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Old 05-20-2018, 11:24 AM
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The M&P line is loaded with aftermarket accessories and upgrades. Why no after-market safety for the Shield. All of my semi auto's have manual safeties. Flicking them off is automatic, but the Shield's safety is so flush. I can get it off easily enough, but would like a bit of a shelf on it to get a better hold. My Ruger LC9-S safety comes out a hair to get that positive connection.

Same for Bodyguard. Why so flush?
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:33 AM
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It’s perfect the way it is, easy to disengage and not so easy to engage.
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I agree with SATX that I like it just as it is.
There are a few threads here about aftermarket extended thumb safeties. A forum search should turn them up.

Of course... Sooner or later, some of those posters will chime in.
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I am a lefty and never use it. IMO it is unnecessary on this firearm.
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Isn't the lever much larger on the 2.0?
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Old 05-20-2018, 12:46 PM
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Isn't the lever much larger on the 2.0?
I guess it's only the EZ that comes with the larger lever.
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The REAL reason?

Not enough demand for anyone to do design, manufacturing, inventory and marketing on such a part. It would have to cost so much no one would buy it.

But if you feel it needs to be extended, DIY.

For $4 buy some 2-part epoxy such as JB Weld. You don’t even have to remove your lever from the gun. Remove the slide, raise the lever and prop it in place. Tape off the rest of the pistol.

Spread a little dab on your lever and let it harden for a day. Sand to your perfect dimension, then add a few longitudinal cuts if you want. It will be perfectly customized for you. Paint it black. It can be removed or redone any time.
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Isn't the lever much larger on the 2.0?
The safety lever is larger than those on the Shield models, but the same size as those on the 1.0 full size and compact models. I wish the safety on the 2.0 models was the same as those on the Shield models.
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I wish they would be like some others, and not offer a thumb safety. It's completely unnecessary.



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I wish they would be like some others, and not offer a thumb safety. It's completely unnecessary.
There are people who do like them...like me, for one. They make models with and without, so a buyer can choose. If you don't want one with a safety, don't buy one. Why try to mandate your opinion on other buyers?
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:35 PM
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Because nobody uses them and it would not be a good business move to invest in something that nobody wants...
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:14 PM
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Because nobody uses them and it would not be a good business move to invest in something that nobody wants...
There are many buyers like myself who desire to have the manual safety for a variety of reasons. As you said, it would not be a good business decision to produce something that there was no demand for. Obviously, the demand is there otherwise, the option would be discontinued. Be grateful to have choices because it allows you to have things the way that you want them.
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Some police departments require them.
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I like the safety for one reason and that’s if I have to unholster to leave my gun in the car while I go into someplace I can’t take my gun, the safety is engaged. Otherwise, it remains off. It’s so small and positive, you can’t accidentally engage it.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:23 PM
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The OP is after an improved, aftermarket safety that is a little bigger. I don’t think he meant to start another thread about opinions on safeties on Shields.

It’s his gun. He should get it to operate the way he wants. I have no problem with that. I hate safeties. :-)
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I love the safety on my Shield 45; it's darn near perfect, and much better than the paddle style on my midsize M&P. The only thing they should have done on the Shield was make it ambi-swappable like my mid-size..
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I love the safety on my Shield 45; it's darn near perfect, and much better than the paddle style on my midsize M&P. The only thing they should have done on the Shield was make it ambi-swappable like my mid-size..
I wish they put the Shield sized safety on the 2.0 and full size M&Ps. I also wish S&W would be more consistent in what they offer: PC versions of the Shield have or don't have the safety available in 9 & 40 compared to the 45. They should offer w AND w/o the safety in ALL calibers of the PC models!

I love my Smiths, but I don't understand how they decide what to offer in a given caliber.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:38 AM
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I wish they put the Shield sized safety on the 2.0 and full size M&Ps. I also wish S&W would be more consistent in what they offer: PC versions of the Shield have or don't have the safety available in 9 & 40 compared to the 45. They should offer w AND w/o the safety in ALL calibers of the PC models!

I love my Smiths, but I don't understand how they decide what to offer in a given caliber.
I hope they always offer an option for no safety. If they took that away, I would no longer buy their guns. In fact, I know a lot of people who would not buy their guns.

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The OP is after an improved, aftermarket safety that is a little bigger. I don’t think he meant to start another thread about opinions on safeties on Shields.

