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Old 03-08-2018, 11:54 AM
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LOL, to the OP:

The gun you called "junk" just scored a FULL FIVE STAR review on TTAG. I don't think I've ever seen another gun get a score like that over there:

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P380 Shield EZ - The Truth About Guns

Congrats to Smith & Wesson; you made another winner!
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LOL to anyone who believes anything on the TTAG!

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The gun you called "junk" just scored a FULL FIVE STAR review on TTAG. I don't think I've ever seen another gun get a score like that over there:

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P380 Shield EZ - The Truth About Guns

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Bought a 380 EZ for my wife and she loves it. I know 4 people that bought 1 after seeing hers. I think S&W came up with a great idea and will sell a lot of them.
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Still fail to understand the hate on this little pistol.
I borrowed one for work, had not intended to keep it.
After working with it, it's not going back.

S&W IS selling a lot of 'em.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:31 PM
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Exactly what problem do you have with their review of this gun?
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:43 PM
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I own a NTS model of the EZ. Love it! Extremely reliable through 700 rounds of various brass FMJ and JHP ammo.
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Has anyone that is running them down actually handled and shot one?
That should stop anyone?
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:13 PM
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:39 AM
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OP sounds like he’s a little jealous. Apparently he’s never owned one. Poor guy New Shield 380 EZ... Nope. Junk.

My local shops can’t keep them in stock they’re selling so well.


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Why!? This is the gun NOBODY asked for. Especially with a grip safety. Sorry, but nope. Keep ot.
How dare you come to the S&W Forum and post such a negative and incendiary honest personal opinion about the new 380EZ? We here all know that everyone must love everything that S&W designs and markets, if for no other reason than it's a SMITH & WESSON!!!

And, how dare you criticize the absolute genius of S&W's factory engineering and product development teams for adding grip safeties, thumb safeties, trigger safeties, sear disconnect levers, engraved warnings, hi-visibility followers and other moron-proofing to their newest offerings so that dummies who should never even be allowed to play with sharp objects but who can buy S&W firearms don't inadvertently harm themselves or others as their meds wear off?

And, how dare you criticize the visionary prowess of S&W's factory marketing team who have just recently discovered that the 380 market for female and geriatric potential gun buyers is a marketing opportunity for S&W to jump into by bringing out their new 380EZ even though every other gun maker on the planet has addressed this market for the past 7 or so years?

You just don't appreciate the genius, effort and commitment to innovation that it takes for S&W to take a big, old, heavy, cumbersome frame design and to modify it slightly to accept the least effective but popular centerfire cartridge for personal defense and then, to dress it up with a host of idiot levers and funky features to appeal to a group of potential buyers who lack the hand strength to turn the valve on their oxygen tanks or to press their dentures into a gooey bed of Polident but, according to S&W's factory marketing geniuses, think these geezers want to play Dirty Harry from their adjustomatic hospital beds!

Oh, it's also blatantly obvious that you fail to appreciate how many women there are with such weak hands, fingers and arms that they can't possibly operate semiautomatic pistols made for us real men and, therefore, must be lumped together by S&W's marketing gurus with the drooling, limping, wheezing, trembling geriatric gunslingers who hunger for 380 firepower so they can blast evildoers to smithereens as they take cover behind their bedpans!

Yes, sir! We, here in the S&W Forum, all well know that women are weak and barely qualified to hold or operate a real man's firearm and that they must be directed by us real men to joyously appreciate the availability of the new 380EZ if they want to defend themselves against the threats that confront them in their everyday lives when their are no men around to protect them! Uh-huh!

And, to prove that I am absolutely right about your complete failure to recognize the unquestionable superiority of the new S&W 380EZ, factory recall aside, just look at the 200+ responses to your flaming thread which clearly put you in your place for daring to impugn the new S&W 380EZ.

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Old 07-11-2018, 10:22 AM
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I've done some more reading on this version and while it's not for me, I can see the market that S&W is looking at.

There are people who want to own and carry for self defense. They are not "gunnies", so they don't care about metal versus plastic, old S&W versus new S&W, and you're not likely to run into them at a gun show.

They want a soft shooting gun with an easy to cycle slide that they can carry for self defense.

Or maybe the buyer is a "gun guy", but his wife isn't and only wants a gun to carry for self defense.

They don't want to pay over a thousand dollars for a 1911 that will scare them every time it goes bang.

