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Old 10-08-2017, 08:46 PM
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Got a chance to pick-up a 'slightly' used (less than 50 rounds, claimed) Shield 9mm tomorrow...and will probably grab it?

Guy is down to $200 (with box and everything) as he wants to purchased another pistol...and, from my research, that's a decent price.

Any suggestions regarding ammo for the 9mm Shield...what it likes...what it doesn't like, etc.

My personal preference in 9mm is CorBon 115 grain JHP's...

I also like Hornady's 115 grain JHP FTX's...

Both are a bit hotter than normal...but I prefer that 'pop' when I shoot as I grew up on .357 magnum revolvers and I'm comfortable with the 'pop' when I shoot.

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Old 10-08-2017, 09:01 PM
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With the rebate, a new one will only run about 25 dollars more than thst used one. Just food for thought. I haven't had any issues with any ammo in mine, and I run just about anything I can get my hands on.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:02 PM
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Will he let you shoot it first ? Need to look at supposed problems with the Sheild. I find it hard to believe anyone would buy a new gun only shoot 50 rounds then sell it at such a lose if there was not a problem. I would suggest meet at a gun range to make the sell.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:04 PM
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Good price. Go for it. My Shield eats about anything I give it. I've settled on using these.

147 grain


but these work just fine.

124 grain
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:05 PM
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With the rebate, a new one will only run about 25 dollars more than thst used one. Just food for thought. I haven't had any issues with any ammo in mine, and I run just about anything I can get my hands on.
Rebate is History!
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:16 PM
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For range ammo 115 gr fmj have run Blazer Brass , Herters , PMC , Federal , all good had one bobble with a BB wouldn't chamber was slightly out of spec . Also JHP Speer and Critical Defense and Sig no issues . Bought but have not shot Federal 124 HST JHP .
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:17 PM
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Rebate is History!
You're right, my mistake. Must be postmarked by 10/31.. misread it.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:28 PM
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$75 cash rebate is history. Purchase had to have been made no later than 6/30/17. Current rebate is for a package of S&W goods.
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$75 cash rebate is history. Purchase had to have been made no later than 6/30/17. Current rebate is for a package of S&W goods.
That's the 1 I am talking about! Its History!
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$75 cash rebate is history. Purchase had to have been made no later than 6/30/17. Current rebate is for a package of S&W goods.
For most of us, the second rebate was goodies. But the second rebate was $75 for "residents of Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York."

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Old 10-08-2017, 10:31 PM
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The Rebate for mags/ammo & Junk loader ended Sept 31! It was the reason I bought the 2.0 and 1 1/2 later the Shield, figured the mags/ammo for 2.0 worth about $100. and the Shield mags/ammo about $85-$90.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:33 PM
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For range ammo 115 gr fmj have run Blazer Brass , Herters , PMC , Federal , all good had one bobble with a BB wouldn't chamber was slightly out of spec . Also JHP Speer and Critical Defense and Sig no issues . Bought but have not shot Federal 124 HST JHP .
Mine too eats about everything 115 ball. Winchester Whitebox cheap Federal from Wal-mart, fiocchi, PPU and Freedom Munitions. Over 1000 rounds thru mine, had one stovepipe with the dirty federal, and one FTF with the WWB. Chocking both of those up to the cheap ammo. No problems at all with the Freedom, I've shot 25 Federal HST 124's and 75 HST 147s. I carry the 147s. Should shoot 200 more of those to be sure. I shoot mostly steel plates at our club's rural outdoor range at 7-12 yards. When I go 6 for 6 on plates, I turn to the side and take a 70 yard shot at a torso-sized plate. The Shield is better hitting that then my "wife's" RM380.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:58 PM
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My first trip to the range with my Shield I took all the partial boxes of 9mm I had laying around, ranging from Win White Box to some odd-ball 25 year old stuff from a custom loader in Maine to left over issue Federal 115 gr. HP that had to be over 30 years old to Barnes +P HP. 0 issues.

It is now loaded with Sig V-Crown 124 gr. JHPs.

Reasonable accuracy at 7 Yards. This is the 2nd 100 rounds that day.



And since we've started comparing the Shield to the RM380, here's the 2nd 100 from one of those a month before.