It’s his gun. He should get it to operate the way he wants. I have no problem with that. I hate safeties. :-)
Exactly. Thank you. I knew I was in for “because it isn’t needed”. What IS needed on a firearm? Does anyone NEED the pistol bayonet that you can buy? Or how about that Zombie ammo? How about all that **** you can hang off an AR? Is the Apex trigger needed? My target is riddled with center mass holes when I fire my Shield, and it’s bone stock.

Or is it that the companies who make all that **** are catering to mall ninja wanna be operators who believe their “safety is between their ears” and “don’t put your booger hook on the bang switch”

The safety is very flush. I can work it fine, but I’ve never used it under stress and more than likely never will. But would like it a bit more pronounced.

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Why no after-market safety for the Shield. Why so flush?
Don’t get poopy, you asked why and received responses to that question. People did respond appropriately, it’s not needed. The Shield has a flush safety because it is a deep concealment sub-compact. Just as some small revolvers have no hammer spur. The less protruding parts on these type of guns is a good thing. And as also mentioned, the market doesn’t justify the expense to make a larger safety for the few that want one. Most people want no safety, not a bigger safety.

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But if you feel it needs to be extended, DIY.

For $4 buy some 2-part epoxy such as JB Weld. You don’t even have to remove your lever from the gun. Remove the slide, raise the lever and prop it in place. Tape off the rest of the pistol.

Spread a little dab on your lever and let it harden for a day. Sand to your perfect dimension, then add a few longitudinal cuts if you want. It will be perfectly customized for you. Paint it black. It can be removed or redone any time.
To the OP: THIS was the answer you should be paying attention to!
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Regardless of whether or not a feature is needed, it ought to be functional. I am unaware of any aftermarket assistance with this part . . .
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Don’t get poopy, you asked why and received responses to that question. People did respond appropriately, it’s not needed. The Shield has a flush safety because it is a deep concealment sub-compact. Just as some small revolvers have no hammer spur. The less protruding parts on these type of guns is a good thing. And as also mentioned, the market doesn’t justify the expense to make a larger safety for the few that want one. Most people want no safety, not a bigger safety.
I’m not poopy. I asked why it wasn’t available and you and others said it isn’t needed. That is an opinion, not a fact. And the “most people don’t want a safety” is purely your opinion, and not even close to facts.

And again, is the pistol bayonet needed? Zombie ammo? Pink grips? Why do people want a heavier NY Glock trigger? If they aren’t needed, why is there a market?

And a spurless hammer prevents snags. A tiny bit wider safety isn’t gonna be an issue with that.

As for the epoxy, I don’t want a homemade fix.

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You are right, this is my opinion. Good luck finding this much desred object. Since it’s in such demand, you shouldn’t have a problem locating several brands to choose from.
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The M&P line is loaded with aftermarket accessories and upgrades. Why no after-market safety for the Shield. All of my semi auto's have manual safeties. Flicking them off is automatic, but the Shield's safety is so flush. I can get it off easily enough, but would like a bit of a shelf on it to get a better hold. My Ruger LC9-S safety comes out a hair to get that positive connection.

Same for Bodyguard. Why so flush?
If so important, why buy it??
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You are right, this is my opinion. Good luck finding this much desred object. Since it’s in such demand, you shouldn’t have a problem locating several brands to choose from.
Im not looking for it. Just figured that since everything from sights, triggers, guide rods, leopard skinned grips, zombie ammo, striker plates with The Punisher logo, pistol bayonets, 3 pound triggers, hundred round drum AR mags, wood furniture for an AR, plastic stocks for M1 Garands, Zombie pizzaman targets, and all the other mall ninja **** was available, then why wouldn’t a slightly easier to use safety on a gun that was specificatlly bought by those who desired a safety be available? Those that think a safety in a Shield is unnecessary were free to buy a model without one. But they didn’t. 95% of aftermarket stuff people on guns is unneeded. Yet the market is saturated with it, with consumers gobbling them up. Or do you think you could outshoot Jerry Miculec with your tricked out M&P against his box stock one?

Silly me. But thanks for your opinion that is totally irrelevant and unfounded. Or did you conduct a poll of the millions of people who own a Shield with a safety and neglected to mention it?It means the world to me. You’ve totally changed my mind.

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