the way, if you use a extended mag it will make the grip a little longer and add a 2 rounds

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The perfect CCW gun is the one you'll actually carry. For me it's the 9mm Shield. I can get 10 rounds with the Mag guts kit, which is amazing for such a small gun. I do wish the grip were meatier, but then it wouldn't be so easy to carry.

With the right kind of practice it's as accurate as it needs to be. Mine fits in my back pocket, with a kydex trigger sheath. But on the belt it's ideal, I hardly feel it there.

If you want a bigger S&W single stack 9, get a 3913.

This. I actually don't prefer the G19 size. At least I probably wouldn't carry it everyday. I will say that if you carry appendix that size might be a little more comfortable (which I don't). In fact, the Compact 2.0 is so close to the full size I'm not sure why everyone is so giddy about it.

The Shield is perfect to me. Small, soft shooting for its size, 10+1 capacity (MagGuts), looks nice. I did change the trigger to an Apex, but the trigger wasn't as bad as other M&Ps.

Also, the Shield is not a true single stack (It also is not a double stack)

If they made a single stack any larger than the Shield it would be a XD-E so your wish has come true. LOL
XD-E™ 3.3" Single Stack 9mm - Springfield Armory

Given that Smith has sold over a million Shields (and the million point was hit a while ago, so it's probably substantially above that now), and that the Shield is pretty much the standard bearer of the subcompact single stack class, I think they have the market read better than you (at least with this model.)

Another vote here for the Shield 9 being about as perfect EDC as you'll find (actually, it takes a close 2nd to my trusty Airweight 38, but close enough).
Contrary to what many folks say, I've found the Shield,with the 7-rd mag, to be very pocket-carry frendly.
I'm also apparantly in the minority in liking the safety option, on a chambered,striker-fired pistol. But as the safety is a factory option, it's not a detriment, no matter how you feel about them.
I feel the Shield is an ideal compromise between being small and light enough to regularly carry comfortably, and having a respectablly adequate round and mag capacity, while also having a better trigger and sight radius than my beloved Airweight 38.
Sure, a Glock 17/19, or a 1911, or a Draco AK, might be better in a firefight, but realistically, none of us are ever going to be in a firefight. But we are going to be humping around an unconfortable,dangerous hunk of metal nearly every day of our lives. So, after reliability, the primary factor is comfort and unobtrusiveness.

ARIK- AS for propietary mags when I shot glocks my mags worked for all my 45's 30,21,41
As well as all my 9's 19,17
THAT IS CALLED A WEAPON SYSTEM
Bottom line.
I can wear my mp9, mp9c or 5" mp all using the same mags .
I can't see why anyone who already owns an mp9 would buy a shield .
The mags are propietary.
It's heavy
It's too big to pocket carry. Unless you wear Mc hammer pants
And LOW CAPACITY.
Look at how many shots cops fire at close range and miss.also look at the average crime involving multiple attackers.. I'm sure your all marksman but . THE SHIELD DOESN'T CUT IT.
Maybe they sold a million that just means they had clever marketing.

IF you're OPINIONS on what PEOPLE (a very wide loop) truly wanted was correct and absolute, you would be highly sought after & well paid by many gun manufacturers. If "people" actually got their "perfect" CC gun, the never ending search would end, gun sales would cease, putting a bunch of people out of work, and many mfgr's to go belly up.

That is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it.

I own a number of Glocks, 9mm - 19's and 26, .40 S&W - 23 and 35, and .45 - 21, 30, 36.

Guess what I carry (and it's not a Glock), it's a 3953 (I may someday switch over to my Shield, but I still can't shoot it as well as my 3953) and/or a 642.

I can carry anything I want (and trust me, I have many choices), and yet my Glocks sit in my safe, because they do NOT fit my hand well, AND I shoot my S&W's MUCH better.

So, again, you are welcome to your opinion, but that is all it is, YOUR opinion, nothing more.

S&W sold a million Shields because it's an outstanding little pistol that fits the needs of,well, a million people.
And, the 'average' crime does not involve multiple attackers, it involves a single perpetrator, from shoplifting to murder.
Also, the average gunfight is concluded with about 2.5 rounds.
And I've often pocket-carried my shield, and don't wear McHammer pants, just cargo shorts or loose-fit jeans. Sure, it doesn't disappear in a pocket like a Chap-stik, but it sure ain't like carrying around a Desert Eagle,either.
And TONS of excellent pistols (and rifles) use proprietary magazines, that isn't the kiss of death for them. There was a time when 1911 and G17 mags only fit one pistol.

I have been very happy using a carry rotation of M&P9C, Shield 9, and BG380, depending on the circumstances of the day. However, I did just buy a Shield in 45. I can't wait to try it out.

The Shield is a huge success, and the fact that it gets people's panties all twisted up is icing on the cake.