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New Shield 2.0 on S&W website.

Now that they have sold three bazillion Shields that I didn't like in the first place, they are going to fix it. Maybe I will buy one this time after I have a chance to take a look at it.

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Dr. B

If they build one with an external hammer, I may consider it.

I'll buy one only if they do another rebate

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M&P 9, Shield9.

Kind of hard to do on a striker fired gun.

They coulda/shoulda done so much more for a 2.0 shield, but they opted not to........I'll keep my Shield 45 and pass on the 2.0 9mm......


Will try to be positive about the new BG......fingers crossed.......

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Hipcocked45

Ok. Looks fine. However....
I’m sticking with my current 9mm and .45 Shields.

So what are improvements? Website link didn't say much. I have a 9mm that I have had for almost 4 years. No problems!

We have over 400 shields that we need to sell through at my store. The 2.0 is a good improvement though. I am willing to bet the bodyguard gets the 2.0 treatment next.

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Smith all the things

1. Aggressive grip texture - like the 45 Shield.
2. Revised trigger stop on frame.
3. Front of slide scallops - like 45 Shield.
4. Supposed trigger improvement - like the 45 Shield.
5. $30 Higher retail price.

If you already have a nice Shield, why "upgrade"?
By the way, most newer production Shields already have an "improved" lighter trigger.
If they offer a $100 cash rebate, I'd buy a few.
Otherwise, I'll wait for the Springfield XDE 45 with external hammer...

Well if they go & just make a small version of the shield in 380 & call it the BG 2.0 then they will be going after Glock again & Ruger will continue to hold most of the 380 pocket pistol market.
Ruger went outside the box with their LCP II & I think hit a home run. I would like to see S&W come up with something to really compete with them.

1. Hate the aggressive grip on Shield 2.0 (love it on my M&P 9 2.0) but on Shield grip touches my skin 100% of time, since I carry IWB tuckable holster and don't wear t-shirts!

2. Mine was made 06/07/17 so it has new trigger stop?

3. Front scallops (useless but look cool/evil).

4. From all I read mine has the new "Improved trigger".

5. More $$, mine was $299. so with rebate value of $125. actual cost was $175.

So I love my 1.0 Shield!.

One thing though I don't quite understand is the white S&W label on side of box.

Says.

M&P 9 Shield NTS STD Trigger
06/07/17

I guess the NTS means No Trigger Safety?
I guess the STD means Standard Trigger? There never was an optional available!

The gun store label list same as in line 1, M&P Shield 9 NMS.
Guess that means no manual safety.

So why does box list STD Trigger?

I'm not sure that the 'STD' actually means Standard, but if it does, Standard would mean 'NOT the heavier MA/CA compliant trigger'.

Thank You! That is exactly what it means! (I think)

So I Guess, mine has all the 2.0 features except the Scallops, Grips and higher price?

would have been nice to have a model with grip activated lazer, and rails, and upgraded sights.......just saying.............

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Hipcocked45

Yeah wonder what there going to do with shield 45. It already has improved trigger and grip like the 2.0 anyway I really like the aggressive grip and improved trigger over my old shield 9. I also have the m&P 2.0 full size which I really like a lot.

Wonder if they have the same type of trigger bar the M2.0 FS & C have?

Grumble grumble why would S&W make a 66-1 when my no-dash was just fine!!!

Like it, buy it; don't like it, keep whatcha got!

As mentioned in an earlier posted I have had my Shield since January of 2014. I have always thought the trigger was fine maybe even a little light compared to the Glock 23 I carried before I retired.

As for the grip - something with a little bit of a palm swell would help. I put a Pachmeyer Grip Grove on mine as I was used to shooting / qualifying with the double stack Glock and needed something more in my hand.

If they have a rebate next summer, I'm in for a .40.

Otherwise, no need.

I think the Shield 45 has most of the enhancements already, that the Shield 2.0 brings to the 9 and 40 models, except the integrated laser, which as far as I know, isn't available on the 45. I noticed that the 2.0 line doesn't include a 45, thus my reasoning.

Looks like the new one is lighter by a few oz's

The 9/40 Shield 2.0 weighs EXACTLY the same as the 1.0 and that's 20.3 ounces WITH a 6-Round magazine.
S&W has mis-stated the weight as 18 ounces without disclosing that is with NO magazine.
What relevance does the 18 ounce spec have to the real world since you can't use the gun with no magazine? The spec should be stated as the true weight of 20.3 ounces.

There are numerous examples of S&W apparently mis-stating the actual specs on various configurations of many of their offerings. Maybe this is intentional or maybe it's just plain sloppy presentation but, it's nothing new.

This. I would love a " Shield .380"

I'll keep my 1.0 shield. It has TFO's And Talons. All of the contact points of the trigger assembly have been hand polished and a Apex sear has been added.
It runs flawlessly!

