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Old 12-28-2019, 11:56 PM
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I purchased a Shield 9EZ today and when getting it home the first thing i did was sit down to get accustomed to it. When attempting to disassemble it I locked the slide back, checked the chamber and removed the mag, rotated the take down lever, release the slide, pulled the trigger.

This is where I messed up. The slide moved forward 1/8 inch and locked. The slide wont go forward or back it this point.

After reading the instructions (crazy right) I think I was holding onto the grip safety during this process.

When I try to move the slide I can see the grip lock move slightly as the slide moves slightly but nothing moves more than slightly.

I cant find anything that shows how to release the slide in this case so does anyone have any information on this?

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Old 12-29-2019, 12:35 PM
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Don't pull the trigger, try and pull the slide back to cock the gun then try it again.
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Old 12-29-2019, 02:54 PM
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Don't pull the trigger, try and pull the slide back to cock the gun then try it again.
The OP has tried every thing he knows? he's thinking he's got the grip safety mechanism bound up blocking the slide, and locking it up?

Any more info OP, how about some pictures, I'm not familiar with the mechanics of the EZ??
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Old 12-29-2019, 03:37 PM
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Default Early Shields did something similar.

The recoil spring liked to jump beyond where they were seated against barrel lug. Mine did it, the factory fixed it so that wouldn't happen. But I think the slide came forward more and left the guide rod sticking out an inch or so.
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Old 12-29-2019, 03:49 PM
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If the slide only moved 1/8" then the grip safety is not holding it, it would have to moved more like an inch. He said he pulled the trigger, well on mine the trigger will not fall with the slide in that position, it has to be almost all the way off before the trigger will fall. Something else has to be wrong.
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Here is a picture of the slide forward and the grip lock in. The slide will not move either way.
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Manual says thumb safety should be on before disassembly. Will the thumb safety go on with hammer in fired position? P31 of manual shows hammer in fired position: I suspect this will block you from moving slide forward off of frame. This means only direction for slide to go is backwards. Thumb safety on, grip safety disengaged.....hand off of grip safety, jiggle slide backwards. Do you get any movement?

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He is correct, if the hammer is in the fired position the slide will not come off until it is cocked. Did you hear the hammer fall when you pulled the trigger. It should have not fallen if everything was correct. Mine dd not have the safety so I can not try to get your results. Safety of not it should not have been able to fire.
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Success at last!!
With enough fidgeting and wiggling i got the grip safety to disengage and the slide to move correctly.

Lesson learned: KEEP YOUR HAND OFF THE GRIP SAFETY WHEN DISASSEMBLING!!

Thanks everyone for their help.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:35 PM
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... Lesson learned: KEEP YOUR HAND OFF THE GRIP SAFETY WHEN DISASSEMBLING!! ...
... and read the manual prior to operating your firearm.

Smith & Wesson shouldn't design a firearm that "locks up" just because you have a safety engaged ... bad design S&W ! ! !
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... and read the manual prior to operating your firearm.

Smith & Wesson shouldn't design a firearm that "locks up" just because you have a safety engaged ... bad design S&W ! ! !

While it would be nice to live in a perfect "EZ" world, manufacturing shouldn't be asked to "Idiot proof" everything because it would only help people become better Idiots. No offense intended to anyone in this thread.
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Interestingly, you can find yourself in the same predicament on any 1911 that uses the Swartz type firing pin safety that is activated by the grip safety. Don't ask how I found that out.
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I donít think the pulling of the tigger is needed with the EZ to remove the slide.


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If it works the same as a 380EZ then you definitely DON'T want to pull the trigger. It's an internal hammer gun, not striker fired.
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Success at last!!
With enough fidgeting and wiggling i got the grip safety to disengage and the slide to move correctly.

Lesson learned: KEEP YOUR HAND OFF THE GRIP SAFETY WHEN DISASSEMBLING!!

Thanks everyone for their help.
I have this exact same problem. The grip safety is engaged. What was the trick to fix this issue?
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Read the owners manual. Gun,chainsaw,lawnmower,computer etc.. Just Sayin.
It took my son 30 years to figure that one out.
I’ve had a few OH S—T ! moments in my life also as I’m sure most of us have.
Glad you got your issue resolved!

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I have this exact same problem. The grip safety is engaged. What was the trick to fix this issue?
I too have the same issue. Any assistance from the forum would be greatly appreciated.
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The manual warns against pulling the trigger when trying to take the EZ 9 apart.

When reassembling it you are not supposed to depress the grip safety.

Glad you got it back together. Next time RTFM first.
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Thanks for reminding us to read the manual again...
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If your slide got stuck, you have to give it a hard smack to dislodge the slide from the grip safety. Which is usually the last thing I want to be doing with any firearm. But, that's what my guy at the gun shop did to get it loose when showing me a demo model.

The same thing will happen when putting the slide back ON, if you depress the grip safety. Not just taking it off.

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If your slide got stuck, you have to give it a hard smack to dislodge the slide from the grip safety. Which is usually the last thing I want to be doing with any firearm. But, that's what my guy at the gun shop did to get it loose when showing me a demo model.

The same thing will happen when putting the slide back ON, if you depress the grip safety. Not just taking it off.
A customer just brought his into my shop. He bought the pistol (EZ 2.0 9mm, no thumb safety) new from me last week. He has an original EZ-380 so he was familiar with the platform. During reassembly it locked up on him. When he brought it to me his slide was still forward about 1/8", the slide lock swung down, and the slide would just wiggle front to back about 1/16" or less. While wiggling the slide I saw the grip safety moving a little too. He thought he remembered he had pulled the trigger while the gun was apart. Don't do that.

