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Old 10-06-2017, 02:33 PM
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Picked up my new 2.0 Compact this morning, and was comparing it to my old original Compact. The original has been one of my favorite EDCs for years and I'm sure S&W will soon be renaming it as the Sub Compact since the new 2.0 version has arrived. The new pistol is slightly longer and higher and makes a lot of sense size wise. The first big difference is the aggressive grip texture, you'll not be needing grip tape on this one. It feels great in hand plus you get one extra back strap insert (medium large). Next the trigger is a huge improvement over the original with a crisp break and an audible and tactile reset. I look forward to a range session soon with it to see if it shoots as well as my original, I'll follow up with a range report next week. All in all I'm very impressed with the new version.
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Old 10-06-2017, 02:38 PM
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The only change to it will be sending it off to Robar, like all my other M&Ps for their NP3 finish. Anyone sitting on the fence about purchasing one of the new Compacts I recommend you handle one to see what you think.
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...old original Compact. The original has been one of my favorite EDCs for years and I'm sure S&W will soon be renaming it as the Sub Compact since the new 2.0 version has arrived.
I'm hoping that they bring out an M&P M2.0 Compactˢᵍ, that being the 4" slide on a Short Grip frame that would use the 12/10 mags of the old 9c/40c.

I carry at 4 o'clock so the extra half inch in barrel length doesn't matter in terms of carryability [sp?] and concealability [sp?], but the extra sight radius and barrel length would be welcome. Grip height matters a lot more at that position.

I'm going to try out one of the new 13 round 40 mags for my 1.0 40c, as my extra carry mag, as the 15 round FS one is a bit long and cumbersome. I'll wait until the market supply pipe gets filled, because you guys who actually have one of the new Compacts should have first dibs.

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Old 10-06-2017, 04:11 PM
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That would be an interesting combination. Another thing I noticed was that the forward slide rail in the 2.0 frame is much longer than the original giving the slide more to run on. The stainless guide rod is also a nice touch.
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my 9C 1.0 has been one of my all time favorite guns to carry , and shoot at the range.
I can't wait ti get my hands on one of these to see what I think about it.
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I too enjoy my M&P 9c and it's been a good reliable and accurate carry pistol. I look forward to shooting it side by side with my new Compact 2.0. I'm sure S&W will upgrade the older Compact to a 2.0 and probably rename it the Sub Compact.
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:57 PM
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Here are some range pics, this new Compact is accurate. The 1'st photo is a group fired at 10 yards shooting Federal 147 grn HST, the 2'nd pic is at 15 yards shooting 124 grn Federal HST +Ps, 3'rd pic is 15 yards shooting 115 grn Winchester White Box FMJ. Each group is 10 shots.
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Thanks for that. I thought it looked a little bigger than the original but, I wasn't sure until now. The super short grip of the original is how I ended up getting a Shield. The slimmer profile really had very little to do with my decision.

The more I look into this new 2.0 version, the more I like it and I'm leaning more toward getting one for myself.
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Shot the 2.0 Compact last Friday. Gun showed inherent accuracy but trigger was very gritty and I didn't like the manual safety. Both issues easily solved. I've always hated Glocks. Forced to carry a Glock 23 for an agency I worked for seven years.

Said all that to say this: I will purchase a 2.0 Compact w/o the manual safety and install an APEX USB and hard sear, and leave the springs stock. The 2.0 Compact has a bright future!
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:28 PM
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So, in short, they took the original compact and made it a touch bigger/longer and then called it the compact 2.0 and then we think they *may* take the size of the original compact and make it again as a 2.0 version but call it a sub-compact? LOL! I think I've got it now. LMAO!

I have the original 40c and I've carried it for a long time. I like it, but as Hamster said, I wasn't always really thrilled about the super short grip, even though I don't have really big hands. I just recently bought the 40 Shield and really like it both for it being a bit slimmer, but also for the longer grip profile as well.

So, if this "Compact 2.0" is a bit longer in the grip like the Shield is, I just may have to look into one to replace my original 40c.
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I'll wager the Compact 1.0 3.5" double stack will ultimately disappear. The Shield by sheer weight in numbers will do in a chopped 80s era design plastic pistol.

