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Old 08-01-2018, 04:58 PM
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How does the Sig P365 compare in accuracy to the Sig P320? Because I have the SC P320 and I don't have anything that compares to it in the striker fired world. I wish they would have made the barrel a little longer on the P365. They could have done so easily.
I have a fullsize P320 with an Apex trigger and the accuracy is pretty comparable at 7-10 yards between them. At 20-25 yards the fullsize is easier to keep on target. That said I like the trigger on the p365 just a hair more because it's lighter and smoother.
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Old 08-01-2018, 07:15 PM
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At $599 the P365 is over double what I paid for my Shield. That gun would have to jump off the table and clean itself before I would even consider it. Even at twice the price, something about the 365 looks cheap to me. And I don't mean the cheap internals from India.
Yep, they're jacking it up cause it's hard to find. Kind of like Apple does with every new Iphone. Did the same thing with the P-320. Another reason to wait. Today I got an email from Brownells for a SC Sig P-320 (contrast sights of course) for $399. Always pays to be patient.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:57 PM
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Iím at 1500 flawless rounds through the 365. Size wise it canít be beat. Of course some people are more comfortable with fuller size guns.
MAC on youtube bought 3 p365's himself and every single one has had issues that affect reliability. Same all over the place.

The g2c stainless model will work more than just fine although I don't know how well it will hold up to sweat. My shield and hk usp 40c both do okay with sweat, the roll pins rust on both but nothing else...
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:02 PM
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I did not know Mac's 3rd P365 also had issues, which is very sad since as he said the 3rd p365 was recently made and has all the latest updates but even it has the trigger spring scraping mags.

Hopefully that vid will be on u-tube soon?
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Old 08-04-2018, 10:24 PM
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MAC on youtube bought 3 p365's himself and every single one has had issues that affect reliability. Same all over the place.



The g2c stainless model will work more than just fine although I don't know how well it will hold up to sweat. My shield and hk usp 40c both do okay with sweat, the roll pins rust on both but nothing else...


I know about MACs issues but I have 4 other friends with 365s and no issues. I love my Shield and G26, but there is nothing close to the size and round count. Sig just needs to tweak some things and get a little more quality control and they will be fine.


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Old 08-04-2018, 11:42 PM
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I was able to put a some rounds through a 365 this week and found it too small for my hands along with a G43.

The Shield fits my hands much better and I am more accurate with it. I will be getting a Shield for carry along with my 640.
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Old 08-05-2018, 01:24 PM
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So I finally got to see the P365 in person today. Daaaaaaamn That thing is sweet. I can't believe you can do 12 rounds in that thing. I can wait another year easily. Hopefully more ranges will have it to rent by then.

However my question to those that have a shield 9mm and a P365 is, is the P365 a softer shooter, about the same or snappier then the Shield?
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:13 PM
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I've been shooting my Ruger SR9Cs for years, zero failures, better triggers than Glocks IMO.

After recent tries with a Beretta Brigadier and a big CZ (not CCW guns, I fully recognize) which were reliable but guns I had no love for, I've gotten rather turned off about trying new semi autos.

In the hand the 365 doesn't seem all that much smaller than my Rugers, if I can conceal the 365, I can conceal the Ruger. So that and the horror stories of primers being slashed, I'm not buying one.



Since I'm on a S&W forum, I do have a few months old M&P9 2.0 with the 5" barrel and I really like it. And yeah, a bit contradictory with paragraph #2. Don
I love the looks of my Ruger SR9C, and it is a dream to shoot, probably because it's so heavy! The only problem is that is a beast to carry IWB, very uncomfortable, and heavy! I ain't selling it though, it's a keeper.

The M&P compacts (Shield or 9c's) are more comfortable to carry, lighter, and shoot just about as well - and are nice looking to boot!

If I had to choose, I would probably keep the M&Ps, but it would really be a tough decision.

What gets carried the most by me is my little Taurus PT738 as a BUG, Taurus PT111G2 because it is so comfortable to carry. Then the Smiths (9c and Shield) and lastly the Ruger 9C. I almost always have a BUG.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:23 PM
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:45 PM
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At $599 the P365 is over double what I paid for my Shield. That gun would have to jump off the table and clean itself before I would even consider it. Even at twice the price, something about the 365 looks cheap to me. And I don't mean the cheap internals from India.
As I recall, initial production Shields were being sold at a price pretty close to MRSP until the frenzy was over. Keep in mind that the P365 comes standard with tritium sights and definitely has a better trigger than the stock Shields.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:28 PM
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As I recall, initial production Shields were being sold at a price pretty close to MRSP until the frenzy was over. Keep in mind that the P365 comes standard with tritium sights and definitely has a better trigger than the stock Shields.


