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M&P .45 for Carry: Shield 2.0 or Compact or ???
I'd like to upgrade one of my carry guns to a .45. Thinking of a Shield but worry about .45 recoil in a small, light(er) gun.
So I'm wondering if there's a Compact .45 in 2.0? I've got both the Shield and 5" M&P 2.0s in 9mm, really like them, and like the way they shoot for me.
But when I went looking for a .45 2.0 in compact I couldn't find one. Do they make it in that size yet?
I could get a "1.0" and add an Apex, but that's another $100 and I might as well buy a 2.0 if they make them.
Suggestions on a carry .45.....all advice welcome.
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04-09-2018, 08:32 PM
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Go with the Shield 45... many of us have them on this forum and I can tell you for a fact the recoil concern is not valid on this model. I don't know how they did it but S&W virtually tamed the recoil with this system; some say it's even less than the 9mm. They had a few magazine issues last year, but overall it's a gem, and a very accurate gem at that.
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04-09-2018, 10:42 PM
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I agree, the Shield 45 recoil is very manageable. Not as easy to shoot as a 9mm but not at all difficult to shoot.
If you're worried about it, maybe you can find a range that has one to rent before you buy.
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04-10-2018, 01:05 AM
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I agree, the Shield 45 recoil is very manageable. Not as easy to shoot as a 9mm but not at all difficult to shoot.
If you're worried about it, maybe you can find a range that has one to rent before you buy.
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I have a Shield in 9 and 40 and have shot 45 pistols. The way the Shield handles 40, I'm sure it'll shoot the 45 VERY VERY well.
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04-10-2018, 02:37 AM
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The Shield .45 is not a target pistol. One would not take it to the range to send 300 rounds down range plunking paper targets.
It is a powerful and easily concealable defensive protector.
Thus, for its purpose, protection, the the recoil issue for the limited times it would be shot, it would be quite manageable.
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04-10-2018, 03:52 AM
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The Shield .45 is not a target pistol. One would not take it to the range to send 300 rounds down range plunking paper targets.
It is a powerful and easily concealable defensive protector.
Thus, for its purpose, protection, the the recoil issue for the limited times it would be shot, it would be quite manageable.
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I agree, but if you want to do so, the Shield 45 is good enough to treat as a target pistol, though probably not for competition. I shoot mine at the range at paper targets at a rate of 300 rounds per month. It is surprisingly accurate for a short-barrel carry pistol, and as others have noted, its mild recoil makes it fun to shoot. I routinely put 60-70% of my shots into a 4"x4" square at 15 yards, and about 50% into the square at 20 yards. On a really good day, I've put 50% into the square at 25 yards, but my average at that distance is more like 30%. It is enjoyable to shoot, and I've put over 4000 rounds through it in the year since I bought it.
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Okay then. I'm be looking at/for a Shield both at my range and at my LGSs.
So I have a basis for comparison, what's the going rate for them? I like the safety model as it gives me the option to use it or not. Anyone have a favorite or recommended online seller?
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04-10-2018, 05:54 AM
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Okay then. I'm be looking at/for a Shield both at my range and at my LGSs.
So I have a basis for comparison, what's the going rate for them? I like the safety model as it gives me the option to use it or not. Anyone have a favorite or recommended online seller?
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04-10-2018, 06:39 AM
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swsig, what you say does make sense and I respect your comments.
My thinking is that a small size high caliber pistol is a defensive weapon and shot only so many times for training purposes. I have found shooting as many rounds in a single session with such a pistol much more both fatiguing and painful than with a larger size pistol.
Shooting a full size pistol or revolver with its heavier weight, longer barrel and greater sight radius produces less recoil and can be fun to shoot many more rounds in a range session without the pain of repeated recoil.
If the op does purchase a Shield 45, I have no doubt that he will find it to be an excellent choice.
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04-10-2018, 08:24 AM
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Love my Shield 45, highly recommend. As noted, it is a short barreled polymer firearm. Choice of ammunition will make a world of difference.
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What about a M&P Compact 1.0 in 45? I have this one and used to own the shield 45. The Compact is very comfortable and more range friendly . The shield 45 is more manageable than the Shied 40 but still not a "shoot it all day gun" IMHO. The 45 Compact is both.