The Shield clearly has the edge and also did not raise a blister on my trigger finger as the Remington did. I'd consider $200 a good price. Some people are just fickle when it comes to guns, but I'd try to talk him into a range session, too.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:16 AM
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The Shield is my EDC. When I bought it (new), the slide was difficult to rack and the magazine springs very powerful. I followed advice from the forums and left the slide locked back a few days and the magazines loaded with snap caps. From then, everything has been fine with mine.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:59 AM
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My Shield 9 doesn't like Federal HST 147, failure to feed about 10% of the ammo. The hollow point gets hung up on the feed ramp. But no problem with any other ammo.

Any advice on a solution is appreciated.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:41 AM
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My personal preference in 9mm is CorBon 115 grain JHP's...
I worked for Barnes Bullets, so I carry their TAC-X loading of their all-copper expanding 9mm 115 grn hollow point.

Corbon used to load the same bullet, just faster.

However, because the bullet is long for its weight (copper=less dense than lead), it is difficult to load in the relatively short 9mm case. It has to be set deep enough to meet Overall Length (OAL) requirements, but that actually reduces powder capacity compared to lead bullet loading.

To get 1250 FPS with a copper bullet, few powders are available. I suspect that such a hot loading will produce more recoil and flash. I also suspect that FPS claim.

The patent on the Barnes' design expired. I believe Corbon has replaced their former Barnes-supplied bullet with a slightly changed all-copper bullet of their own design. It probably performs very well.

However, I know the Barnes products. They are loaded with low flash powder and are incredibly reliable and consistent. Others, such as Black Hills and Asym also have excellent loads using the Barnes XPD all-copper bullets.

For personal defense all of these loads based on the Barnes design will serve you well. Many modern lead based bonded bullets perform very well also at less cost. I still choose to shoot the Barnes TAC-X 9mm 115 grn.
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Both are a bit hotter than normal...but I prefer that 'pop' when I shoot as I grew up on .357 magnum revolvers and I'm comfortable with the 'pop' when I shoot.
I don't understand this. Can you explain what you mean by "pop" please? How does it make you shoot better?
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Old 10-09-2017, 01:17 PM
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My Shield 9 doesn't like Federal HST 147, failure to feed about 10% of the ammo. The hollow point gets hung up on the feed ramp. But no problem with any other ammo.

Any advice on a solution is appreciated.
Have you polished the feed ramp?
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:23 PM
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$200 for a used shield is a no brainer.


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Old 10-09-2017, 04:18 PM
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...but I prefer that 'pop' when I shoot as I grew up on .357 magnum revolvers and I'm comfortable with the 'pop' when I shoot.

Thanks in advance...
Your best chance of finding the "pop" you like with 9mm target ammo is with Winchester NATO 124g FMJ. It is loaded to almost +P level, and provides a noticeable extra kick (if that's what you're referring to) over standard ammo. And it's accurate. The last bunch of NATO I shot resulted in my best shooting ever at 15 yards with my Shield (5000 total rounds). Best of all, it's affordable. It's not hard to find online for $10-11 per 50.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:41 PM
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If you want some “pop” try Fiocchi ammo. You def know when you shoot it.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:38 PM
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9mm pop , I guess that would be about right. If you type in shield problems in youtube you an almost endless line of vids.
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Haven't had any ammo issues yet. Ran mine all day today with WWB 115gr FMJ, Federal 147gr FMJ FP, Browning target 115gr FMJ, and Federal HST Law Enforcement 124gr JHP (Man that stuff is hot!). I have yet to have any issues (No FTE, FTF, etc) since I bought it in May.
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I like to stick with rounds that have street proven reliability. NYPD have been using the Speer Gold Dot 124+P for many many years and seem to have decent real stret shooting results. Las Vegas Metro (I believe ) issue the Federal HST 124 grain+P.
Not sure how many REAL street shootings Barnes, or corbon or Hornady have to their credit.
Stick with whats been proven in actual street shootings would be my choice
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Yes, first thing I did to try to correct the problem.
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I don't understand this. Can you explain what you mean by "pop" please? How does it make you shoot better?
Now you're just being obtuse, and you know it. Hotter ammo (like Euro Fiocchi tends to be, as already mentioned), has more of a distinct "pop" than, say WWB or Blazers.
And it obviously doesn't make him shoot better, he just said he liked a crisp report.
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9mm pop , I guess that would be about right. If you type in shield problems in youtube you an almost endless line of vids.
with over a million of the sold I'd be surprised otherwise.
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