Many manufacturers state the weight of the gun without a magazine, because loaded magazines can weigh different amounts based on the weight of the bullets (Yes, bullets). The weight of the gun is constant; not so for magazines. If you need to know the weight of the loaded gun to the nearest half ounce, you need to weigh the loaded gun yourself. S&W can't do that for you since they don't know what ammo or magazines you and everybody else will use.

Gun with EMPTY magazine!!!

They all have trigger safeties. The NTS means No Thumb Safety. The gun store label just called it No Manual Safety

agreed, but when i look at the old shield, did the weigh that one with the mag in? it states its 20.3 oz. So they changed the way the weigh them? put them side by side on the page and the 1.0 says 20.3, new one says 18.x..

Yes, you are correct. Old Shield weight with empty mag;
New Shield weight without empty mag.

S&W specs regarding features, weight & size are conflicting or missing in many of their website product listings and catalogs. It makes it very difficult for a buyer to compare similar products and causes confusion, like here.

Thanks, this is good to know. I was hoping for a lighter weight shield. I would love to carry the shield more but to be honest its heavier than my CM9 and CW9. And its noticable for me. My shield almost weighs as much as my XDS in 45. Surely they could have made this lighter by a couple of oz.. Most people probably will say it doesn't matter, but it does to me.

Don't think there ever will be a 9mm lighter then the Keltec PF9!

For whatever reason, S&W decided to restate the original Shield's weight before the introduction of the 2.0.

S&W's 2016 catalog showed 19.0 ounces across the board while the 2017 catalog showed a variety of heavier weights.
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I don’t really care about an ounce or two in pistol weight. With a good holster and belt for AIWB concealed carry it doesn’t make any difference—to me.

For others a couple of ounces could be one of the absolutely critical characteristics that would make or break a gun purchase.

in my calculations its about 4-5 oz over my CM/CW when both mags are full and inserted. And yes the CM holds one less but the CW is also lighter.

don't get me wrong, i love my shield, but when i saw "slimmer, lightweight" i was assuming it lost some weight and size. I can't conceal a larger gun.

Weird...the 2017 Shield 9 shows 20.2 and the Shield 40 shows 18.1 (both with night sights). Yet they are the same firearm. That is so weird. So you have to wonder where they are truly getting these weights from. With mags, without mags, with a squirrel stepping on the scale too or what. LOL It didn't matter to me because I was carrying a Kahr CW380 and that was like 10.5 oz and I went to a 40 Shield which was advertised at 19.0 oz, so I already knew I was going up over half a pound. It is what it is. But I find it funny that there are major inconsistencies on the same 2017 product sheet between the 9 Shield and 40 Shield since they are "supposed" to be the same frame and all that jazz.

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Mat - M&P 40c & 40 Shield

I would actually tend to trust the different weights in the 2017 catalog more than the across-the-board weight in the 2016 catalog.

A gun in 9mm should probably weigh more than the same gun in 40 caliber. The smaller 9mm bore means that a barrel contains more metal than the same barrel with a larger bore.

I would agree with you about them weighing different. It makes sense. I wouldn't see how they could weigh the same if they have different barrels and such. However, I never thought about a 9mm weighing more than a 40 because of more metal in the barrel. Hmmm...something to think about. I always thought about it being the opposite only because the barrel needed to be thicker in the 40 to contain the bigger psi rating of the .40 cal. But you may be right. I truly don't know. I'd have to look it up.

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Mat - M&P 40c & 40 Shield

I know it's that way on the xds. The 9 weighs more than the 45 due to the thicker barrel. Gc70 is correct.

I like the integrated laser. But living in MA, any work done to the trigger will not make the cut.

Just an excuse to buy another gun, My shield 9mm (bought when they first came out 2012 with safety) have awesome triggers at least mine do. The grip never really bother me as I have the Talon Grip rubber ones on. Bought a NO safety Shield 9mm which has been equally reliable and accurate. and last year bought the shield 45 which is another fine gun. Been very very happy with the S&W M&P line specially the Shields
I'll buy the Shield 2.0 just to have another shield NOT because I thinks its a better performing gun
1SG
Out

Went to a few different gun shops here locally and got to handle the new 2.0. I don't know if it was me but the aggressive grip texture did not seem as aggressive as my full sized 2.0 did when I first got it. Could be that I have gotten use to the texture from handling my full size so much. I ended up ordering the standard 2.0 shield 9mm with no safety and should be here early next week. Looking forward to breaking it in.

The only 2 things the 2.0 Shield can do my old made 3 months ago Shield cant do is 1) scrape my side due to grips texture and 2 ) cost a he-l of a lot more!

Enough said!

Me too! There's nothing wrong with my current Shield (NTS). It goes bang every time and hits whatever I point it at. You can't really ask for more than that. I'm in love with my new 45 Shield, since I installed the Stainless Steel guide rod, too.

I would definitely be interested in an improved M&P 380. I like my current one, but I don't love it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes that!

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Hipcocked45

Be careful talking about SS guide rode here. They will turn on you quick lol.
Btw, mine is still running strong even though many predicted catastrophic failure.