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Old 05-30-2018, 10:39 PM
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The stock one broke after about 2000 rounds. Got it back from SW last month with a replaced firing pin. Today at the range I found it broken after about 200 rounds on the new one.

Man, do I feel lucky or what.
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:51 PM
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Even if dry practice was the culprit, which is very unlikely, it shouldn't have happened after only 200 shots. I wonder if there's something not machined correctly in your slide?
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I did about 10 dry-fire for one live round. But the FAQ said dry fire is Ok, and 200 live round is too low for dry-firing to cause any damage.
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Iíve seen people dry fire thousands. Thatís the only reason I asked. Curious what is causing the issue.


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Old 05-30-2018, 11:32 PM
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Even if dry practice was the culprit, which is very unlikely, it shouldn't have happened after only 200 shots. I wonder if there's something not machined correctly in your slide?
I did notice anything out of ordinary when cleaning the gun. The work-order I received only said the firing pin was replaced, did not mention anything else.
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Worth checking the striker channel (S&W should have cleaned it) and ensuring the hole through which the tip of the striker protrudes is clear and doesn’t have any burrs or rough edges. Also worth a look at fired brass and their primers- is the indent centered? Is the indent distinct, or is it smeared?

Should be able to dry fire, but worth using a snap cap to perhaps prolong the life of the striker.

I believe you can purchase striker assemblies from Numrich, Midway, Brownells and some smaller suppliers - might be faster and easier than sending the entire pistol back to Springfield, Mass.

Good luck with this... hoping it is a freakish coincidence.
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Worth checking the striker channel (S&W should have cleaned it) and ensuring the hole through which the tip of the striker protrudes is clear and doesnít have any burrs or rough edges. Also worth a look at fired brass and their primers- is the indent centered? Is the indent distinct, or is it smeared?

Should be able to dry fire, but worth using a snap cap to perhaps prolong the life of the striker.

I believe you can purchase striker assemblies from Numrich, Midway, Brownells and some smaller suppliers - might be faster and easier than sending the entire pistol back to Springfield, Mass.

Good luck with this... hoping it is a freakish coincidence.
I don't have fired brass with the new firing pin. I do remember the slide got stuck during dry firing a couple of days ago. I tried to rack the slide while holding the trigger to the back, but could only move the slide about a quarter inch back. I field-stripped the pistol but found nothing unusual. This happened twice, but eventually it went back to normal. I don't know if that's when it broke.

Maybe I should use snap cap, but I also heard it may damage the pistol because of the small aluminum sliver.
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Are you sure it's not a SIG P365?
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Curious, where/what section of the pin is breaking? The answers so far assume it's the tip that interacts with the primer that's breaking.
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Should be able to dry fire, but worth using a snap cap to perhaps prolong the life of the striker.
I'd say I'm a bit obsessive about being gentle with firearms, particularly ones that may be for CCW or for other defensive purposes. If in doubt about dry firing, I use snap caps and have been doing some of that with my M&P9 2.0.

Ruger generally says "go for it" with regard to dry firing. Just called S&W customer service a few minutes ago and they simply said S&W does not approve of dry firing.

Guess I'll restrict my dry firing to one of my Ruger SR9Cs. Don
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Guess I'll restrict my dry firing to one of my Ruger SR9Cs. Don


I have 3 of those myself. Seems like every time I find one for $250 I pick one up. For the money those are great guns.


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Just called S&W customer service a few minutes ago and they simply said S&W does not approve of dry firing.
Really? Is it just me or is this breaking news?

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Really? Is it just me or is this breaking news?

Well, it is a slow news day, so...
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I dry-fire practice with my self-defense handguns a lot. If a defensive handgun can't absorb dry-fire practice, or if the manufacturer cautions against dry-fire practice, I personally will move on and choose one that will.

The below Q&A is from the S&W web site.

Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?

A: YES, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.

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Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?

A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.


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Old 05-31-2018, 05:05 PM
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I dry-fire practice with my self-defense handguns a lot. If a defensive handgun can't absorb dry-fire practice, or if the manufacturer cautions against dry-fire practice, I personally will move on and choose one that will.

The below Q&A is from the S&W web site.

Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?

A: YES, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.

.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.

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A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.


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What can I tell you but that I did call this AM and the guy said no dry firing. Maybe they just haven't updated their FAQs? He said "It's your firearm do what you want, we don't recommend it." Don
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I think the SR9C is an excellent gun regardless of the price. Together, the two I have have 1400+ rds through them, only one issue, a bad Tula round with a good primer strike. Better triggers than a Glock and feel better in my hand. Don
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What can I tell you but that I did call this AM and the guy said no dry firing. Maybe they just haven't updated their FAQs? He said "It's your firearm do what you want, we don't recommend it." Don
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I'd say I'm a bit obsessive about being gentle with firearms, particularly ones that may be for CCW or for other defensive purposes.
I take a different stance. I'm not "gentle" with my firearms at all; I use them as intended. I don't abuse them, but I don't baby them either. If it can't stand up to regular, hard use, how can I trust it to defend my life?

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Just called S&W customer service a few minutes ago and they simply said S&W does not approve of dry firing.
The greatest flaw of customer service is people. It's possible that the guy you got on the phone mostly deals with revolvers or .22 guns. I don't know, but that's a weird response. They've been telling people for years that it's OK to dry fire the M&Ps. Without exaggeration, I have over 100,000 dry presses on my M&P45 and not a single issue. I tend to do about 50:1 dry presses to live rounds.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting your experience with customer service. It's just not what we usually hear. I will call them myself just to back it up.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm no doubting your experience with customer service. It's just not what we usually hear.
I guess the CS person hasn't read the FAQ's on their own wesbite :

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A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.


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I just got off the phone with S&W customer service.

