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Old 03-09-2020, 10:19 PM
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Got one off an Internet auction a few months back. No box and just one mag. My wife and I shot it today for the first time. We had no feeding issues, stovepiping or ejection of live rounds described by others.

One problem was that it was all but impossible to seat a full mag on a closed slide, like when loading 8+1.

I can't say too much about accuracy. Neither my wife or I were good on the trigger today. I was putting them left or right and she was shooting large vertical strings. An off day and lack of practice can make for ugly targets. I finally got a couple of half decent groups with my last 10 rounds, tight left to right with some vertical stringing.

Oh, and the ammo used was Fiocchi 95gr FMJ.
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Seating of the mag on the EZ with 8 loaded and the slide forward definitely requires a firm push. It's at nearly full compression. Load 7 and it's a piece of cake. It's for that reason that my duty mags were always downloaded by one round.
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I had the same positive experience Saturday with my adult daughter.

We rented the filthy dirty range 380EZ with just one filthy mag and it ran perfectly. Shot PoA/PoI (for me, not her).

She’s coming from a .38 snubby she doesn’t particularly like or shoot well. She operated the EZ no problem. I offered her other rental guns and she replied no thanks. This one is just right.
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I can usually hold 3 inches at 25 yards (from a rest) with my PC 9 Shield with most ammo, but when I tried some Fiocchi 115 grain in it, it was like an 8 inch group. Looked like a shotgun pattern.
My full size likes it though, shoots the Fiocchi as well as anything else.
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Seating of the mag on the EZ with 8 loaded and the slide forward definitely requires a firm push. It's at nearly full compression. Load 7 and it's a piece of cake. It's for that reason that my duty mags were always downloaded by one round.
Later in the range session I found that the Remington R51 is in some ways worse. You can insert the magazine on a closed slide, but I defy most folk to rack it from there. Investigations showed that the follower is all but bottomed out once seven rounds are loaded, so there is little or no give in the stack. By contrast, the mags on my PPS M2 allow the stack to be pressed down about 75% of a round diameter when loaded to capacity. Different design philosophy, apparently.
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Seems as though all manufacturers are trying to save size in any way possible. Seating a fully loaded mag on a closed bolt is tight on most new guns. It has always been a little tight even on some older stuff (not all) perhaps even a bit tighter today.
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Seems as though all manufacturers are trying to save size in any way possible. Seating a fully loaded mag on a closed bolt is tight on most new guns. It has always been a little tight even on some older stuff (not all) perhaps even a bit tighter today.
Probably not so much on a new gun as a new magazine. It may loosen up with use. Most do.
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