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Old 03-22-2018, 12:46 PM
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I'm in the market for a 9mm 2.0 Compact and I'm considering getting a Dryfire Mag (http://www.dryfiremag.com/product/dr...smithwesson-mp). I realize they don't actually reset the trigger and was just curious if they really feel like a real trigger pull or not. (They also won't work if you change out sears like a full Apex trigger job would do). So if you have one, please chime in with your thoughts on them.

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Old 03-23-2018, 07:28 AM
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Never tried one. I just do it, I guess, the old fashion way. Plus, I save $100.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:25 AM
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Wow - you can buy a lot of snap caps and cycle the slide a bit for that price!
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:36 AM
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Seems a bit expensive for what it is. I think the Laserlyte training round is more practical and gives better feed back and costs $20 less. Even if you have to partially cycle the slide after each trigger pull, you get your actual trigger pull rather than what the Dryfire mag simulates.

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Old 03-23-2018, 11:37 AM
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If you reload....

I make my own snap caps by reloading empty casings, putting in a JHP bullet and using silicone in the primer holes then paining the casings red with nail polish or a sharpie for ID purposes.

Cheap and easy to replace
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Old 03-23-2018, 01:13 PM
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No, I have not tried one of those. I would like to see how it works, but I'm skeptical that it adds any real value.

No need for snap caps.
No need for dummy rounds (those can actually be dangerous).
No need for any gadget.

Just do your dry practice safely and your groups will shrink. I guarantee it.
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:17 PM
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Dry fire practice is important, but this $99 seems like an unecessary expense for fake repeat trigger pulls that preclude other practice manipulations.
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Here is the reason I'm considering it..... I don't like the idea of having to rack the gun after each trigger pull. I really don't like the idea of short stroking the slide after each trigger pull because is reinforcing bad technique......
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If you do throw down for one please give us a review.
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Here is the reason I'm considering it..... I don't like the idea of having to rack the gun after each trigger pull. I really don't like the idea of short stroking the slide after each trigger pull because is reinforcing bad technique......
I don't think your logic is bad, but why are you short stroking it? Rack that slide like you mean it. You won't hurt the gun.
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Here is the reason I'm considering it..... I don't like the idea of having to rack the gun after each trigger pull. I really don't like the idea of short stroking the slide after each trigger pull because is reinforcing bad technique......
I'm with Rastoff. Why would you even do this? Rack that slide just like you were loading it or clearing a malfunction.
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For modern non-rimfire autos, no snap caps are necessary since you can dry-fire the heck out of them with no damage.
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Here is the reason I'm considering it..... I don't like the idea of having to rack the gun after each trigger pull. I really don't like the idea of short stroking the slide after each trigger pull because is reinforcing bad technique......
I don't particularly like having to rack the slide repeatedly either, but I would like paying around $100 for accessory like that even less.
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I'm with Rastoff. Why would you even do this? Rack that slide just like you were loading it or clearing a malfunction.
I was simply replying to comments made previously in this thread where several people seemed to imply it one can reset the trigger with very little slide movement. Obviously this is true, but it's not a habit I would want to create for myself due to the obvious real life implications of short stroking the rack when it really counted.
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Yes, the sear can be reset with just a short movement of the slide, but there's no need. Leave the mag out and just rack that thing like you mean it. No compromise of muscle memory and no need for an expensive gimmik.
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You know guys, the problem about practicing something at home, let's say racking the slide repeatedly after every trigger pull. Sure its good for feeling your trigger and gun, but muscle memory can come back to hurt you when under surprised stress.

If you were caught off guard, and needed to unload the mag quickly into someone, and you've dry fired practiced with a slide rack after every shot, you could very well do it when surprised and confronted by a perp.

What we practice, we will do.

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Just a follow up. I did get the pistol and after playing with it some, I've decided not to get the dryfire mag right now. Using the supplied chamber plug to keep the slide about 1/4" out of battery, I can get a trigger that has resistance and an audible click and is repeatable without resetting the trigger. It's obviously not a real trigger pull, but it will do for dry fire practicing.
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Just a follow up. I did get the pistol and after playing with it some, I've decided not to get the dryfire mag right now. Using the supplied chamber plug to keep the slide about 1/4" out of battery, I can get a trigger that has resistance and an audible click and is repeatable without resetting the trigger. It's obviously not a real trigger pull, but it will do for dry fire practicing.
If it's NOT a real trigger pull, either, does your other concern about muscle memory also come into play?

i think you've "over-thought" the process.

I'd argue that short-stroking the slide is NOT going to be a muscle-memory issue because racking the slide is not something you typically do all that often when regularly shooting or competing. Examples:
  • You rack the slide most often when chambering a first round, and that is a fundamentally different routine which generally includes inserting a magazine; in some cases the slide may already be locked back.
  • The way you handle the slide after it's locked back and you've inserted a new mag is different, too, but you'll either use the slide release OR move the slide back just enough to release it. Short-cycling it isn't likely to be an issue.
  • Finally, if you're doing a clearance drill, that also requires a different process/series of steps (i.e., tap, rack, bang).
None of these steps are likely to be affected by repeatedly short-stroking the slide.
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