We might laugh at those guns and their owners, but S&W (as well as other companies) aren't. It's a market with a lot of potential.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 9mm version at some time in the near future.

Remember, every one who buys one of these is now going to be a 2A supporter. If I were S&W, instead of rebates or extra magazines, I'd give a 1 year NRA membership away with each one of these purchased.
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There is an old saying that you just can't make all the people happy all the time! If fact, you would be lucky to make some of the people happy some of the time.

If any one does not like this gun then simply don't buy it! I am sure S&W will sell a ton of them and get extended life out of the tooling assembly line for the Shield producing it when they release the next great Poly Wonder gun!

A fool and his money are soon parted!!!!! Frog Lube was the funniest thing I ever saw and I still can't believe morons bought it and are still buying it. BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
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Personally, I am intrigued by the gun. When my arthritis presented a real problem racking my pistol I bought. Remington 380. I chose it because it was low recoil, easy to rack, and it had a 2.9 inch barrel. With velocity and energy influenced by barrel length the RM380 had an advantage over other subcompact pistols.

This new M&P 380 has a barrel juts a tad under 4 inches. That might put it in a class that has enough barrel length to actually generate enough velocity to make a HP mushroom unlike subcompact 380s.
I will be interested in how it tests out in reviews of the gun and it’s ballistics.

Re the grip safety, it would not bother me for a second. Once I reached senior staff no I carried a 1911 with all its safety features. None of the were a problem. Fact is that I would have done away with the thumb safety and just had the grip safety with the half cock safety.

However, after rehab, I can now work with my 9mm without problems, so a 380 is not in the cards for me.
PSSSST!,,,, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but .380 is a 9 mm! The 9x17, short, Corto, Kurz round is just 100 feet per second slower than the 9x18 Luger round and about 15 grains lighter. In fact 38, 38 Special, 357 Magnum, 9x17, 9x19 ,9x25 and 38 super all make the same size hole of .355 of an inch!

Which one of these would you prefer being struck with? Oh, and the .38 special only went at 850 fps and was the standard for many police departments for many many years!
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:18 AM
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There is an old saying that you just can't make all the people happy all the time! If fact, you would be lucky to make some of the people happy some of the time.

If any one does not like this gun then simply don't buy it! I am sure S&W will sell a ton of them and get extended life out of the tooling assembly line for the Shield producing it when they release the next great Poly Wonder gun!

A fool and his money are soon parted!!!!! Frog Lube was the funniest thing I ever saw and I still can't believe morons bought it and are still buying it. BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
What's the deal with Frog Lube? Not that I use it - just curious.
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What's the deal with Frog Lube? Not that I use it - just curious.


I’ve heard that Frog Lube is merely scented coconut oil.


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I heard it tastes like chicken....
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:57 PM
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How do you get oil out a frog anyway? Fools and their money are soon parted!
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I've done some more reading on this version and while it's not for me, I can see the market that S&W is looking at.

There are people who want to own and carry for self defense. They are not "gunnies", so they don't care about metal versus plastic, old S&W versus new S&W, and you're not likely to run into them at a gun show.

They want a soft shooting gun with an easy to cycle slide that they can carry for self defense.

Or maybe the buyer is a "gun guy", but his wife isn't and only wants a gun to carry for self defense.

They don't want to pay over a thousand dollars for a 1911 that will scare them every time it goes bang.

We might laugh at those guns and their owners, but S&W (as well as other companies) aren't. It's a market with a lot of potential.
^^^ This. Not everybody wants a Dodge Hellcat that will melt the rear tyres at the twitch of a toe. Many are happy to get groceries in a Toyota Corolla.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:32 PM
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Sometimes the future isn't easy to look to.

The Shield EZ isn't my favorite dish -- right now. But, at 70 years old, the future is easier for me to see.

I have arthritis in both thumbs, and my left (shooting) shoulder. On most days, I'm able to handle all my favorite guns. But, I know the day is coming when I'll be very glad to have a light recoil, easy racking pistol like the Shield EZ.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:39 PM
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I took my wife and my 86 year old father in law to look at them. He bought one on the spot. Much easier for him to manipulate than other guns. My wife liked it also. I had to put hers on order because he got the last one. They sell them quick is what the salesman told me. Both guns are the non-thumb safety version. That gun definitely fills a need.
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I have been wanting a 380...
My wife sold her 38 snubby and got this 380. Loves it more than her 38 spl. Shoots great. If you wonder about a 380 for SD purposes then try the Underwood 380 (65 gr) with that Lehigh solid copper fluted bullet in +P. Excellent penetration and PWC
better than normal 380 HP's.
+P is not recommended for this pistol but I fired fifty rounds of that ammo and it handled it fine. So, okay for carrying but I would't practice with any +P in it.
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Don't kid yourselves - there is a HUGE market for this gun.

