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Old 07-04-2018, 10:28 PM
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Is the Shield 2.0 trigger better than the 1.0? For those that have shot both pistols, what was your impression? If better, why? If not, why not?
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:47 AM
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I will answer from my experience...

I bought my Shield when they first came out. I got jacked on the price and when it arrived....I ended up with a 9-10 lbs trigger press. It was horrible.

I spent the extra coin on an Apex Duty kit and I have a very clean breaking 6 lbs trigger that I like.

At the dept when I work, I have to inspect personal firearms for duty carry. Alot of Shields come across my desk. While I think the 2.0 is ok, it does not match the clean break of my Apex duty trigger on my 1.0. I have not pressed a factory trigger on a Shield (1.0 or 2.0) better than the Apex duty on my 1.0.

For a short time period...I owned another 1.0 Shield (bought NIB) and the trigger was rough through its press. It was definitely a candidate for a Apex. A co-worker talked me into selling it to him and I used the money toward another 1911.

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:18 AM
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I have the 1.0. An armorer and firearms instructor actually worked on my factory trigger and I'm very satisfied with it. I don't know what poundage it is but it has little take up, crisp break and noticable, short reset.


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Old 07-05-2018, 08:36 AM
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But to answer the OP's question, yes, the 2.0 trigger is better out of the box. There is a little pre-travel, the 2.0 lacks the 1.0 grit and has a much cleaner break and reset. The trigger alone is worth the investment.
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I can only tell the difference between the two when dry firing and thinking about how they feel. At the range the difference is negligible. However, the grip texture is another story.
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:38 AM
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[QUOTE=Funflyer;140089984]I can only tell the difference between the two when dry firing and thinking about how they feel. At the range the difference is negligible. However, the grip texture is another story.

I have both, and these are my impressions also. True about the grip texture, too.
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:22 PM
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I recently purchased a trigger weight pull device and I checked the trigger pull on my Shields 1.0 and 2.0.
I find the 1.0's to average 6.5 lb and the 2.0's averages 5.25 lb. They both exhibit a long pre travel. I don't find it a tremendous difference dry firing or range firing and am happy with both.
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Old 07-22-2018, 01:53 PM
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If you can get the 1.0 at a good price and like the grip texture, go with that and buy the Apex kit. If you can get the 2.0 at a good price and like the texture, buy the 2.0 and put the Apex kit in it. I own the 1.0 with Apex kit, my grandfather a stock 2.0. I prefer mine. Just switching the slides between the two was a big improvement because of the striker block. But overall, the Apex kit should go in both or at least a trigger, for my taste. I wouldn't like the gun with stock trigger and Apex kit nor all stock. Probably wouldn't like it with Apex trigger but no kit, but it would be "better". All I'm saying is, either gun in it's stock form to me is "the same" minus grip. If you like to keep your gun bone stock, get whichever grip you like and polish/improve the stock parts on your own to improve that trigger. Everything else is fine.
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:59 PM
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go with that and buy the Apex kit.
Do you mean the full blown $165 Apex trigger kit or the trigger only? I have read some reviews that indicate the trigger change alone accounts for most of the improvement. I am interested in your opinion as I don't know who to believe in the Youtube videos.

I have the Shield 9 v1 in stock condition, one year old now and I am a moderately new shooter very open to suggestions.

I am interested in the various "upgrades," trigger, sights, grip, mag extensions but I feel for the same money I should invest the same money in ammo and instructions and learn how to shoot properly.

I still don't even know how to hold the dang thing (left hand)!
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:33 AM
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Yes, but it can be had for a bit cheaper than that. The trigger alone would alleviate the hinge design which I dislike, but I believe the striker block (the little silver button on the bottom of the slide) makes a difference in how smooth it is. This is what I noted when I switched slides on the two shields. The sear helps with the length of pull and where it breaks which was also a nice improvement. Overall, the whole kit makes the trigger system tons better and it's what I compare other triggers to. It's like a knife, you're good with the Gerber until you try a Chris Reeve, strider or even an upper class Spyderco. Then you realize what you've been missing.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:51 PM
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I have the Shield 1 and have tried the V2. I like the V1 trigger better. For how I tend to carry that type of gun the V2 trigger is too light for my tastes.

The V1 trigger shoots just fine. I haven't actually checked the pull weight but I don't find it excessive. These aren't intended to be target guns. I have guns for target shooting. They're bigger and don't get stuck in my belt or pocket or tossed under the seat or sit unholstered on the night stand.
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:04 AM
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If you have a chance to watch Hickok45's video comparing the Shield 1 to the Shield 2, it may help you with the trigger question.

I think the trigger issue is overblown. If you pick up a factory 1, a factory 2 and an Apex modified 1 or 2, dry-fire all three guns, you'll notice a difference but at the range or in a real life altercation, those differences will not be consequential.

I agree to spend your energies on practicing with the gun you have and improve your skills.

I'm not one who thinks a light crisp trigger on a concealed carry gun is necessarily a "good trigger". But I also carry an original Ruger LCP with that "horrible long trigger" and can easily place 7 rnds into a 6 inch target at 7 yrds with one hand. It may be that my take on triggers stems from my roots in revolver shooting.
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Old 08-02-2018, 07:16 AM
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I can only tell the difference between the two when dry firing and thinking about how they feel. At the range the difference is negligible. However, the grip texture is another story.


This has been my experience with my hunting rifles as well. At the range while sighting in because everything was always very methodical, I would notice how much take up my favorite deer gun had. When using it on live game, I couldn’t tell you what that trigger felt like and it never cost me a deer.
With my pistols, when I am the range focusing on my trigger pull and shooting, I notice the trigger. However, during self defense classes where my focus is on my targets and other things, I couldn’t care or tell you what my trigger feels like.



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Old 08-02-2018, 09:21 AM
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I had a chance to buy a 1.0 9mm Shield, but didn't like it at all. The way it felt in my hand, and the gritty trigger. I passed on it! Liked my Taurus PT709 Slim much better.

I tried a 2.0 9mm Shield a while back, and really liked it a lot. Trigger was much smoother and broke lots better, and the grip is like glue - bought one with an integrated laser. l like it a LOT!

Still keeping the Taurus, though it will spend a lot more time locked up!
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:02 AM
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I just purchased a M P 2.0 9C at a local gun store 4 weeks ago, and left with it for 369.00 and got a 50.00 rebate from S W. Took 3 weeks to receive the 50.00 dollar rebate. Best price I have found locally.

It is my second 9C. The first one cost me 469.00. I keep them 100% stock. I like to have more than 1 carry gun so I have something to fall back on that I am already familiar with. I am carrying it along with a Taurus Mdl 617 7 shot 357 revolver as a bug.

The gun store had a lot of them for sale.

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