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My question is have anyone had their Shield’s slide safety engaging by accident.
My question is have anyone had their Shield’s slide safety engaging by accident. I have one of the first Shields in 9mm, it has the slide safety, it is a great EDC (except when I am carrying a 642 in my front pocket). The slide safety is a concern (what if it get put on by accident?). Would there be any problem in just gluing it in the off position (I know that there may be a problem in disabling any safety).
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I have one, and the lever is so small and recessed that I have trouble 'intentionally' engaging it - highly unlikely for it to go on safe accidentally, I think. It may be better to trade for a non-safety model if you are concerned.
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old-school,
TRAIN yourself to use it, then carry it engaged or disengaged, your choice. Then you won't have to worry about the infamous "Murphy" of Murphy's Law fame raising his dang head at the most inopportune time because it will have been disengaged in your draw stroke!
Personally, I would not carry any pistol that has safety and not train to use it...Ol Murphy has visited me WAY TOO MANY TIMES!
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01-09-2018, 03:06 PM
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Nope. But I also am used to 1911s and deactivate/ride the safety. Even on the tiny safety of the Shield, my thumb sits nearly atop it.
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01-09-2018, 05:06 PM
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... The slide safety is a concern (what if it get put on by accident?). Would there be any problem in just gluing it in the off position (I know that there may be a problem in disabling any safety).
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old-school - What if it discharged, by accident, if the safety was off? If your Shield could be jostled around enough to engage the safety, maybe it could be jostled around enough for you to have a negligent discharge... Just sayin’
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01-09-2018, 05:31 PM
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I haven't holstered my Shield (PC w/ safety) yet, but for what after 1300+ rounds shot in numerous range visits and all the handling going on there, not once have I touched the safety or found it in a position it wasn't meant to be. And when I do start to holster it, the safety would be part of any training i'd do.
just my .02
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01-09-2018, 05:37 PM
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I have a Shield 45, and the safety is unobtrusive, and very positive (clicks on and off with some effort.) I have never found it to be engaged or disengaged unless I intended for it to be.
As others have mentioned, you should train to use it if you have it on your gun. If you want to disable it, don't superglue it...you can remove it (or have a gun smith do it.) I haven't looked for myself, but I've read other comments about kits to plug the hole where the safety was. Personally I like the safety...just like I like it on my 1911. If the Shield had a trigger like the SDVE pistols, then I wouldn't want a safety, but on my Shield I do.
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01-09-2018, 07:36 PM
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Slide safety?
The safety on my Shield seems too small and stiff to go "on" or "off" inadvertently and it's never happened to me. Variance in manufacture may mean that somewhere out there there are Shields with loose safeties, but I don't have experience with them.
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01-09-2018, 07:51 PM
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I suppose anything is possible, even if remotely. I have not and will never carry my Shields in my pocket, but I have been carrying Shields now since 2013 almost every day all day long and part of the night in various IWB holsters. I have never found my safety in the "on" position. All the safeties on my Shields are very stiff and positive and require an intentional effort to move either on or off.
As an aside, I do not use the manual safety, and would have purchased those of mine that have the safety only because there was not a choice at the time I bought them. In the beginning, I regularly checked to see if the safety had inadertently been activated during the day. I have never found the safeties moved from their off position. No guarantee that they may not be. Just my experience for what it's worth.
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If a gun has a safety you need to use it, just so your draw routine includes sweeping it off. I bought a early Shield before non-safety models were available, and didn't use the safety because none of my other M&P's had a safety. One day in IPDA-style shooting it somehow got ON -- and it was quite a shock when I squeezed the trigger and nothing happened. Good thing it was training. . . I quickly fabricated a metal filler to disable the safety until I could purchase a non-safety Shield. For a little more ND assurance I use the Apex triggers with the center blade, rather than the stock trigger which could be operated by friction against the side surface of the trigger.
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Carried a Shield .40 for 2 yrs and currently carrying a Shield .45 for the last 8 or so months.
Both have the thumb safety, and as of yet have never had an issue, and don't expect I will.
I leave it on and flick it off when drawing. Been training that way and feel comfortable with it.
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Have had my shield for 2 years now. My safety has never been where i have not left it. At home i keep safety on, as soon as i walk out the door, safety off. I am religious about checking whenever i leave or enter my home so it has actually become second nature.
I am sure it is by design but it is easier to take the safety off then putting it on. If there was to be an accident i think it would be taking the safety off accidently but i do not see that happening if you are handling your firearm correctly.
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My Shield has been my EDC since May 2012 (when NTS wasn't even an option) and always keep the safety in the Off position.
My thumb safety has Never inadvertently engaged itself.
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01-11-2018, 12:08 PM
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Maybe there's better ways to do it, but last time at the range I was doing 2 round drills drawing from the holster with the safety engaged. Draw, disengage, double tap, rengage and reholster. For my shield I use a tuckable IWB which sits a bit deeper than my normal EDC and holster. Just make sure the range allows it or is empty enough to do the drills. I must have done this 15-20 times last time out.
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Quote:
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My question is "has anyone had their Shield’s slide safety engaging by accident?" .
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No....
4 Shields. Always train with the safeties. Thousands of rounds.
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01-11-2018, 08:28 PM
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No. The safety on both of mine has never engaged or disengaged while carrying them. The safety stays where you want it.
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No, not once, ever.
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I have been CCW'ing a Shield 9-40 and 45....all with a thumb safety engaged for a couple years now. Never had it disengage no matter how it was carried. IWB, shoulder holster or OWB....
It is good to go.
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Been carrying my Shield for 4 years. I have about 2200 rounds through it. Never had the safety move unless I moved it. I carry with the safety on and practice draw often, so flipping the safety off during the draw has become automatic
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01-12-2018, 09:43 AM
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Not even a consideration. The safety stays put.
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Nope, I put my safety off 3 years ago and it hasn't been on since. If the no safety had been available when I bought my Shield I would have opted for that.
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Never has my safety accidentally engaged or disengaged.
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Never use the safety on my Shield 9 and my 45 does not have one... looks like most Shields don’t have a safety now and no Glock has a thumb safety. Just not a problem.
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My Shield 45 is very new and very "tight". It's very hard to engage the safety so I don't expect it will happen accidently. I am a fan of the safety 'cus I spent many early years owning/shooting 1911's and the sweep motion is fairly normal for me. As someone said in this thread - if your gun has it, use it, train with it, and you will never be surprised by it.
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As others have mentioned, it is not a problem. I have carried the Shield for several years and the safety never has accidentally engaged.
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I do recall one or two members report (a few yrs back), that their thumb safety did engage/disengage (I don't recall which) on its own, but when asked for details, it turned out that it was due to a poorly fitting holster (rubbed at the thumb safety ?).
It seemed that when the wearer twisted a certain way, the holster rubbed the safety enough to switch it. After either adjusting the fit, or changing holsters, the 'problem' went away.
imagine that!
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