Double Safe
Easy to operate
Low recoil
4.5# trigger
Browning type locking barrel, long enuf to improve lethality
Cocking Wings
Decent size for a .380

All of it's EZ features, EZ to rack, EZ to load mags, low EZ recoil, EZ to hold, EZ to shoot, a real boon to anyone who needs this type of gun. On top of all that, it's a semi! And, it's a Smith & Wesson!

Two opinions I really respect, are Hickok45, and Sootch - both have nothing but praise for this gun!

MHO

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Don't kid yourselves - there is a HUGE market for this gun.

Double Safe
Easy to operate
Low recoil
4.5# trigger
Browning type locking barrel, long enuf to improve lethality
Cocking Wings
Decent size for a .380

All of it's EZ features, EZ to rack, EZ to load mags, low EZ recoil, EZ to hold, EZ to shoot, a real boon to anyone who needs this type of gun. On top of all that, it's a semi! And, it's a Smith & Wesson!

Two opinions I really respect, are Hickok45, and Sootch - both have nothing but praise for this gun!

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Even at more than twice the price I think I'd still go for a Beretta Cheetah.
I had one of those,now your talking real junk! Mine spent more time in the mail going back and forth getting repaired
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Awesome pistols. A grip safety is the best safety of all. No thinking, just hold the gun to shoot and it is off safety. Put the gun down and it's back on safety.

I did not, "Get it" at first, but I now think these are truly well thought out pistols. They did their home work on these and they are selling very well.

I guess they are just not macho enough for some. Who cares............
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:29 AM
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How do you get oil out a frog anyway? Fools and their money are soon parted!
I guess I'm one of those fools. I have used it exclusively for several years and other than overpaying (if it is just coconut oil), it saves me time in cleaning. Granted it takes a little time the first use, but after that it's a breeze. No rust, no corrosion, no problems on anything I own from using it. I live in the south so I don't know about the sub-zero problems some claim to have. And it smells so good I am no longer banished to outdoor cleaning like I was with Ballistol and some others. Anyway, to each his own.
As far as the ez 380 goes, if I can find one to rent I may get one for my wife if she can shoot it well.
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Nice troll post OP! Right out of the old liberal playbook- if you don’t like it, it must be bad. Hmm, do you work for the Brady campaign?


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It ain't fun to get old ----- lol, that beast is rearing it's ugly head more than I wish to admit!
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I've always failed to understand why a product HAS to be junk just because an individual happens to dislike it. If you're not at an age where arthritis has come in to your life consider yourself blessed. Between issues of weight of handguns, recoil and ability to run a hard to rack semi-auto I was elated that S&W came out with the EZ 380. I had already been forced to sell my Bodyguard 380 and go with a LCP IIdue to issues racking the slide. Now I have 2 easy to rack 380's one of which I carry in hot weather with minimal clothing and now a higher capacity pistol with a longer barrel contributing to greater accuracy. My 9mm Sheild has become increasingly difficult to rack over the past 3 months. I hope S&W comes out with a 9mm EZ Shield. Take my money please! A side note on the EZ 380. I wish you all could have seen the look on her face when she racked the slide on mine. She has since sold her Bodyguard 380 and her SP 101 and is the happy owner of her very own EZ. Her first time shooting it she shot better than she ever did with the Bodyguard or the Ruger. Age and all it's accompanying issues sneaks up slowly. Don't be so quick to condemn because someday you too will be dealing with those issues.
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Ya know.......although it can be referred to as a geriatric gun and I ain't there yet the more I think about it the more I see the sense in it. First off there is no reason why one would disparage any company for putting another product on the shelf. Maybe one day when I get old and feeble this might very well be the gun I keep under my leg blanket-for now it doesn't fit in my lineup. BUT what I DO like is the little wings to assist in slide racking as well as the little button on the mag to allow for easier loading. Why every magazine doesn't have one of these is a mystery to me. I also like the internal hammer over the striker and LIKE safeties on my guns. If the grip safety offends you, I would suggest holding it closed while the bead of JB weld around it to seal it shut cures (use the quick cure it sets in about 6 minutes). Touch up and smooth the bead with a dremel and you will have eliminated the chance of failure with a seamless grip..
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I have an EZ. I no longer even pay attention to the fact there’s a grip safety. I have never, even when first beginning to break it in, had a ftf due to not properly gripping the gun. (No ftf for any other reasons either)
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I think the OP was trolling us. Mission accomplished! New Shield 380 EZ... Nope. Junk.


