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What if I told you the largest law enforcement agency in the United States of America issues a compact pistol?
It wouldn't change my opinion at all. Large agencies buy tools based on lots of criteria, but in the end, it's money that's the deciding factor. One company could have the most accurate, reliable gun ever made, but if the next on the list is almost as good and 15% less money, they're buying the second one every time.

Now, if you told me that part of their minimum salient characteristics was that the gun shoot a 1" group at 50 yards and they chose the smaller gun, that would make me take notice.
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It wouldn't change my opinion at all. Large agencies buy tools based on lots of criteria, but in the end, it's money that's the deciding factor. One company could have the most accurate, reliable gun ever made, but if the next on the list is almost as good and 15% less money, they're buying the second one every time.

Now, if you told me that part of their minimum salient characteristics was that the gun shoot a 1" group at 50 yards and they chose the smaller gun, that would make me take notice.
Well, I will say this. When HK wins the contract over Glock, that pretty much ensures the whole "lowest bidder" thing is bs.
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:33 AM
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Why a shorter barrel? Ask a fan of snub nosed revolvers!

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For better concealment!
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:13 AM
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It's a lot closer in size to the G26 than I had thought. I like it.

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Old 06-09-2018, 08:32 AM
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A better question is, "3.6" where?"
Currently in stock at Bud's


S&W M&P 2.0 9MM 3.6 15RD BLK NMS $478.00
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:42 AM
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to compete with the g19?
Size-wise it actually competes with the G26 very well (see post #55). It's only ever so slightly larger, yet holds 15 rounds in a magazine versus the G26s 10.
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I like it! Will pick one up in .40. Glad S&W is still offering .40 in new guns.
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:07 AM
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How does this compare to the size of the shield? Ive been looking at the 2.0 compact, but now I wondering if the 3.6 would be closer to the size of my shield.


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How does this compare to the size of the shield?
Shield of course is a single-stack while the 2.0 3.6" is a double-stack, so it's considerably thicker overall.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:02 PM
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I won't be getting rid of my G26 anytime soon, but I think the 2.0 3.6" is a well thought out, well equipped, highly competitive, attractive package.


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Old 06-11-2018, 03:32 PM
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You know, S&W corporate typically makes such model decisions based upon current marketing surveys and study groups on which they spend a lot of money.

In the past, the shorter grip/longer slide and longer grip/shorter slide combinations both had their proponents. If one perspective has been demonstrated to have more demand/appeal in recent months, then that's likely what's going to get the nod.

If it doesn't sell well, or the vagaries of the fickle commercial consumer market don't buy it in sufficient numbers in coming months, then you can bet another model will replace it.
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Where is the best price?

Best I have found is $450 for the 3.6” no safety.
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Where is the best price?

Best I have found is $450 for the 3.6 no safety.
From what I'm seeing retail, $450 is looking like a good price right now.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:25 AM
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I mean this sincerely, I'm not being facetious. Could someone explain why they would want the compact with the 3.6" bbl and the same size grip?

#1 a better balanced gun overall and #2 slide length does make a difference.
People are always talking about grip length when it comes to concealment that only depends how you carry it.

S&W did it right this year coming with that compact 3.6
I wear Riggs by Wrangler light weight but very strong with deep reinforced pockets. That size gun will fit perfect in my 7" inch rear pocket with a outside palm draw. And I draw from the weak side and practice shooting weak side as well.


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Interesting carry.
I'd wear holes right through if I sat on that gun that way.
I develop the "Wallet Outline" fairly quick in Levis if I don't alternate between both rear pockets.
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Old 06-12-2018, 04:44 PM
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In a holster I would imagine it would developed that outline, I personally have not carried a wallet in the rear for over 25 years now, that goes in the front pocket.

The gun would go into believe it or not the front pockets but are to deep and it would be hard to get out.
What's nice about the rear pockets is they are lined with corduroy. And that shirt covers 90% and no one is the wiser.

If you look closely you can see the outline of my suspenders underneath over a tee-shirt. I'm good to go to about 50 oz I'd say.

Oh yeah, we are talking a few years of experimentation and a whole lot of finding the right clothing. I got my carry down to almost a religion now, to each their own as they say.
(I use to carry a Governor back there even)

When I get into the car I slide what I got out real casual like watching the surroundings and in the side door cubby compartment. And when I'm ready to exit the same thing.

I'm one gun man, what I carry always serves multiple roles.
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why? simple. It will sell.

why are there 5 different glocks in 9mm? simple...they will sell.

the gun public is a fickle sort. we want unlimited choices. If Smith doesn't offer it, someone else will.
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Finally, after a 6-week downtime during two post-op recoveries, got to the range with the 3.6 here.

I'm sorry to disappoint those who don't want S&W to produce the pistol, but I still LIKE it.

Very easy shooter, very good ergonomics, no malfunctions out of the box (with no lube or prep) using six different loads, two 115s, two 124s, two 147s, and three different bullet profiles.

It is a keeper.
I have the M&P9 2.0, 2.0 Compact 4-inch, and 2.0 Compact 3.6-inch.
The 3.6 is the best concealer for me.
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I don't own a 3.6 compact but I will add my 2 cents. I have shot a lot with a Glock 26 and what I noticed over a Glock 19 is the slide and sights track faster with the 26 versus the 19. Its just a consequence of a lighter slide and shorter sight radius. I think the 3.6 inch compact should follow a similar behavior as the Glock 26 just with more bullets and some added leverage of the fuller grip.
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I acquired the controversial 3.6 inch M&P 2.0 compact. I only shot 50 rounds today due to time constraints but I did not have any issues.

The 2.0 grip texture creates a healthy amount of friction. Combine that with the fast cycling slide of the 3.6 and we have a flat and quick cycling pistol. I really liked the way this gun balances and behaves during recoil and recovery.
It was every bit as accurate as any Glock I own. In which, I am happy to see S&W did something about the accuracy issues seen with the 1.0.
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