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Old 07-12-2018, 11:30 AM
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Hi everyone. I just got my Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 Shield 9mm, and following the instructions, and moving the pushing the sear deactivation lever down, I CANNOT get the Takedown lever to move down.
I had to pull the slide back, use the slide lock, and move the takedown lever to move with a flat blade screwdriver. I know I should not have to do this, I even put a drop of oil, and slide it up and down, and with it locked I can do it. But try and move the slide back and slightly forward, I would have to have bionic fingers to move it.
So, I.E. I can't disasemble it to clean and lube it.
Anyone have this problem, and figure it out?
I did a youtube search, and all the videos are 1-5 years old and none show this for the 2.0

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Old 07-12-2018, 11:31 AM
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Also, not, I cannot put the yellow sear deactivation lever back up to it's normal position.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:00 PM
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Don, I got a 2.0 Shield (40) two weeks ago. I've put about 300 rds through it. To field strip I remove the mag & check chamber, lock the slide back, rotate the takedown lever down (clockwise), release slide lock and pull the trigger. The slide will move forward enough to pull it off.

I don't use the "deactivation" lever - it is just a pain. If you do activate it inserting a magazine will deactivate it.

To reassemble, I just put the slide on and lock it back then rotate the level (counterclockwise) back up and release the slide lock.

The takedown lever was a little stiff - not too bad.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Turning the takedown lever compresses the recoil spring. On new guns, these springs are mad stiff! I had the same issue with my Shield 1.0 when new and several other pistols. I had a hard time even racking the slide to get it to slide lock.

It will ease up with use. I suggest rather than a screwdriver, to wear a glove or pad the takedown with a rag or paper towel. Make it respect your authoritah!!

The sear deactivation lever should return when you insert a mag. Once you get the slide off, try inserting an empty mag.
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Thanks.
I found out the the instructions route was useless. I was easily able to remove the action by using the original S&W way. Pull the action back. Turn the lever down. Slide the action forward, and pull the trigger. Worked perfectly without screwing around with that tiny (easily bendable or breakable yellow rod inside the pistol.
What a stupid design.
during cleaning, I put a drop of oil inside and outside (behind) the takedown lever. Moves like butter now. Wow, I used every weapon up to the TOW missile launcher, M2 Ma Deuce, and Grenade launchers, etc. I NEVER had so much trouble stopping a weapon.
I could do all those in the dark, without any issues!

Thank you both for the words of wisdom, and experience!
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:28 PM
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Just so it's clear, I tried a pad (but not a glove) when trying to turn the take down lever. Until I got it apart, and lubed it, it was insane. And when I used the screwdriver, I was careful, and had one of the fingers of those disposable gloves you use when you dye your hair around the tip if the screw driver so I did not scratch anything. I am OCD with my weapons.
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As in so many things today, companies try to design things so as to protect their products (and themselves) from their consumers' misuse, and thus reduce their liability. This sear deactivation lever is a prime example of that. I've read a number of comments from people who say they are afraid to pull the trigger to release the slide...I guess these same people are also afraid to fry fire their guns too.

I always use the trigger to release the slide...I just make sure the gun is unloaded first, which is priority one on any gun I am working on. I also unplug my toaster before I work on it, too...especially when I'm in the bathtub. I'm surprised toaster manufacturers haven't had to print that warning in big letters on the sides of toasters!
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I was careful, and had one of the fingers of those disposable gloves you use when you dye your hair...
I'm not sure I'd admit that...
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As in so many things today, companies try to design things so as to protect their products (and themselves) from their consumers' misuse, and thus reduce their liability. This sear deactivation lever is a prime example of that. I've read a number of comments from people who say they are afraid to pull the trigger to release the slide...I guess these same people are also afraid to fry fire their guns too.

I always use the trigger to release the slide...I just make sure the gun is unloaded first, which is priority one on any gun I am working on. I also unplug my toaster before I work on it, too...especially when I'm in the bathtub. I'm surprised toaster manufacturers haven't had to print that warning in big letters on the sides of toasters!
Yeah, so to compensate they put the warning on the slide that it will fire without a mag.

Due to CA requirements at the time, my FS and Compact (v 1.0) have mag safeties. It's just faster and easier to flip the lever, than manipulate an empty mag. At least, it doesn't have the warning.
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