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.... I hope S&W comes out with a 9mm EZ Shield. ....
Yes! I'm waiting for the 9mm version. Please!
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I carry a M01 Shield, I just don't see the M02 offering enough to trade up.

But, I've often said I hope S&W incorporates some of the EZ's features into the Version 3.0 Shield. I'll be on that like Ugly on an Ape.
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Just because you don't want something does not mean that other people don't want it.

Beretta's Cheetah models are selling for $700-$800, indicating that someone wants mid-size .380 pistols.
Yeah, but the Beretta Cheetah is beautiful. It's elegant, the slides are glassy smooth, and the triggers are good.

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Seems simple enough to me.....if you don't want one don't buy one
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This would be the same reason I'm interested in the gun. My wife has no hand strength and now we have a M & P 22C in the house for her. She can rack the slide and shoots it quite well, but I've yet to find a gun in higher calibers that she can rack. She also has to use a Hilljack quickie loader to load the magazines. This could be the answer. And it would make me happy that she had something other then rimfire for protection.
My wife had tried several of the more popular small semi-autos in
9mm. Actually bought one and now it's mine. (And I like it)
She accepted the 38 stubby. As soon as the 380 EZ came out__she has it and my gunsmith has her 38.
"No +P" Well not for practice but it's loaded with Underwood 380 ACP +P 65 gr Xtreme Defenders__And at 1400 fps and with that Lehigh bullet? Five into mass___i think it'll work. Also, handles that ammo flawlessly.
It may be an ideal pistol for your wife. Properly loaded it may now be beyond border line SD.
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I didn't like the look of this gun at all when I first saw it. Then I handled one at the nearest gun shop and immediately traded in my S&W Shield 9mm for it. I love the way it fits my hand, the ease of racking the slide and loading the magazines, the trigger pull--in short, I love everything about it except the fact that it's a .380 ACP and not a 9mm. However, it was extremely difficult for me to lock back the slide on on the Shield 9mm and the recoil on it made follow-up shots slower. I don't even give the grip safety on the .380 a second thought and I've never gripped the gun in a way that didn't depress it completely and the thumb safety is just a matter of practice. For home defense I have a S&W M&P 9mm Compact (and a shotgun). The slide on the Compact is easier to rack than the one on the Shield 9mm and it, too, has a thumb safety for commonality with the .380. The only downside to the 9MM C compared to the .380 is that the magazine is harder to load, but that's why I have an UpLULA magazine loader. I will admit that my .380 is a little big for pocket carry, so I'm looking at one of the smaller .380s or a Ruger LCR in .38 Spl for that role.
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I've done some more reading on this version and while it's not for me, I can see the market that S&W is looking at.

There are people who want to own and carry for self defense. They are not "gunnies", so they don't care about metal versus plastic, old S&W versus new S&W, and you're not likely to run into them at a gun show.

They want a soft shooting gun with an easy to cycle slide that they can carry for self defense.

Or maybe the buyer is a "gun guy", but his wife isn't and only wants a gun to carry for self defense.

They don't want to pay over a thousand dollars for a 1911 that will scare them every time it goes bang.

We might laugh at those guns and their owners, but S&W (as well as other companies) aren't. It's a market with a lot of potential.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 9mm version at some time in the near future.

Remember, every one who buys one of these is now going to be a 2A supporter. If I were S&W, instead of rebates or extra magazines, I'd give a 1 year NRA membership away with each one of these purchased.

I think that is a much better way to think about it/this.

I learned a long time ago (I think about 3rd grade) that just because I like, or have use for something, doesn't mean everyone does.

Or that if I don't like something, doesn't mean everyone doesn't like, or have use for it.