PS I own a 40C 1.0 edition and it's a good weapon, but it's neither fish nor fowl in 2017.
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So, in short, they took the original compact and made it a touch bigger/longer and then called it the compact 2.0 and then we think they *may* take the size of the original compact and make it again as a 2.0 version but call it a sub-compact? LOL! I think I've got it now. LMAO!

I have the original 40c and I've carried it for a long time. I like it, but as Hamster said, I wasn't always really thrilled about the super short grip, even though I don't have really big hands. I just recently bought the 40 Shield and really like it both for it being a bit slimmer, but also for the longer grip profile as well.

So, if this "Compact 2.0" is a bit longer in the grip like the Shield is, I just may have to look into one to replace my original 40c.
Well really I think S&W sought to make a Glock 19 sized M&P. Hence the M&P Compact 2.0

It will be interesting to see what they do with the original compact and if they keep it around to keep a double stack sub compact (Glock 26 competitor) in the line up or they drop it in favor of the Shield.
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Well really I think S&W sought to make a Glock 19 sized M&P. Hence the M&P Compact 2.0

It will be interesting to see what they do with the original compact and if they keep it around to keep a double stack sub compact (Glock 26 competitor) in the line up or they drop it in favor of the Shield.
They probably will drop it and keep the Shield line since it is doing so well. That is my guess, but then again, I have no clue. LOL! Especially if the new compacts are doing well with sales.
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I chose the Shield 9 over the 9c for my EDC due to the short grip on the 9c, just wasn't a good fit in my hand. Thanks for the info on the 2.0, I'll have to check it out, though I have no complaints with my Shield.
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I have a shield and ended up carrying my Glock 19 instead. Now that I have the 2.0 I am carrying it. Only downside is I’m fat and the grip texture is pretty aggressive carrying at 5 o’clock. I used some fine sandpaper and cleaned it up so it’s not as harsh. Now the issue is mags, I have Glock 19 mags stashed in every vehicle and all over the place. Probable 30 in total. Having just 1 spare mag is a bummer and these mags are impossible to find and pricey when you do. I definitely like it better than the 19 but will have to use the 19 in a couple weeks for a class just because of the mags situation.


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I have a shield and ended up carrying my Glock 19 instead. Now that I have the 2.0 I am carrying it. Only downside is I’m fat and the grip texture is pretty aggressive carrying at 5 o’clock. I used some fine sandpaper and cleaned it up so it’s not as harsh. Now the issue is mags, I have Glock 19 mags stashed in every vehicle and all over the place. Probable 30 in total. Having just 1 spare mag is a bummer and these mags are impossible to find and pricey when you do. I definitely like it better than the 19 but will have to use the 19 in a couple weeks for a class just because of the mags situation.


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I have a shield and ended up carrying my Glock 19 instead. Now that I have the 2.0 I am carrying it. Only downside is I’m fat and the grip texture is pretty aggressive carrying at 5 o’clock. I used some fine sandpaper and cleaned it up so it’s not as harsh. Now the issue is mags, I have Glock 19 mags stashed in every vehicle and all over the place. Probable 30 in total. Having just 1 spare mag is a bummer and these mags are impossible to find and pricey when you do. I definitely like it better than the 19 but will have to use the 19 in a couple weeks for a class just because of the mags situation.


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As a fellow fat guy I'm used to stuff rubbing in weird places. Chafing happens when you're my size. As far as the mag situation, you could use 17 rounders if you have them.
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I don’t unfortunately. I switched to Glocks back a few years ago when I went from .40 to 9mm. This is my first Smith 9mm in about 7 years. Last one I had was a sd9 that I gave to my ex wife. Now I have a safe full of Glocks 17,19,23,26,34 I may be forgetting 1.


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I don’t unfortunately. I switched to Glocks back a few years ago when I went from .40 to 9mm. This is my first Smith 9mm in about 7 years. Last one I had was a sd9 that I gave to my ex wife. Now I have a safe full of Glocks 17,19,23,26,34 I may be forgetting 1.


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Well there goes that idea. I can't believe that it's taking them this long to release spare mags. I know people who take training and/or stock up mags seem to be the minority but still i think they should have planned this a bit better.
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Yeah I’ve got like 30 Glock mags plus stick mags for my Glock mag AR9’s. They seem to multiply.