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Have both Shield 45 and Shield 9 2.0.
EDC the 45 for over a year. Recoil really fairly tame due to the
recoil spring and rod system S&W put in it.....I was surprised when I first shot it myself....
Have since assigned the 45 to bedroom duty as I was able to
carry 10 rounds in the Shield 9.
You will find the 45 to be a nice and accurate shooter if you decide to go that way......
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What about a M&P Compact 1.0 in 45? I have this one and used to own the shield 45. The Compact is very comfortable and more range friendly . The shield 45 is more manageable than the Shied 40 but still not a "shoot it all day gun" IMHO. The 45 Compact is both.
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I own both a 45c and a Shield 45.
Though I can carry the 45c concealed (it's not much bigger than a Glock 19), the Shield is a LOT easier to carry.
I was actually surprised at how close the two are in felt recoil/muzzle flip.
And, the 45c only holds two more rounds with the standard magazines.
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Shield 45 has been my EDC for over a year now. In my opinion and as noted by others, recoil is a non issue with the Shield 45.
I also have the M&P 45 2.0 and love it, but for EDC the Shield 45 is hard to beat.
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swsig, what you say does make sense and I respect your comments.
My thinking is that a small size high caliber pistol is a defensive weapon and shot only so many times for training purposes. I have found shooting as many rounds in a single session with such a pistol much more both fatiguing and painful than with a larger size pistol....
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I think everyone is slightly different in their reactions to a given gun. I rented a Shield 45 before I bought one, and it was so much better than what I expected (no problems with the rough textured grip, way less recoil than anticipated, amazingly accurate), that it benefited greatly due to the contrast effect. I subsequently bought one and liked shooting it so much, that I shoot it as often as my SIG P320 357 SIG and my FNX-45 Tactical range guns.
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Oh great, you guys have done it now. This thread makes me want to get back to the range and punch some more big holes with my Shield 45.
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Okay then. I'm be looking at/for a Shield both at my range and at my LGSs.
So I have a basis for comparison, what's the going rate for them? I like the safety model as it gives me the option to use it or not. Anyone have a favorite or recommended online seller?
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A lot of us got them for a steal last summer, they had a rebate going and I only paid $258 after rebate as I recall, from Palmetto State Armory online.
A couple of other online retailers I have had good deals from over the years would be Grab-a-Gun and Prepper Gun Shop.
Happy hunting!
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Many thanks to all. Decided to go with 2.0 as I have 3 others: Shield in 9mm, .380 EZ, and 5".
Ordered 2.0 Shield with safety this afternoon....price is $400. Should have it by the end of the week.
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$400 out the door is about right for now. I got mine last summer for $264 after rebate. So not as good as FloridaS&W but close. Palmetto charges sales tax in Georgia so I used Grab-A-Gun.
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Same here. Two totally different animals. Double stacked mag vs. single stack makes a lot of difference for concealed carry. Not saying I'll ever give up my M&P45Cs or FS, but the Shield 45 is in a category to itself.
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I own both a 45c and a Shield 45.
Though I can carry the 45c concealed (it's not much bigger than a Glock 19), the Shield is a LOT easier to carry.
I was actually surprised at how close the two are in felt recoil/muzzle flip.
And, the 45c only holds two more rounds with the standard magazines.
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I CAN carry a full size double stack and did so when it was my only pistol, but now i CHOOSE to carry a Shield because it is SO MUCH more comfortable IWB and lighter. And I can tell you that the 45 Shield is very close to the dimensions and weight of the 9/40 but I can tell the difference iwb, so no way do I want to go back to a double stack.
The Shield 45 is a sweet shooter and is the only gun I shoot at the range because I want to shoot what I carry (makes sense to me). I don’t mess around, I shoot 100-200 rounds to stay proficient and leave. I am no more fatigued after 200 rounds out of the Shield than a FS 9mm.
8 rounds with a 7 round mag in reserve is plenty for CCW. You won’t be disappointed with the Shield. I’ve had all three calibers over the last 3-4 years and never had a single problem.
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