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Old 03-18-2020, 01:53 AM
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Yeah my 380 MP EZ had the rear sights way off when I got it home and out of the box. Adjusting it is extremely hard because you loosen the screw and it's totally limp right now. Can't seem to loosen a little and tap it over. I want to make sure the sights are true and don't want to keep adjusting to my shooting if I'm not doing it well. I want the sights perfect and I'll work on my shooting technique to it not the other way around. Would a bore laser sighter be good to at least get it real close to true and if yes which one is a good one for my gun?
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Bolverk. Partner...slow down. Seems real odd that your sights are way off out of the box. What does "totally limp" mean? I take it you haven't shot the gun yet? Or have you?

OK. I've got the 9mm EZ so I don't know if the 380 EZ uses the same sight securing method. If it does, this is how I adjusted the windage on mine.

I fired...off a rest... a couple shots at 25 feet and noted the POI. Why 25 feet???? Cause thats what I had. You can CALCULATE the need adjustment by using the distance to target/sight radius/ etc, etc.... OR.....

My POI was a bit to the LEFT. I made a very small pencil mark on the rear sight TO the slide. I then loosend the sight securing screw and moved the sight slightly. I mean slightly as in .002 to .003". I fired another round...off a rest.... and checked the POI.

In my case I was centered up and GTG.

It doesn't take much rear sight movement to effect the POI so don't slide the rear sight all over the place....AND.... make a mark on the sight and frame so you have some idea where your from...and where your going to. AND shoot off a rest.IF your "totally Limp" rear sight has been moved all about simply center it on on the slide (eyeball it) and lock down the securing screw.

Then go shoot it. Adjust from the results.

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Old 03-19-2020, 01:16 PM
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The sights being off center out of the box is rather common. As mentioned above, shoot from a rest to determine point of impact (POI). That takes the human factor out of it. Then make just slight adjustments at a time. Just be patient and it will come together for you. Iíve had to make adjustments to several M&P pistols as Iíve acquired them.
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Guess the O.P must have figured it out.
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The sights being off center out of the box is rather common. As mentioned above, shoot from a rest to determine point of impact (POI). That takes the human factor out of it. Then make just slight adjustments at a time. Just be patient and it will come together for you. Iíve had to make adjustments to several M&P pistols as Iíve acquired them.
It's funny, but another forum member actively discourages benching a pistol and adjusting the sights. He states that it just masks problems with technique. I could buy into that if:-

1) Everybody's hands were the same size with the same level of dexterity.

2) All guns had identical grip frames.

Given that neither are true, I bench stuff to check if the sights are good and then work out how/if to adjust my technique. Some guns just don't work for our hands or have weird sight pictures.
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I adjust sights til it shoots where I want it to. If that changes I will adjust again.
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I bench stuff to check if the sights are good and then work out how/if to adjust my technique. Some guns just don't work for our hands or have weird sight pictures.
In the real world, it's really the only way to test accuracy.

Adjusting the sights on the on the newer Smith Autos in my collection is a work in progress. My 9's and .380's shoot just about anything and everything to the same POA/POI, but I did have to move the sights on all of them, a combination of front and rear adjustments so one end doesn't look odd. Even if they come home centered perfectly, that doesn't mean that they are right for my hand and grip, (they are not BTW). Probably everyone's reality.

I make a drift from 3/16" brass rod stock, flatten a section on one end, and finish the end square on my bench belt sander. Then I routed a couple 2X6 short sections using a trace and mini router to cut a 1/2" deep block to hold the gun on each side of the block, and glue a thin piece of leather into the routed area.

Then, off to the range with a light hammer and the punch. (Put a couple drops of penetrating oil on the sight groove to make things move a bit easier). One of the laser rounds would be better if you have spare cash in the wallet. But most shooters will need to tweak the sights a bit.
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