He had done some internet searching before he came in and directed me to this forum. I'm glad he did. Since this was a brand new gun he didn't want to do something to tear it up. I can understand that. I diagnosed and got his gun right again and he was away in about 2 minutes. After he left I signed up with the forum and replied to this thread to give a little more information to anyone else that may run across this with their EZ's in the future.

I can confirm this "solution". Take a small piece of wood or something else that won't scratch the gun, and give the back of the slide a couple of raps, in parallel direction with the barrel. I used a 32oz. ball peen hammer handle. I gripped the hammer head and went in-line with the slide. More of a push than a swing. You don't have to SMACK it, just firm little love taps. Start light, then get progressively more firm until the slide moves forward. If it just ain't happening don't wail on it. There may be a different problem then.

From what I observed, tapping the back of the slide jars the grip safety bar linkage enough to get the slide to jump past it. Then you can remove the slide, put it back on, pull the slide back and lock it open, swing the slide lock bar back into place, and you're done.

Yes, avoid the grip safety during disassembly and reassembly. After I got his gun running again I could replicate the problem by pressing the grip safety during reassembly. Giving a couple more little taps/pushes and it was free again. I did this to show him what to avoid, and what to do if/when it happens again. S&W does have some room for improvement with the grip safety linkage geometry that can resolve this issue. Maybe in the 3.0 EZ. Even though it doesn't hurt anything you shouldn't have to fight a new pistol apart or have it lock up on you this easily during reassembly. I'll pass this info along to S&W to at least make them aware. These are excellent pistols, even with this one annoying little flaw.
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I'll pass this info along to S&W to at least make them aware. These are excellent pistols, even with this one annoying little flaw.

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I did the slight tap on the safety which freed my slide up, now the problem is I can't get the slide to go back far enough to lock it, what do you suggest?
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I got my grip safety tapped to get my slide unlocked but note my slide doesn't go back far enough to lock, it's hitting something. Any suggestions?
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Smith & Wesson shouldn't design a firearm that "locks up" just because you have a safety engaged ... bad design S&W ! ! !
This isnít a bad design. They made the firearm to work as an EZ. Iím sure this required some out of the box thinking. Explain how a failure to read and understand the manual makes this firearm bad.
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Check the spring. It has to be perfectly aligned. Read. The. Manual.
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I have had the 9mm EZ for about 3 weeks. Ween I first got it I skimmed the manual. Later when I was re-assembling after the initial clean, I could not get the slide to go back. Freaking out, I re-read the manual and yes, it was the misaligned spring.

Just today, after the 2nd range visit, I brought it home and was going to clean it and apparently I did something and produced the exact same problem, 1.8in rack stuck. I came here (after a long absence) and fixed the problem by using the butt of my hand to give it a few good whacks.

WHEW! I thought it was gonna be a return to shipper problem.

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Glad you got your issue resolved!

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I am glad the OP got his problem fixed. Could have happened to me. I had a few of those Oh S--t moments but the worse one was when my M1 Garand went full auto on me at the 300 yard line during one of my High Power Service Rifle competitions. Fortunately, I had a very tight sling and a firm prone position. The Colonel kicked me and my $@@#%^*#( his words, not mine) rifle off the range. I showed up with an M1A the next time and he let me shoot. I just got that Garand fixed but I am hesitant to shoot it. I wonder why...
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The recoil spring assembly must be seated in the barrel slot with the long sides perfectly perpendicular to the frame/barrel. If you have the recoil assembly tilted to the side, you could get away with getting it back together, but when it comes time to take it apart, it won't be fun because it will walk a little more to the side as the gun is fired over and over.
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I'm a S&W M&P 2.0 5" owner. I recently purchased a S&W M&P EZ Shield 9 Performance Center for my wife. When familiarizing myself with the gun, I made the same mistake that apparently many others did... not reading the owners manual first. SO, the slide got stuck and I went searching for answers how to fix it. After watching numerous videos which state "do not depress the grip safety" without providing a solution for how to fix it if you do make that mistake... I finally came upon this string. THANK YOU!
I was able to finally able to get it "unstuck" by dropping it "gently" on my smooth concrete basement floor. Kinda a last resort but it worked.
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The rubber mallet tap (sternly) on the rear of the slide worked perfectly. I knew not to engage the grip safety on disassembly/assembly but did it anyway Thanks so much for your help!
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If your slide got stuck, you have to give it a hard smack to dislodge the slide from the grip safety. Which is usually the last thing I want to be doing with any firearm. But, that's what my guy at the gun shop did to get it loose when showing me a demo model.

The same thing will happen when putting the slide back ON, if you depress the grip safety. Not just taking it off.

Save my life lol, after a few different posts this was the one that solved my issue. Two good smacks to the upper part of the grip and she popped lose.
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Unfortunately I created the same problem by not first reading the manual. Most of us are so used to taking down M&P semi autos that we think the EZ will be similar. But to aggravate the mistake of miss-aligning the spring assembly I also pulled the trigger. This raises the internal hammer and so the slide could not be removed and the hammer could not be cocked with the miss-aligned spring assembly. Even a blow on the slide was not going to fix this problem.

To correct this I held the slide back so the spring assembly rod came out of the front of the slide and used a small needle nose pliers to rotate the rod until it was in alignment. Then the slide could be completely racked and would be able to be slid off of the frame. You will need to grab the rod about 1/4 inch from the tip as the tip will rotate freely from the rod. Easy fix for a complicated problem! Hope this helps to some of you to solves this problem.
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Thank you Idahoshooter007. I screwed up and didn't put the spring assembly rod in the right way. After over an hour looking online for a solution, I found your post. Thanks again.
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