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I didn't like the look of this gun at all when I first saw it. Then I handled one at the nearest gun shop and immediately traded in my S&W Shield 9mm for it. I love the way it fits my hand, the ease of racking the slide and loading the magazines, the trigger pull--in short, I love everything about it except the fact that it's a .380 ACP and not a 9mm. However, it was extremely difficult for me to lock back the slide on on the Shield 9mm and the recoil on it made follow-up shots slower. I don't even give the grip safety on the .380 a second thought and I've never gripped the gun in a way that didn't depress it completely and the thumb safety is just a matter of practice. For home defense I have a S&W M&P 9mm Compact (and a shotgun). The slide on the Compact is easier to rack than the one on the Shield 9mm and it, too, has a thumb safety for commonality with the .380. The only downside to the 9MM C compared to the .380 is that the magazine is harder to load, but that's why I have an UpLULA magazine loader. I will admit that my .380 is a little big for pocket carry, so I'm looking at one of the smaller .380s or a Ruger LCR in .38 Spl for that role.
My $.02 worth--YMMV....

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Woops, one thing I forgot in the original post: the salesman at the gun shop said that the .380 EZ is now their best-selling gun. Must have something going for it.....
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Marketing. I'll ask this IF THE FOLKS HERE WERE "THE MARKET" FOR HANDGUNDS WOULD GLOCK BE ANYTHING BUT THE NOISE YOU HEARD WHEN A BIG PIECE OF POO DROPPED IN THE BOWL?

ok Glock isn't that bad. I have one, only one though. No intent to ever buy another one. It's a pretty safe bet I'll buy another S&W but I won't kid myself into thinking S&Ws marketing department is worried about whether I'll buy another plastic gun.
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Marketing. I'll ask this IF THE FOLKS HERE WERE "THE MARKET" FOR HANDGUNDS WOULD GLOCK BE ANYTHING BUT THE NOISE YOU HEARD WHEN A BIG PIECE OF POO DROPPED IN THE BOWL?

ok Glock isn't that bad. I have one, only one though. No intent to ever buy another one. It's a pretty safe bet I'll buy another S&W but I won't kid myself into thinking S&Ws marketing department is worried about whether I'll buy another plastic gun.
Yeah, but marketing will only take a product so far. If it proves to be "junk" when it gets to the users, you'll find out pretty quickly because it will be out on a blog or forum or some other social medium.
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Marketing. I'll ask this IF THE FOLKS HERE WERE "THE MARKET" FOR HANDGUNDS WOULD GLOCK BE ANYTHING BUT THE NOISE YOU HEARD WHEN A BIG PIECE OF POO DROPPED IN THE BOWL?

ok Glock isn't that bad. I have one, only one though. No intent to ever buy another one. It's a pretty safe bet I'll buy another S&W but I won't kid myself into thinking S&Ws marketing department is worried about whether I'll buy another plastic gun.
Yeah, but marketing will only take a product so far. If it proves to be "junk" when it gets to the users, you'll find out pretty quickly because it will be out on a blog or forum or some other social medium.
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Woops, one thing I forgot in the original post: the salesman at the gun shop said that the .380 EZ is now their best-selling gun. Must have something going for it.....
This line of thinking is just wrong. Just because people buy it doesn't mean it's good or even works. It only means people buy it. I'll bet the vast majority of those who have bought the .380 EZ havn't fired more than 20 rounds through their gun.

Of those that have fired their guns, how many had problems and just attributed it to ammo or a mag? Also, how many had some issue and didn't think it was a big deal and are still happy with the gun?
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This line of thinking is just wrong. Just because people buy it doesn't mean it's good or even works. It only means people buy it. I'll bet the vast majority of those who have bought the .380 EZ havn't fired more than 20 rounds through their gun.

Of those that have fired their guns, how many had problems and just attributed it to ammo or a mag? Also, how many had some issue and didn't think it was a big deal and are still happy with the gun?
Rastoff,

OK, you'll bet that the "vast majority haven't fired more than 20 rounds" through their EZs and I'll bet that the "vast majority" has fired many more than 20 rounds. Which of us is right? Who knows? But, I've had mine about three months and I've fired several hundred rounds through it--with absolutely no problems and very good "defense" accuracy. And, browsing several different gun forums, I've found many more people who've had no or few problems than people who've had many problems. What does all this prove? Not much probably.
For those who want or need a gun that is easy to use and are wiling to give up some power (which means quicker recovery between shots), and some concealability, it's a good choice.

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OK, you'll bet that the "vast majority haven't fired more than 20 rounds" through their EZs and I'll bet that the "vast majority" has fired many more than 20 rounds.
I'll take that bet. What are the stakes? How many more than 20 will they have to have fired to satisfy the term "many" more? If they've fired 25 does that satisfy what you're saying? If they've fired 100 am I still in the ball park about my point?
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