I paid over MSRP in August 2012 for my Shield and couldnít find another within literally 100 miles, despite launching in April. And Iíd pay it over again if I had to. Both of my P365ís were $450 out of pocket each at Cabelaís by buying discounted gift cards.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:33 PM
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From all I hear Sig claims that all P365's made after July 18 are now 100% fixed, but heard that before.

Did watch a vid of an August made model and the dude had the follower stick in the slot cut out for the mag release and he had a rough time loading more then 5 rds. in that mag!
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:55 PM
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Yep, they're jacking it up cause it's hard to find. Kind of like Apple does with every new Iphone. Did the same thing with the P-320. Another reason to wait. Today I got an email from Brownells for a SC Sig P-320 (contrast sights of course) for $399. Always pays to be patient.
They are gen 1 with the upgrade trigger ( probably distributor returns )
The slide stop is gen 1 also....
They are ok but not brand new production....I bought one

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Brownells refused to publish my review that stated this

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Old 09-03-2018, 10:46 PM
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So I finally got to see the P365 in person today. Daaaaaaamn That thing is sweet. I can't believe you can do 12 rounds in that thing. I can wait another year easily. Hopefully more ranges will have it to rent by then.

However my question to those that have a shield 9mm and a P365 is, is the P365 a softer shooter, about the same or snappier then the Shield?


Both are easy shooters to me. The p365 is my best shooter for a small gun. Itís sometimes just love putting rounds through


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Old 09-11-2018, 04:25 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. Sig makes great guns but always seems to have Quality control issues when they push an item too quickly to the market, like the P320 triggers and the 'voluntary upgrade' and the striker pin on the P365. My current stable of M&p's (and some non M&P's) have worked just fine for me up until now and at the end of the day, a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.
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Different strokes for different folks. Sig makes great guns but always seems to have Quality control issues when they push an item too quickly to the market, like the P320 triggers and the 'voluntary upgrade' and the striker pin on the P365. My current stable of M&p's (and some non M&P's) have worked just fine for me up until now and at the end of the day, a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.
I have both. Nothing wrong with my Shield 1.0. I have a beautiful Wright's holster, 5 magazines, and many range trips with this gun under my belt. My wife and I just shoot the 365 better. We've had zero problems and it is now my carry weapon. We still shoot the Shield and have no plans to sell it. If money is an issue, go for a used Shield. It's a great value.

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I have conceal carried a few different guns over the years. Ruger SR40c (1 year), Shield 40 (1 1/2 years), Walther PPS M2 (1 year), PC Shirld 45 (2 years). Now I have been carrying a P365 since mid April. I have put over 10,200 rounds of various brands and grains through it with ZERO problems. It is such fun to shoot. Hence the round count. It's even more fun since I went green. The Lima365 green laser. Love it.

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Old 10-13-2018, 01:16 PM
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Itís a lot bigger then the 365.


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Surprisingly, not that much bigger, and it's melted edges make it feel and fit smaller! On top of that, it is amazingly comfortable to carry IWB!
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The Shield is a great gun, no question. The 365 has a major advantage with the 12+1 magazine. I donít think any gun of itís size is so capable, but I could be wrong, and it fits in my pocket bone stock.
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I have many carry pistols, and had for a short time the P365. Although the one I owned shot flawlessly for 500 rounds, the weapon just never ergonomically fit my hand right, only possibly with the 12 round mag.

The lingering reliability problems with this pistol (Youtube MAC Channel, purchased 3 separate P365s each one seriously flawed), and this not honestly being publicly addressed by Sig forced me to sell it.

My P365 with a born date of 28 June 2018 still evidenced severe striker drag, where my Glock 42 didn’t, sort of dispelling the "all subcompacts have striker drag" meme used to defend the P365.

Call me paranoid, and despite the others glowing anecdotal reports aside, I can't trust my life on what maybe a ticking time bomb.

Current carry collection



My P365 with 12 round mag




P365 striker drag, next to my Glock 42 showing NO striker drag, This dispels the “all subcompacts have striker drag” meme.




I just test fired a S&W Shield for the first time yesterday, the original model (I have dry fired the 2.0 model at a LGS) and was surprised how nice this pistol is, fits better in my hand with the 8+1 mag then any other Subcompact I have shot, Glock 43, PPS M2 with 7 round Mags, and the P365.

The Shield to me had less recoil and was even more accurate then all of the above. I'm picking one up tomorrow. Now which one? Laser, Tritium sights, or the PC with the Hi Rez???

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Get the PC. I have the PC 45. It shoots/handles better than my Shield 40 or the 9 I rented at the range.

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Get the PC. I have the PC 45. It shoots/handles better than my Shield 40 or the 9 I rented at the range.

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Do you have the Hi-Rez sights, and how are they holding up?

Also, does the porting really help out, and how dirty does it get the weapon?
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