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I picked up a new S&W M&P 2.0 Compact yesterday, I was surprised to find out it has two 16 round magazines, I thought they were 15, but this is great, now I'll have 17 aboard, I was sold on this trigger as well as the steel sights, the grip is perfect for me, and fits my hand like a glove, now for some range time as soon as I can get away to do it...

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I picked up a new S&W M&P 2.0 Compact yesterday, I was surprised to find out it has two 16 round magazines, I thought they were 15, but this is great, now I'll have 17 aboard, I was sold on this trigger as well as the steel sights, the grip is perfect for me, and fits my hand like a glove, now for some range time as soon as I can get away to do it...


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That’s strange. Mine are 15
Mine were 15 too...until I removed the baseplate.

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I would think the 1.0 compact will get the 2.0 treatment as the subcompact. I'm not sure if I'll end up with one or not. First I've got my sights set on a new Shield 2.0 to go with my 2.0 compact.

In checking things out the 2.0 compact had the same grip profile as the Shield with the 8 round magazine inserted.
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I have a 9Compact - being called a 1.0 version. I have large hands. Is the grip of the new 2.0 Compact longer, better suited for large hand shooters? What are the comparative grip dimensions? I have the magazine extension on mine so I can use the 17 round magazine, but makes for a very long grip. All comments appreciated! Regards, Ed
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The 2.0 compact has an almost identical grip length to a Glock 19. Think 1/4 inch shorter than the full size.


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They probably will drop it and keep the Shield line since it is doing so well. That is my guess, but then again, I have no clue. LOL! Especially if the new compacts are doing well with sales.
I believe the MP9C will be Archived as was the MP9FS. As for the MP9 Sub compact, S&W already has one. It is called the M&P®9 Shield M2.0™
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I believe the MP9C will be Archived as was the MP9FS. As for the MP9 Sub compact, S&W already has one. It is called the M&P®9 Shield M2.0™
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I think the only differences between the M1.0 & M2.0 grip is the length, texture and an additional grip insert.

Overall Height of the M1.0 9c is 4.3”, the Overall Height of the M2.0c is 5.0", so its grip is not quite 3/4" longer, so I'd say it would be easier to grip with large hands.
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I think the only differences between the M1.0 & M2.0 grip is the length, texture and an additional grip insert.

Overall Height of the M1.0 9c is 4.3”, the Overall Height of the M2.0c is 5.0", so its grip is not quite 3/4" longer, so I'd say it would be easier to grip with large hands.
Thank you very much!! Exactly the info I had hoped for....Best Regards, Ed
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I've always been fond of the M&P line. I considered them "tweeners" due to their size comparison as the fullsize fits between a Glock 17&19. The compacts, between the G19 & 26. Although I've railed in the past about the quality of the stock triggers. I've found the accuracy of the compacts on par with the Glocks I have worked with. So much so that they have turned into my EDC. I actually prefer the size of the original compact as it makes a much easier carry. Although I like the new compact, I can't see myself purchasing one and replacing my current Apex'd compacts.
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3/4" is not too bad. 2.0 Compact mags might make a good wintertime/heavy clothing carry mag for my 1.0 40c if somebody will make some decent spacers. 13 > 10.

I guess I could try cutting down some XGrip spacers.
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I just came home with my new 2.0 C in 9mm. I really like it's size and the full grip in the hand. I had the 1.0 compact in 9mm, but it never felt right because the grip was to short. My new 2.0 will become my EDC after I run a couple hundred rounds through it.
It fits perfect in my Sig P229 OWB belt holster and with a small modification, it fits perfectly in my Masters Shoulder holster.
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Holster makers must be pulling their hair out. It was bad enough before.
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For those of you who self-described themselfs as "fat" (and even not so), they make iwb holsters that cover the gun grip. Love the grip in my hand, but it wreak havoc on my "love handles". I just ordered one.
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For those of you who self-described themselfs as "fat" (and even not so), they make iwb holsters that cover the gun grip. Love the grip in my hand, but it wreak havoc on my "love handles". I just ordered one.
If you saw me the word "fat" would not be in quotations. Lol
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I sent my slide off to Robar for their NP3 finish and as soon as it returns I'll post some photos.
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