Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-09-2018, 02:40 PM
skroll116 skroll116 is offline
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: MA
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Apex flat trigger install not reversible?

I was installing an Apex trigger in my M&P 9 2.0 and had issues with the getting the pin on the trigger itself to engage. Tried the vice method which is recommended and felt like I was going to break something so I stopped. Pulled the trigger bar back out and tried the pin in the vice again and after really forcing it, the pin started to move. But, it moved enough where I was unable to install the trigger bar and was unable to knock it back out using a punch. That thing is really in there.

I reached out to Apex and they said it's all normal. That they recommend using the vice because it is so tight and once installed you are not able to remove it again. Asked me to send them the trigger and trigger bar and they would examine the trigger to make sure there is no damage and would then install the trigger bar for me.

So I am going to send it all to them, but wondering if anyone else had had issues like this? I bought the full kit thinking it would give me the most options, but it now sounds like I will have to purchase a new trigger bar IF I ever wanted to move away from the flat trigger.

Thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-2018, 02:44 PM
seebee62 seebee62 is online now
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 64
Likes: 46
Liked 43 Times in 21 Posts
Default

Interesting. Iíve been thinking about installing a Apex in my 2.0. So once you go flat you canít go back?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-2018, 03:00 PM
Kahless's Avatar
Kahless Kahless is offline
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 30
Likes: 3
Liked 13 Times in 10 Posts
Default

I had the same issue. Ended up beating it in. Doubt that pin will come out without damaging the shoe.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2018, 08:15 PM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 5,034
Likes: 1,555
Liked 4,767 Times in 1,991 Posts
Default

I've pushed the pin in with a vice and removed it with a punch multiple times (at least 3). Not sure what I did different. My vice does have flat faces on it (and it's a big machinist vice).
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2018, 08:56 PM
NewToGuns17 NewToGuns17 is online now
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 446
Likes: 15
Liked 140 Times in 95 Posts
Default

I don't know about the 2.0 specifically, but in my 1.0 shield and my 2.0 full size I smacked it in with a by nylon hammer on a block of wood, didn't have to pound on it either. I actually pushed it back out with a hammer and punch once in the shield.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-10-2018, 10:27 AM
skroll116 skroll116 is offline
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: MA
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I think there is just an issue with this pin. I was able to get it in using the vise, but can't get it out to put the trigger bar on. I was banging on it pretty good last night for one final try. Bent a non-marring punch and put some good nicks in the pin itself. It's going back.

Thanks everyone.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-11-2018, 08:26 AM
bad2006z71 bad2006z71 is offline
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 258
Likes: 2
Liked 72 Times in 42 Posts
Default

They said that to me as well, however I was able to back the pin out just enough to get the trigger bar out using a punch, didn't really take much.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 07-12-2018, 10:46 AM
skroll116 skroll116 is offline
Member
Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible? Apex flat trigger install not reversible?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: MA
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Swing by a local gun shop to see if they might be able to help before shipping it all off. They saw me pull out the trigger and before I could say anything said, "pin not moving for you?" Apparently they have had 4-5 flat triggers have the same issue and on a couple of them tried using a roofing hammer without any luck. I did the same by the way which is how I bent a punch.

So off to Apex it will go.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
APEX Flat Faced Trigger vs. Standard Bow APEX Trigger FSS Kit??? falconman515 Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 18 05-14-2018 05:07 PM
What trigger pull weight are you getting on your APEX Flat Faced FSS Trigger install? falconman515 Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 41 05-05-2017 07:58 PM
Installing APEX Flat Faced FSS Trigger on M&P9 CORE, Do I need the APEX RAM as well? falconman515 Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 8 01-05-2016 03:49 AM
Trigger pre-travel in Shield after Apex trigger install MKE.guns Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 4 03-13-2015 03:22 PM
Need immediate APEX trigger install help!! zgoettsc Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 18 03-03-2014 10:11 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:29 PM.


© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2018
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)