I asked:
"I've received some conflicting information. I read on the website that it's OK to dry fire my M&P pistol, but someone else told me it's not OK. Which is correct?" I specifically avoided mentioning caliber or model.

His response:
"It's OK to dry fire the gun occasionally. Now, if you're out of work and going to spend 10 hours a day racking and dry firing the gun, I don't recommend doing that. Thousands and thousands of cycles will wear out the springs and wear on the gun more, but it's OK to dry fire it occasionally."

I followed with:
"I do work so I don't have that kind of time, but if I want to work on my trigger control while at home, is it OK to dry fire it say, 20 or 30 times?"

He responded:
"Yes, that won't hurt the gun at all."

At no time did he mention using snap caps.

While I was waiting on hold, I also sent a contact through the website with the same question. It will probably take a couple weeks for them to respond, but I expect to hear a similar response through email.

I think it would be a good experiment to have several other forum members call and see what responses they get.
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They actually responded to my email already. Here is what they said:

"We would like to thank you for your e-mail and contacting Smith & Wesson / Thompson Center.
They can be lightly dry fired. If you are going to dry practice fire for 100's or cycles at a time, then we would recommend the use of snap caps.
Thank You for choosing Smith & Wesson / Thompson Center products. Have a great day."
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"I take a different stance. I'm not "gentle" with my firearms at all; I use them as intended. I don't abuse them, but I don't baby them either. If it can't stand up to regular, hard use, how can I trust it to defend my life?"

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Thanks for the updates. Since Ruger says specifically that dry fire is fine with my SR9Cs as long as the mag is seated, would think that since both are striker fired, it wouldn't hurt the M&P.

Guess some misinterpreted my comment about being "gentle". An example of what I consider bad practice is to drop the slide off of the slide stop. Just release some of the pressure by pulling back in the slide and then depressing the slide stop.

I use them for what they're intended, if they're +P rated, I make sure it functions with a variety of that sort of ammo but practice is with generic but quality FMJ ammo. Don

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Curious, where/what section of the pin is breaking? The answers so far assume it's the tip that interacts with the primer that's breaking.
It was the tip. I can see the coarse but shiny surface of the broken firing pin.
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I'd say I'm a bit obsessive about being gentle with firearms, particularly ones that may be for CCW or for other defensive purposes. If in doubt about dry firing, I use snap caps and have been doing some of that with my M&P9 2.0.

Ruger generally says "go for it" with regard to dry firing. Just called S&W customer service a few minutes ago and they simply said S&W does not approve of dry firing.

Guess I'll restrict my dry firing to one of my Ruger SR9Cs. Don
I don't have a Ruger SR9C, but I would guess its trigger feels differently from the MP 9. If the carry pistol is a MP 9, dry-firing a SR9C wouldn't help improving trigger control, would it?
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Get rid of it. Once I lose faith in a gun, it is gone.
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I don't have a Ruger SR9C, but I would guess its trigger feels differently from the MP 9. If the carry pistol is a MP 9, dry-firing a SR9C wouldn't help improving trigger control, would it?


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I'd say I'm a bit obsessive about being gentle with firearms, particularly ones that may be for CCW or for other defensive purposes. If in doubt about dry firing, I use snap caps and have been doing some of that with my M&P9 2.0.

Ruger generally says "go for it" with regard to dry firing. Just called S&W customer service a few minutes ago and they simply said S&W does not approve of dry firing.

Guess I'll restrict my dry firing to one of my Ruger SR9Cs. Don
Hmm, interesting because that is contrary to what their FAQ's page says:

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It was the tip. I can see the coarse but shiny surface of the broken firing pin.
Sounds like a metallurgical issue, not a usage issue. You probably just got a bad striker. It happens.
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I don't have fired brass with the new firing pin. I do remember the slide got stuck during dry firing a couple of days ago. I tried to rack the slide while holding the trigger to the back, but could only move the slide about a quarter inch back. I field-stripped the pistol but found nothing unusual. This happened twice, but eventually it went back to normal. I don't know if that's when it broke.

Maybe I should use snap cap, but I also heard it may damage the pistol because of the small aluminum sliver.
I'm curious, why would you hold the trigger to the back when trying to rack the slide?
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I'm curious, why would you hold the trigger to the back when trying to rack the slide?
To work on finding the reset during dry practice.
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I'm curious, why would you hold the trigger to the back when trying to rack the slide?
With the magazine out, it lets you practice trigger reset drills. Press the trigger, hold it back, work the slide, let the trigger go to reset, press and hold, do it again . . .
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Sounds like a metallurgical issue, not a usage issue. You probably just got a bad striker. It happens.
I hope that's the case in stead of some other defects in the striker channel or other place in the slide.
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To get the reset.
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I got a use MP 9C first gen to fill the gap. I can assure you these two have very different triggers.
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Why would u send the entire gun back and s&w not just mail u another firing pin. Takes about 5 mins to install.

Ive heard of other guns pins breaking due to MIM metal. CZ p10c has an aftermarket bullet proof firing pin that fixes the issue.

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Why would u send the entire gun back and s&w not just mail u another firing pin. Takes about 5 mins to install.

Ive heard of other guns pins breaking due to MIM metal. CZ p10c has an aftermarket bullet proof firing pin that fixes the issue.

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Without specifying any specific reason, they told me that they can not mail out the M2.0 firing pin.
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#1 they don't want to be providing free spare parts to people with no proof the firearm itself caused the problem and if there's any issue with the firearm itself that caused the problem. If the issue is a defective part, they need that part also to ID source/production run.

#2, if there's any differences between the striker assembly between 1.0 and 2.0, they may not have stock for spares. This is doubtful.

#3. They don't want to tell a customer they don't trust them.
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