|
|
|
06-05-2018, 11:12 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: So Cal (Near Edwards AFB)
Posts: 14,710
Likes: 2,926
Liked 17,102 Times in 6,271 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 45FMJoe
What if I told you the largest law enforcement agency in the United States of America issues a compact pistol?
|
It wouldn't change my opinion at all. Large agencies buy tools based on lots of criteria, but in the end, it's money that's the deciding factor. One company could have the most accurate, reliable gun ever made, but if the next on the list is almost as good and 15% less money, they're buying the second one every time.
Now, if you told me that part of their minimum salient characteristics was that the gun shoot a 1" group at 50 yards and they chose the smaller gun, that would make me take notice.
__________________
Freedom isn't free.
|
06-06-2018, 06:15 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SC
Posts: 113
Likes: 8
Liked 45 Times in 21 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rastoff
It wouldn't change my opinion at all. Large agencies buy tools based on lots of criteria, but in the end, it's money that's the deciding factor. One company could have the most accurate, reliable gun ever made, but if the next on the list is almost as good and 15% less money, they're buying the second one every time.
Now, if you told me that part of their minimum salient characteristics was that the gun shoot a 1" group at 50 yards and they chose the smaller gun, that would make me take notice.
|
Well, I will say this. When HK wins the contract over Glock, that pretty much ensures the whole "lowest bidder" thing is bs.
|
06-06-2018, 08:33 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,516
Likes: 860
Liked 4,572 Times in 1,516 Posts
|
|
Why a shorter barrel? Ask a fan of snub nosed revolvers!
Last edited by Telecaster; 06-07-2018 at 09:09 AM.
|
06-06-2018, 05:50 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Liked 679 Times in 313 Posts
|
|
For better concealment!
Denis
|
06-09-2018, 08:13 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
It's a lot closer in size to the G26 than I had thought. I like it.
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
Last edited by Scorpion520AZ; 06-09-2018 at 08:15 AM.
|
06-09-2018, 08:32 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by swsig
A better question is, "3.6" where?"
|
Currently in stock at Bud's
S&W M&P 2.0 9MM 3.6 15RD BLK NMS $478.00
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
06-09-2018, 08:42 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakebrake
to compete with the g19?
|
Size-wise it actually competes with the G26 very well (see post #55). It's only ever so slightly larger, yet holds 15 rounds in a magazine versus the G26s 10.
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
Last edited by Scorpion520AZ; 06-09-2018 at 08:52 AM.
|
06-09-2018, 09:47 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Georgia
Posts: 251
Likes: 731
Liked 420 Times in 153 Posts
|
|
I like it! Will pick one up in .40. Glad S&W is still offering .40 in new guns.
|
06-09-2018, 10:07 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 1 Post
|
|
How does this compare to the size of the shield? I’ve been looking at the 2.0 compact, but now I wondering if the 3.6 would be closer to the size of my shield.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
06-09-2018, 11:32 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by directljc
How does this compare to the size of the shield?
|
Shield of course is a single-stack while the 2.0 3.6" is a double-stack, so it's considerably thicker overall.
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
|
06-11-2018, 03:02 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
I won't be getting rid of my G26 anytime soon, but I think the 2.0 3.6" is a well thought out, well equipped, highly competitive, attractive package.
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
|
06-11-2018, 03:32 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: CA Central Coast
Posts: 4,648
Likes: 920
Liked 6,615 Times in 2,198 Posts
|
|
You know, S&W corporate typically makes such model decisions based upon current marketing surveys and study groups on which they spend a lot of money.
In the past, the shorter grip/longer slide and longer grip/shorter slide combinations both had their proponents. If one perspective has been demonstrated to have more demand/appeal in recent months, then that's likely what's going to get the nod.
If it doesn't sell well, or the vagaries of the fickle commercial consumer market don't buy it in sufficient numbers in coming months, then you can bet another model will replace it.
__________________
Ret LE Firearms inst & armorer
|
06-11-2018, 10:33 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 542
Likes: 4
Liked 339 Times in 181 Posts
|
|
Where is the best price?
Best I have found is $450 for the 3.6” no safety.
|
06-11-2018, 11:45 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sonoran Desert, USA
Posts: 577
Likes: 967
Liked 1,503 Times in 403 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyingfool
Where is the best price?
Best I have found is $450 for the 3.6” no safety.
|
From what I'm seeing retail, $450 is looking like a good price right now.
__________________
Ad Astra Per Aspera
|
06-12-2018, 01:50 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Liked 679 Times in 313 Posts
|
|
Interesting carry.
I'd wear holes right through if I sat on that gun that way.
I develop the "Wallet Outline" fairly quick in Levis if I don't alternate between both rear pockets.
Denis
|
06-12-2018, 05:39 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: philly burbs
Posts: 117
Likes: 47
Liked 72 Times in 42 Posts
|
|
why? simple. It will sell.
why are there 5 different glocks in 9mm? simple...they will sell.
the gun public is a fickle sort. we want unlimited choices. If Smith doesn't offer it, someone else will.
|
06-12-2018, 11:43 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Liked 679 Times in 313 Posts
|
|
Finally, after a 6-week downtime during two post-op recoveries, got to the range with the 3.6 here.
I'm sorry to disappoint those who don't want S&W to produce the pistol, but I still LIKE it.
Very easy shooter, very good ergonomics, no malfunctions out of the box (with no lube or prep) using six different loads, two 115s, two 124s, two 147s, and three different bullet profiles.
It is a keeper.
I have the M&P9 2.0, 2.0 Compact 4-inch, and 2.0 Compact 3.6-inch.
The 3.6 is the best concealer for me.
Denis
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
06-13-2018, 12:36 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 2
Liked 20 Times in 7 Posts
|
|
I don't own a 3.6 compact but I will add my 2 cents. I have shot a lot with a Glock 26 and what I noticed over a Glock 19 is the slide and sights track faster with the 26 versus the 19. Its just a consequence of a lighter slide and shorter sight radius. I think the 3.6 inch compact should follow a similar behavior as the Glock 26 just with more bullets and some added leverage of the fuller grip.
|
06-21-2018, 09:49 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 2
Liked 20 Times in 7 Posts
|
|
I acquired the controversial 3.6 inch M&P 2.0 compact. I only shot 50 rounds today due to time constraints but I did not have any issues.
The 2.0 grip texture creates a healthy amount of friction. Combine that with the fast cycling slide of the 3.6 and we have a flat and quick cycling pistol. I really liked the way this gun balances and behaves during recoil and recovery.
It was every bit as accurate as any Glock I own. In which, I am happy to see S&W did something about the accuracy issues seen with the 1.0.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
06-27-2018, 12:40 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 832
Likes: 276
Liked 335 Times in 182 Posts
|
|
Nice review. I know exactly what you mean about the tracking with the shorter barrel. No 3.6 versions available locally yet,but I'm on the list for one of the first ones. Congrats on a great pistol choice.
__________________
Blessed be the Lord,my Rock
|
07-03-2018, 02:11 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 661
Likes: 4
Liked 289 Times in 166 Posts
|
|
S&W always like guns with big butts (grips) an small tops. They clear the holster faster, sit better in a car or chair and hold more capacity.
Big Bottom Smith's Revolver's with Short Barrels with big cylinders rock.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|